Xbox 360 Controller Incompatible with Xbox One

[Zeraki]

Is it true that this controller still doesn't have built in batteries? Meaning that you still have to shell out the extra money for a play and charge kit(that have always been broken out of the box for me) if you want to use them wirelessly? And is there going to be a wired variant of this controller?

I'm honestly interested in whether this controller will work on PC. I wouldn't mind trying it out for the improved D-pad alone. But if there isn't I wired variant, I'm not even going to bother. I'll just stick with my old 360 controller.

PS1 controllers didn't work on PS2, 2 to 3,

Actually, yes they did. In fact, I have a Dualshock 2 controller hooked up to my PS3 at the moment. Haven't tried it with a Dualshock 1 though, since I never owned a PSX.

 

[Ishigami]

That is okay with me. I never expected something else.
As for the guy who asked how big the new one is I call it now: Same size as 360 controller.

 

[Negatempest]

Anal about having to buy new controllers? How could we? Don't we all want to spend $40usd per controller again?

 

[FFP2]

I'd just like to point out that the Wii U is fully compatibile with all Wii controllers.

Sigh. It's truly sad that I've become a Nintendo fanboy.

Good job MS and Sony.

 

[SinisterGehe]

How can it look worse and even more uncomfortable to use.
Seriously whoever was the engineer of this whole fiasco (I guess there was few) and the industrial designer of this things deserves to be buried under the amount of painkillers people are going to have to take in order to use that.

Also Xunum has USB 3.0 slot - and last time I looked at my controller (just now) it has USB-plug.

Also I been going trough the info I been handed about it. I cant use Xprima in my apartment. My apartment is not LONG ENOUGH! Well if I install a screen in-to my closet and the play it diagonally from the kitchen it should work. And I need to move the fridge trough my wall and remove the table.

So what audience is this thing targeted at again????

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

Is it true that this controller still doesn't have built in batteries? Meaning that you still have to shell out the extra money for a play and charge kit(that have always been broken out of the box for me) if you want to use them wirelessly? And is there going to be a wired variant of this controller?

I'm honestly interested in whether this controller will work on PC. I wouldn't mind trying it out for the improved D-pad alone. But if there isn't I wired variant, I'm not even going to bother. I'll just stick with my old 360 controller.

PS1 controllers didn't work on PS2, 2 to 3,

Actually, yes they did. In fact, I have a Dualshock 2 controller hooked up to my PS3 at the moment. Haven't tried it with a Dualshock 1 though, since I never owned a PSX.

Adapter?

Well, to be fair, of the two hardcore gaming consoles, one of them doesn't need an online connection, allows used games without a fee, doesn't come with Kinect, and uses a media system to allow some old games to be played. One of them doesn't. I wouldn't call the first one a "clear" winner yet, but it's hard to say they're even right now.

Sony's controller did have a sensor bar thingy. They showed it at the conference. And I only recall them saying that games designed to work on Cel processors were not compatible with the new x86 direction of the PS4. From where I sit, these consoles are dead even.

Sony has the hardware to limit used games built in as well, remember? We don't know enough about either of them to make any grand claims. They both sound like social media focused online "Cloud" boxes from where I sit. Quite even and neither of them appealing.

So far I see no winners. Only us losing more and more of gaming to unwanted features and social media obsessed corporations who have no idea who their target audiences are. So super focused on casting the widest net that they don't realize they've made the gaps too large to hold any of the fish. (sorry for the fishing metaphor. I hate the outdoors)

They also bought the media system from Japan that allows game streaming of previous titles. May not be reverse compatibility, but it is something more than Microsoft is offering.

Sony's CEO has also stated multiple times that Sony and GameStop have a great working relationship, and they've never entertained plans of blocking used games. That is leagues ahead of Microsoft's attacks on the used games industry.

All I'm saying is that details are scarce and neither has impressed me. You've clearly already marked out a spot on your entertainment center for a PS4 already, so good for you. But I'm not so quick to walk that path. Sony has a lot longer way to go before I believe anything they say after this past gen where they tripped up so many times. Even if I conceded your point that they are ahead out of the gate, they had more ground to make up in my eyes. Still, dead even and no one is impressing me enough to start talking them up on a forum.

 

[Zeraki]

Adapter?

Yeah, there is an adapter that lets you connect the controller through the USB ports. I haven't used it much(a friend gave it to me), but it does work. I played a bit of Mega Man X4 with it and if I remember right MK9 when that first came out.

