Xbox 360 Has Ten-Year Life Cycle Too

Pendragon9

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Ten year life cycle? Whatever.

Still Can't touch the PS2. Stop, hammertime! *dances*
 

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scotth266 said:
Guh. That was a bit rambling. Let me just say this: I do not believe that the 360 has a 10 year life cycle. It seems to have been built for the typical six, and Microsoft would do well to release the next iteration of the 360 in a few years to wash away all the negative feelings that have gathered around the 360. It's like the Vista of the consoles: and we need a Windows 7, stat.
I would've defended the Xbox 360, but mine red-ringed last week, so I'm feeling rather down on the prospect of having to get a new one every 2 years until 2015. Maybe a new Xbox will come out in 2012. That would be really nice.
 

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GonzoGamer said:
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Too bad each individual system doesn't have that life cycle.
oooooh burn
Not just oooburn, this is why I didn't get a 360. Sure the games might come out for 10+ years but I don't see any 360s going that long without a rrod.
They`ve apparently fixed the problem though how some people have gone through so many 360`s is just amazing i had a christmas `05 360(one of the prime risk ones) and used used it for ridiculous amounts of time on end yet it didn`t siffer the lightest problem till march this year i`m assuming most of you lot put your 360`s in burning stoves or something anyway i seem to recall the ps2 had similar (well similar ish) issues i beleive with it`s launch models
 

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Mazty said:
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Yeah, but PS3's main point of sell is graphics. In 5 years, PCs will be strong enough to emulate PS3 without much trouble. Hell, in two years we will have much better graphics AND fluid gameplay.
Right.

And how far along is the PS3 emulator?

That's what I thought.
Pffft, you need a top end computer just to emulate ps2 hardware.

A PC that emulates the 360 and ps3 may be two years off, but will cost about a thousand dollars to get running. Why not buy a 360 and ps3 for $600, and have $400 left for games and controllers?
Just for reference, my friend is only now able to emulate PS2 games with a good FPS, and he has a quadcore and 8gb of RAM.
In emulation the hardware isn't directly the problem. It's software that someone reverse engineered from what they know of the ps2 code. A LOT of guess work goes into making an emulator since you can't just directly port the code to the new (more powerful) hardware. The emulator not only has to be able to read the disk and know how to execute the code on the disk, it has to create a virtual PS2 by partitioning resources on the PC to look and act like a PS2. So even if the PC has a lot more RAM and a faster CPU and better video card, it has to be "dumbed down" to the level of the PS2.
 

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As long as we get a "next" generation of consoles in the next 2 1/2 years, I don't care how long a 360 last. I just don't wanna be playing on what I already feel is "dated" graphical prowess in 3 years time. If it's a 10 year lifespan with no new consoles expect to see an increase in PC gaming as the graphical difference becomes vast, thereby enticing more to the fold.
 

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timmytom1 said:
GonzoGamer said:
EMFCRACKSHOT said:
Lvl 64 Klutz said:
Too bad each individual system doesn't have that life cycle.
oooooh burn
Not just oooburn, this is why I didn't get a 360. Sure the games might come out for 10+ years but I don't see any 360s going that long without a rrod.
They`ve apparently fixed the problem though how some people have gone through so many 360`s is just amazing i had a christmas `05 360(one of the prime risk ones) and used used it for ridiculous amounts of time on end yet it didn`t siffer the lightest problem till march this year i`m assuming most of you lot put your 360`s in burning stoves or something anyway i seem to recall the ps2 had similar (well similar ish) issues i beleive with it`s launch models
The PS2 had problems with the optical drive. My brother-in-law went through 2 of them and a friend is on his 4th PS2. Although I can say both used the hell out of their systems and used them as DVD players as well. So if you think in terms of hours of use they both got their moneys worth out of all of their PS2s, and that's why they keep buying them.
 

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Can't say I believe that, I'm pretty sure the 360 has already peaked, I thought it had when Gears came out, Gears 2 pushed a little further but I think that's going to be the end of the line.
 

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timmytom1 said:
GonzoGamer said:
EMFCRACKSHOT said:
Lvl 64 Klutz said:
Too bad each individual system doesn't have that life cycle.
oooooh burn
Not just oooburn, this is why I didn't get a 360. Sure the games might come out for 10+ years but I don't see any 360s going that long without a rrod.
They`ve apparently fixed the problem though how some people have gone through so many 360`s is just amazing i had a christmas `05 360(one of the prime risk ones) and used used it for ridiculous amounts of time on end yet it didn`t siffer the lightest problem till march this year i`m assuming most of you lot put your 360`s in burning stoves or something anyway i seem to recall the ps2 had similar (well similar ish) issues i beleive with it`s launch models
That's the irony: sony is notorious for making flimsy electronics but they have the sturdier system. I refused to buy a ps2 as well for that very reason. I later got a ps2 slim for free, and I'm glad I did, the slims didn't have any problems and I got to play Katamari Damacy.

