Xbox Live Beta Testers Get Accidental Peek at Mass Effect 3

SteewpidZombie

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It's not the 3 modes that mean anything, but it shows that
Richardplex said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Soooo...Action is for the FPS fans, Story is for the FPS haters, and RPG is just the normal mode that all the games have had so far...

*Facepalm*...feels like Bioware actually took a step BACK in progress this time. Honestly I think it MIGHT be what ruins the final game (or at least one of it's flaws), since it now shows that they're trying more to appease EVERYONE, and less about trying to make a awesome sequel that appeases the original fans who did flock out en'masse to buy ME1 and ME2.

Don't get me wrong, I have faith, and I'll still probably go out and buy the game to see how it all ends. But hopefully Bioware didn't make any mistakes by trying to appeal to everyone at once, which would prevent them from making a single solid game focus.
They are appeasing everyone in a way that doesn't cut out features for the core group, such as how streamlining does? HOW DARE THEY!
Isn't the modes that mean anything, it's the fact that it shows that they are focusing alot on trying to draw multiple groups of people into the series at once. It'd be like if Call Of Duty suddenly had a pause in Multiplayer matches so that the RPG fans could have story driven conversations with a nearby rock.

It's waaaaaay too soon to actually say whether or not it will actually affect ME3, but it seems quite often that when games try and be more than one thing, they kinda end up screwing up...kinda like how the movie Red State made me want to punch a small child in anguish over the fact of just how bad it was.

And like I said, I'll still go out and buy the game myself.
 

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AnarchistFish said:
People who don't like the RPG elements in Mass Effect shouldn't play Mass Effect
That's what I figured after skipping half an hour worth of dialog. I should stop playing this game and rather find something I'd enjoy.
Playing a game that relies on story should be played and embraced by those who love that kind of thing. Now I love story, but honestly it felt more like a dating sim trying to pick the right answer to everything.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Soooo...Action is for the FPS fans, Story is for the FPS haters, and RPG is just the normal mode that all the games have had so far...

*Facepalm*...feels like Bioware actually took a step BACK in progress this time. Honestly I think it MIGHT be what ruins the final game (or at least one of it's flaws), since it now shows that they're trying more to appease EVERYONE, and less about trying to make a awesome sequel that appeases the original fans who did flock out en'masse to buy ME1 and ME2.

Don't get me wrong, I have faith, and I'll still probably go out and buy the game to see how it all ends. But hopefully Bioware didn't make any mistakes by trying to appeal to everyone at once, which would prevent them from making a single solid game focus.
Yes, how dare they! How dare they give their players more options!

Honestly, I dont get it. First, you have everyone bitching about how shit the combat in Mass Effect 2 is, and when they give you the option to skip it, everyone bitches at them for that! The fuck? I dont even know.

Honest to God, I hated hated HATED almost everything Bioware has done in the last few years, including Dragon Age Origins which was so mediocre I think I actually passed out from an overdose of average while playing it, but I dont understand the shit storm. Theres the jack of all trades argument, but hell, wait and see?

HURR DEY LEAVIN DER OLD AUDENCE HURR! Yeah, no shit Sherlock, when did you figure that one out? Old news. Has Bioware abandoned their old audience in favor of looking for a new one? Does the pope shit in the woods and is the bear a catholic?

I just dont see the issue. They are giving you more options. Big fucking deal. Yeah, Mass Effect 3 wont be the best RPG ever to grace the planet, but if you only just realized, you have a lot of catching up to do.

(Few parts not necessarily directed at you, Zombie.)
Yeah I can see the whole "Herp a derp" crowd in there. I was more or less complaining that Bioware MIGHT have the slightest showing of what I'd call the "Sequel Effect".

Basically you can look at the majority of "Series" and you'll notice that many of the sequels are often worse than the original, or that the final climatic chapter to the saga...just falls flat on it's face like a ton of bricks. Often due to the sequels trying to incorporate or clusterF**K awhole bunch of stuff into it to make a wider audience happy. (It'd be like giving Harry Potter a gun and grenades in the final film, and then having some side story about gay rights when it is revealed that Voldamort hates Dumbledore for being gay).

Now I personally don't care if George Lucas took a steaming dump all over ME3, or Adolf Hitler wrote the final scripts, I'll still go pay my $60 just to play the dang thing.
 

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As much as I'd would have LOVED being one of the beta testers for this, it is just a BETA i.e. an unfinished version. It can change, and I actually think the whole "Story/Shooter/RPG" mode selection is simply an evolution of difficulty settings. For those who want the whole experience, select "RPG". For those simply wanting their sci-fi shooter fix and don't care about the choices they make, "Shooter". The new easy setting is obviously "Story". It's just a Beta, why is everyone freaking out? It still has at least 3 months left of development time before the March release, right?
 

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Sounds like a good idea. They can make the game that Mass Effect 3 should be, but with a seperate mode for the people who can't hack the combat, and a mode for the people for whom 'nuclear bomb' is the most outrageous plot twist they can follow before the gears in their heads start grinding. I like this. It means the old fans can ignore the chaff and play the game.
 