 

[Callate]

Oh, that's nice. Because everyone wants all their multi-player gaming to be done with people who aren't in the same room and/or have money burning holes in their pockets to get a new set of wireless controllers with their own rechargeable batteries.

The "it's because the technology is so much better" spin-doctoring is a cute touch, too.

I'm curious whether there will be a PC/Windows version like with the 360 wireless controller.

If not, that indicates what MS thinks of PC gaming.

I think there's already ample evidence of what Microsoft thinks of PC gaming. The elegant and much-beloved interface of Windows Live, the swift port of every version of Halo and Gears of War to the platform, their tireless ambassadorship towards making XBox Live titles available on the PC, not to mention world-class offerings like Shadowrun... [/heavy sarcasm]

 

[Terramax]

Whilst there are many problems with this console, the fact that the old 360 pad won't work is a silly thing to get worked up about. I mean, how many consoles in the last 2 decades have allowed older console controllers to work on their devices? The Wii and I Wii U?

 

[Brockyman]

I'm curious whether there will be a PC/Windows version like with the 360 wireless controller.

If not, that indicates what MS thinks of PC gaming.

Actually, what would be the point? If you already have a 360 controller, why would you use the Xbox One controller for PC gaming with a controller? They're near on the same. Unless the controller has something secret yet to be revealed that benefits PC gaming, there is no reason to bother upgrading.

Oh for fuck sake people, there are a lot of things that you could point out as being a poor choice on Microsoft's end, but come the fuck on, this is a controller, are we really that anal? I mean, geez, I get that people are disappointed/livid at the Xbox One and it's features but this is just 1 tiny little controller. You get one when you get the console (please let me be right about that future events) and that's the way every console has been. Can we please stop being angry at such miniscule things like this? Yeah, controllers are expensive (nearly the same price as a new game last I checked), but with the way things are going split screen is becoming far less frequent, so the need for multiple controllers is no longer as necessary as back in the PS2/1, Gamecube, 64, you name it.

So in this whole huge mess of Microsoft's war on used games, lack of BC (Which really isn't a big deal, just hold onto your old console), needing to connect to the internet once every 24 hours, more a focus on tv rather than games...ah fuck this is depressing, but beside all that, can we just take a deep breath and look at the crap that is actually a problem, and the stuff that isn't such a big deal.

You are asking people on the internet to relax. The same kind of people who has already decided that the PS4 wont next generation because it will provide the best console, the best service and the best games. Yeah, your words are wasted.

Just like with backwards compatibility this kinda makes sense. They make some changes which makes the the old software and hardware incompatible. While I would have liked to use my old controllers on the new Xbox I understand the problems with that. However with all the other news I have heard about it I see enough reasons not to get a Xbone anyway so I don't really care if my controllers are compatible or not.

Well, to be fair, of the two hardcore gaming consoles, one of them doesn't need an online connection, allows used games without a fee, doesn't come with Kinect, and uses a media system to allow some old games to be played. One of them doesn't. I wouldn't call the first one a "clear" winner yet, but it's hard to say they're even right now.

Umm.. It doesn't require an online connection (at least all the time, its still unclear but its not defined as a fact yet). The PS4 isn't backward compatible and the Wii U is shit, and why the Kinect hate? Its free with the system? Only REAL argument you have is the used game fee and that will change by launch...

 

[Aaron Sylvester]

Oh hai that PC. What's that? You accept pretty much EVERY kind of known controller ranging from keyboard+mouse to joysstick/gamepad/steering wheel/etc? That's nice, oh do go on you sexy thing...

 

[The Great JT]

You could make the connection that the Xbox One is incompatible with gamers.

Seriously, with what (admittedly little) we know, this is what we in the tabletop RPG circle call "botching the roll."

 

[Brockyman]

Whilst there are many problems with this console, the fact that the old 360 pad won't work is a silly thing to get worked up about. I mean, how many consoles in the last 2 decades have allowed older console controllers to work on their devices? The Wii and I Wii U?

Well, the original Wii and the Gamecube, but I agree with your point. The Dual Shock 3 won't work with the PS4. The 2 didn't work with the PS3, and on down the line. The Xbox didn't work with the 360. And so on and so on and so on.

