Xbox One Exclusive Ryse Will Feature Microtransactions

[Baron von Blitztank]

As if people needed more reasons to not give a shit about this game!

 

[RJ 17]

Is anyone really surprised to hear this considering the news that you'll have to buy fighters for Killer Instinct?

As I understand it, that is one way to get the characters if you want to, but not the only way. I thought it was buy the game, or if you prefer you can play it piecemeal with just the characters you're interested in.

As for the point of this article and RYSE, well I wouldn't have bought that game anyway. But it's still pretty despicable.

According to the Escapist article I heard this from, Killer Instinct is going to be a free downloadable game featuring a single fighter. $5 per each additional fighter, or you can buy 8 for $20.

 

[Weaver]

This "fee-to-pay" system, as Jim so eloquently put it, is getting fucking out of hand.
It's just a money grab and it's boring. Games are suffering for it.

Multiplayer is now 100% about milking your customers like cows and making sure they're on the treadmill.
I remember when just making a fun game to play online, like Unreal Tournament or Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, was all it took.

I'm not going to tell people what they should do with their money, but damn there are better things than this.

Moreover, this system sounds like gambling to me. In Japan, they recently had to put an age restriction on games using similar systems to this as the courts considered it to be to gambling with real money.

 

[synobal]

This "fee-to-pay" system, as Jim so eloquently put it, is getting fucking out of hand.
It's just a money grab and it's boring. Games are suffering for it.

Multiplayer is now 100% about milking your customers like cows and making sure they're on the treadmill.
I remember when just making a fun game to play online, like Unreal Tournament or Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, was all it took.

I'm not going to tell people what they should do with their money, but damn there are better things than this.

Moreover, this system sounds like gambling to me. In Japan, they recently had to put an age restriction on games using similar systems to this as the courts considered it to be identical to gambling with real money.

Sometimes I wonder if Jim doesn't have a time machine, his predictions as to where the game industry is heading are often scarily accurate.

 

[Saltyk]

Could the news about this game get any worse?

First its a quick time event marathon, now its a quick time event marathon with multiplayer (which one has to assume can't use QTE's or will be a question of "Who presses the button fastest" instead of gameplay) and micro-transactions.

Dose Crytek need to do a Tax write-off and want an excuse or something?


Also, I see we are still using that Captcha that requires me to guess which betting shop dose a special offer... ..classy.

I think you forgot something. You can't fail the QTE. I don't even hate QTEs (mostly cause the only game I ever played with them was God of War) and I despise the idea that it doesn't matter whether you press the button or not. You still kill the enemy.

What's the penalty? Less experience.

I'm sure that turns around your entire expectation for this game. Doesn't it sound so much better, now?

 

[thisbymaster]

lol, I wasn't going to get it anyway but this is just insulting.

 

[Nurb]

DON'T buy a new gen console. Is that so hard?

 

[saintdane05]

Wait, this game has Multiplayer? How the fuck does that work?

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

Is anyone really surprised to hear this considering the news that you'll have to buy fighters for Killer Instinct?

As I understand it, that is one way to get the characters if you want to, but not the only way. I thought it was buy the game, or if you prefer you can play it piecemeal with just the characters you're interested in.

As for the point of this article and RYSE, well I wouldn't have bought that game anyway. But it's still pretty despicable.

According to the Escapist article I heard this from, Killer Instinct is going to be a free downloadable game featuring a single fighter. $5 per each additional fighter, or you can buy 8 for $20.

That may be what you read, but it isn't what you said. You CAN buy them one at a time or you can bundle them up. And it's not like you buy the $60 game then buy characters, each purchase will net you every thing you can do with that character from online play to story campaign, etc.

If buying them piecemeal still comes out at less than a full price game($60), I'd call it a win. Not sure why you're painting it in a negative light is all. This crap with RYSE is pretty despicable, but the Killer Instinct thing seems totally reasonable to me.

Here's the article I read which details the costs, just as you and I both outlined them as well as other options like the Complete package that is $40.
http://www.gamespot.com/gamescom/xbox-one-killer-instinct-characters-will-be-5-each-6413217/

 

[Infernal Lawyer]

*sigh* There be a shitstorm brewing... Seriously guys, you need to cut out the "We'll see if we can get away with it THIS time" attitude. We haven't forgotten about Dead Space 3 yet, why the hell do you think this is a good idea?