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SteewpidZombie said:
Soooo...Action is for the FPS fans, Story is for the FPS haters, and RPG is just the normal mode that all the games have had so far...
Considering Mass Effect is not a first person game, none of it is for FPS fans.

FPS = First Person Shooter
TPS = Third Person Shooter

First person means looking directly through the eyes of the character.
Third person means the camera is looking at the character you're controlling.

Mass Effect's camera is the latter, thus it is not by definition an FPS game.

Seriously people, this is simple stuff. Learn it already. FPS does not just mean "shooter of any kind."
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Soooo...Action is for the FPS fans, Story is for the FPS haters, and RPG is just the normal mode that all the games have had so far...

*Facepalm*...feels like Bioware actually took a step BACK in progress this time. Honestly I think it MIGHT be what ruins the final game (or at least one of it's flaws), since it now shows that they're trying more to appease EVERYONE, and less about trying to make a awesome sequel that appeases the original fans who did flock out en'masse to buy ME1 and ME2.

Don't get me wrong, I have faith, and I'll still probably go out and buy the game to see how it all ends. But hopefully Bioware didn't make any mistakes by trying to appeal to everyone at once, which would prevent them from making a single solid game focus.
Yes, how dare they! How dare they give their players more options!

Honestly, I dont get it. First, you have everyone bitching about how shit the combat in Mass Effect 2 is, and when they give you the option to skip it, everyone bitches at them for that! The fuck? I dont even know.

Honest to God, I hated hated HATED almost everything Bioware has done in the last few years, including Dragon Age Origins which was so mediocre I think I actually passed out from an overdose of average while playing it, but I dont understand the shit storm. Theres the jack of all trades argument, but hell, wait and see?

HURR DEY LEAVIN DER OLD AUDENCE HURR! Yeah, no shit Sherlock, when did you figure that one out? Old news. Has Bioware abandoned their old audience in favor of looking for a new one? Does the pope shit in the woods and is the bear a catholic?

I just dont see the issue. They are giving you more options. Big fucking deal. Yeah, Mass Effect 3 wont be the best RPG ever to grace the planet, but if you only just realized, you have a lot of catching up to do.

(Few parts not necessarily directed at you, Zombie.)
Aaaaaand this kind of fan bullshit is why the Sonic franchise fell.
 

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SteelStallion said:
I want hardcore difficulty and full story. Where is the option that accommodates me?
I reckon it will have those options then you pick your difficulty, seems smart.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
The action mode sounds like it defeats the purpose of the game. Why would I want to play a sub par version of gears of war if I couldn't choose what dialogue to say.

There is nothing standout about Mass Effect's shooting gameplay. Removing the story options from it just kills it more.

I'll stick with RPG mode thank you.
Think of action mode more of a "Drooling Idiot" Mode if that helps.
Also, I second your choice of mode, the choices are kind of pointless when the game is already classified as a RPG.
 

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SteelStallion said:
I want hardcore difficulty and full story. Where is the option that accommodates me?
This article doesn't explain this well SO here goes:

What happens is you pick your preferred mode and then you'll go into another selection screen asking what difficulty, casual, normal, hardcore etc. and what choices to automatically make. For that I don't know the options, I'm assuming it'd be Everything, Important, Not Important type dealy but who knows.
 

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For those curious about adjusting difficulty, the screenshots on NeoGAF (where video and screens from the leak were posted) showed both the "Pick Game Type" screen and an options screen that allows one to change all of the settings however you want, difficulty included. So, the "Story", "Action", and "RPG" modes are more presets than definitive modes of play.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
The action mode sounds like it defeats the purpose of the game. Why would I want to play a sub par version of gears of war if I couldn't choose what dialogue to say...
It does make you wonder if there are people out there who played mass effect before and then when the first dialogue option popped up they're like "...the fuck?!? I have to choose what my character says o_O ...that's it I'm done..stupid game dragging me out of the action to choose dialogue."
 

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So the choices are "easy", "normal", and "shut up and let me kill things already"? What about hard mode?
 

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gbemery said:
Soviet Heavy said:
The action mode sounds like it defeats the purpose of the game. Why would I want to play a sub par version of gears of war if I couldn't choose what dialogue to say...
It does make you wonder if there are people out there who played mass effect before and then when the first dialogue option popped up they're like "...the fuck?!? I have to choose what my character says o_O ...that's it I'm done..stupid game dragging me out of the action to choose dialogue."
There actually were people who did that. They bought the game thinking it was a standard TPS, and when they found out it was a story driven Action RPG they started to ***** about it.

I remember some people coming onto these forums even, and complaining about how long it took to get into the action.

OT: It's going to be RPG mode for me.

As far as the modes themselves go, I'm not entirely sure what to think right now. As long as it doesn't interfere with the core game I'm happy.

I guess this was what the "tweaking for a wider audience" announcement was referring to a few months ago.

gigastrike said:
So the choices are "easy", "normal", and "shut up and let me kill things already"? What about hard mode?
From what some others in the thread are saying, you get to choose your difficulty level after you choose what play style you want.