I'm getting sick of gamer entitlement... Backwards compatibility has never worked well, other then with Nintendo, but they do everything else wrong so there you go. The PS3's initial cost was so high because it had PS2 hardware in it, then they tried emulation, and then they just gave up and the newest won't play PS1 or 2 games. The 360 backwards compatibility was hit or miss depending on the game.

 

[Jmp_man]

Umm.. It doesn't require an online connection (at least all the time, its still unclear but its not defined as a fact yet). The PS4 isn't backward compatible and the Wii U is shit, and why the Kinect hate? Its free with the system? Only REAL argument you have is the used game fee and that will change by launch...

The way I see it is if I'm required to go online AT ALL it's not worth it. I've never owned a Xbox, but I do have a PS3 and even though I'm perfectly capable of taking in online (I already did at one point) I just can't be bothered with it. The also the looming fact that you can't play ANY of your games if you don't check in with mommy Microsoft every few hours/day/weeks is crazy if you don't stay connected all the time.

 

[Zeraki]

The Dual Shock 3 won't work with the PS4. The 2 didn't work with the PS3

Even though it did. As I just got done explaining a couple posts above you.

http://www.amazon.com/PS2-Playstation-Controller-Adapter-Converter-2/dp/B000YMQGWU/ref=pd_sim_vg_3

 

[oldtaku]

This makes sense. The current XBox 360 controller is not designed for watching television, which would degrade your XBone television watching experience.

 

[Brockyman]

The Dual Shock 3 won't work with the PS4. The 2 didn't work with the PS3

Even though it did. As I just got done explaining a couple posts above you.

http://www.amazon.com/PS2-Playstation-Controller-Adapter-Converter-2/dp/B000YMQGWU/ref=pd_sim_vg_3

To be fair, I was correct that it didn't work as it was like the Gamecube and Wiimotes do with the Wii and the Wii U respectively. Wasn't aware of the modification, and I don't read all the posts... don't have to, don't want to.

I'm also pretty sure this cost more then $5 at the time as well. Also with wireless controllers the technology that the 360 uses isn't compatible with the better system the One uses... should they use worse tech to make them compatible?

 

[Brockyman]

Umm.. It doesn't require an online connection (at least all the time, its still unclear but its not defined as a fact yet). The PS4 isn't backward compatible and the Wii U is shit, and why the Kinect hate? Its free with the system? Only REAL argument you have is the used game fee and that will change by launch...

The way I see it is if I'm required to go online AT ALL it's not worth it. I've never owned a Xbox, but I do have a PS3 and even though I'm perfectly capable of taking in online (I already did at one point) I just can't be bothered with it. The also the looming fact that you can't play ANY of your games if you don't check in with mommy Microsoft every few hours/day/weeks is crazy if you don't stay connected all the time.

Like I said, it hasn't been confirmed that is has to "check in with mommy Microsoft" to play "any" of your games. Again, we are jumping the gun. I don't think it should do that either, so we agree on that. The rumored "24 hour check in" could be to check firmware updates like a PC does with Windows, anit-virus, or other software updates.

"You can't be "bothered" with" connecting a console online? What does that mean? Is it hard to get an internet connection where you live? Can you not afford internet access? (I'm not making fun if you can't, its a legitimate question. And before the irony is pointed out about asking me if you have internet access, you could be posting on a cell phone or table on someone's wifi or at someones house) I want to ask sincerely before assuming you're just trolling like a douche.

If you just don't WANT to hook it up to online, that's your choice, and if the One requires it, don't get it. But don't blame the system because you chose not to use its full functionality. The advent of online connected consoles is a good thing that millions of people want, or demand. Online play, software improvements, downloading games, streaming videos, video communication, and adding new features and content are all good things.

That would be like someone criticizing a dish at a restaurant that you already don't like...

 

[niknar266]

Why can't they use the wireless adapter that you can use with PCs currently. Isn't it running some form of windows 8 shouldn't be too hard to get it working. £15 and you can use all the old controllers to your hearts content oh wait we're talking about microsoft and that sounds far too reasonable for their current state of stupidity.

 

[Zeraki]

with wireless controllers the technology that the 360 uses isn't compatible with the better system the One uses... should they use worse tech to make them compatible?

No, although it would be nice if the corded 360 controllers at least worked. I don't see any reason why they shouldn't. From what I understand all the Xbone controller really has that's different (other than the Kinect) is the extra rumble finger tingly thingy.