A friend of mine who just get a case of rrod had his for a while too. I hear this new "Jasper" model is supposed to be better but I was hoping we would hear confirmation of that at e3 - an announcement to the tune of "no Jasper 360s have been sent in with the rrod" but we didn't. But maybe they just want to hide their shame now.
 

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Abedeus said:
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Somehow I'm sceptical of this, as by 2015, the tech in it will be horrifically dated, not to mention the repair costs will keep on increasing. Personally, I see it coming to a close near the end of 2010, and Natal coming out with a new xbox.
Old tech hasn't stopped people releasing games for the PS2.
Yeah, but PS3's main point of sell is graphics. In 5 years, PCs will be strong enough to emulate PS3 without much trouble. Hell, in two years we will have much better graphics AND fluid gameplay.
Have you SEEN Crysis?
 

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LewsTherin said:
Abedeus said:
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Mazty said:
Somehow I'm sceptical of this, as by 2015, the tech in it will be horrifically dated, not to mention the repair costs will keep on increasing. Personally, I see it coming to a close near the end of 2010, and Natal coming out with a new xbox.
Old tech hasn't stopped people releasing games for the PS2.
Yeah, but PS3's main point of sell is graphics. In 5 years, PCs will be strong enough to emulate PS3 without much trouble. Hell, in two years we will have much better graphics AND fluid gameplay.
Have you SEEN Crysis?
Problem with PC gaming has always been that it requires user knowledge that most people simply don't have besides the 8800GTX is far more graphically capable then the PS3
 

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A ten year life cycle does not mean that they won't create a new console before then. Look what they are doing with the PS2, it's corpse is still being dragged forward two years after the PS3s birth. This is what I believe may happen with the 360.

So yes, I can believe that the 360 potentially has a 10 year life cycle, but I believe by the standard sixth year or perhaps the seventh year of it's life Microsoft may start hinting at, possibly even unveiling a newer console, but I think there is no problem with the hardware keeping with the times at all, sales will most probably be the deciding factor.

If a marginal difference in power was to be the deciding factor in gamers' preference of console, then last generation the Xbox would have been the most popular, followed by Gamecube then the PS2.

P.S. If Microsoft really are aiming Natal at the non core audience, then once this tech drops in price it could be an excellent way to regain momentum in the second half of it's life cycle. I don't think the 360 will be out of this in the second half.

Tenmar said:
Ya know I can honestly expect Nintendo to create a console that will go past the capabilities of the PS3 and 360 in terms of power and just dominate the market because these two companies don't want to upgrade in the standard cycle. They might be causing their own demise.
Disagree. I think they will probably create a system with similar hardware, if not maybe a bit better, but I doubt they are going to create a very expensive console that will go way beyond the other two.
 

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fenrizz said:
I think that is the biggest reason console gameing is becoming more popular than PC gaming.
10 years is a good life span, because then you won't have to worry about spending a small fortune on upgrades every 2 years.
When have you EVER had to do this with a PC?
 

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360 won't last that long, Gears 2 had the system huffing and puffing (a friend's 360 actually melted the inner edge of the disc) with every once of power. Then Killzone 2 appeared which looked and ran better with more people and more varied character models while still not taking the PS3 to its limits.
PS3 may be able to last 10 years, 360 maybe 1 or 2 more, Wii maybe forever if they can keep the attention of little kids and survive on the nostalgia factor.
 

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Neither the 360 or the ps3 have 6 more years left in them, the way gaming is going with devs focussing on DLC and microtransactions, consoles as they exist now won't last.

They already can't compete with PCs in terms of game changing downloadable content (tf2 updates for consoles and so on are examples of this). Team fortress 2 set a real trend, what with relic sucessfully doing it now too, I really can't see it being too long before everyone is doing it.
 

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Credge said:
fenrizz said:
I think that is the biggest reason console gameing is becoming more popular than PC gaming.
10 years is a good life span, because then you won't have to worry about spending a small fortune on upgrades every 2 years.
When have you EVER had to do this with a PC?
When Age of Conan was released.
But the point was that teh average PC does not have a lifespan of 10 years.
 

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demoman_chaos said:
360 won't last that long, Gears 2 had the system huffing and puffing (a friend's 360 actually melted the inner edge of the disc) with every once of power. Then Killzone 2 appeared which looked and ran better with more people and more varied character models while still not taking the PS3 to its limits.
PS3 may be able to last 10 years, 360 maybe 1 or 2 more, Wii maybe forever if they can keep the attention of little kids and survive on the nostalgia factor.
Perfectly summed up.
 

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10 years? What a joke... I'm on my 2nd 360 and this one's been back for repairs 3 times in the last year alone!
I'd give the 360 another 2-3 years before the 720 (or whatever it's called) comes out, just hope the next one's reliable.