And come on... Three different tiers for RANDOM loot? You're letting people GAMBLE with REAL MONEY for RANDOM GEAR?! I avoid it like the plague in TF2 with the fucking crates, but I forgive Valve for smothering my inventory with the damn things because I get to play the damn game for free anyway. Putting this bullshit into a full-priced AAA game though... No, fuck you. I hope you get a new arsehole torn for this, and you probably will.

 

[RJ 17]

Is anyone really surprised to hear this considering the news that you'll have to buy fighters for Killer Instinct?

As I understand it, that is one way to get the characters if you want to, but not the only way. I thought it was buy the game, or if you prefer you can play it piecemeal with just the characters you're interested in.

As for the point of this article and RYSE, well I wouldn't have bought that game anyway. But it's still pretty despicable.

According to the Escapist article I heard this from, Killer Instinct is going to be a free downloadable game featuring a single fighter. $5 per each additional fighter, or you can buy 8 for $20.

That may be what you read, but it isn't what you said. You CAN buy them one at a time or you can bundle them up.

Check the original post of mine that you quoted...."You have to pay for characters." Bundle or one at a time.....you're still paying for characters. How is that not what I said?

As for why I'm painting it in a negative light...are you kidding me? You don't find the very concept/principle of a fighting game in which you have to pay money to unlock the fighters to be disgusting? If you don't, meh, to each their own I guess. No real point in discussing it.

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

Is anyone really surprised to hear this considering the news that you'll have to buy fighters for Killer Instinct?

As I understand it, that is one way to get the characters if you want to, but not the only way. I thought it was buy the game, or if you prefer you can play it piecemeal with just the characters you're interested in.

As for the point of this article and RYSE, well I wouldn't have bought that game anyway. But it's still pretty despicable.

According to the Escapist article I heard this from, Killer Instinct is going to be a free downloadable game featuring a single fighter. $5 per each additional fighter, or you can buy 8 for $20.

That may be what you read, but it isn't what you said. You CAN buy them one at a time or you can bundle them up.

Check the original post of mine that you quoted...."You have to pay for characters." Bundle or one at a time.....you're still paying for characters. How is that not what I said?

As for why I'm painting it in a negative light...are you kidding me? You don't find the very concept/principle of a fighting game in which you have to pay money to unlock the fighters to be disgusting? If you don't, meh, to each their own I guess. No real point in discussing it.

Well, for starters you don't have just the option of buying the characters one at a time, there are bundle packs and a disc version of the game. But to be fair, let me go back and check like you suggest:

Is anyone really surprised to hear this considering the news that you'll have to buy fighters for Killer Instinct?

I really wanna know why Microsoft seems hell-bent on making their next-gen console so unattractive. Granted this one could be Crytek's call rather than Microsoft's, but still...that makes 2 Xbox Exclusives that are part of "THE GREATEST LAUNCH LINE-UP IN HISTORY!!!" that have thus far made themselves absolutely unappealing to (I'm guessing) the majority of the gamer market. So far, MS is failing to uphold that lofty "best in history" claim.

You can choose to buy them one at a time if you want to. I don't see how more options is a bad thing. This isn't Plants vs Zombies 2 where you could pour a hundred bucks into it and still not have everything. $5 gets you basically an entire game and online features.

If I could buy Street Fighter 4 with only the characters I wanted and only have to pay $10 or $15 instead of $60, and still take my main into any online mode, and story mode, any mode the game has to offer, I can't see that as a negative.

The Killer Instinct thing and the RYSE thing are worlds apart. There's no random pay-to-loot option in KI (that we know of at this time). If there were, I'd be right there with you crying foul. And if it comes to pass I'll be happy to eat crow. But given the available data that I have it sounds like an interesting new model. And since everyone will have a free copy of the game with one character (Jago is free), that's an instant player base to keep the community going.

If you want to hate anything but the standard $60 model be my guest. I'm just saying that there's more to the story than just "$5 pay per character!".

 

[RJ 17]

Snip.

You're still being charged for fighters, and as I implied here:

You don't find the very concept/principle of a fighting game in which you have to pay money to unlock the fighters to be disgusting?

It's the very principle of the thing that I find insulting. If you're fine with a game claiming to be "Free-to-Play" then saying "Oh yeah, if you want the rest of it you actually will have to pay for it." then have at it. Doesn't matter if it's cheaper than buying a full-priced game, the fact that they claim it's F2P in one breath and say they'll be charging you for full access to the game in the next makes the first statement just a bold-faced lie.

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[Benpasko]

Snip.

You're still being charged for fighters, and as I implied here:

You don't find the very concept/principle of a fighting game in which you have to pay money to unlock the fighters to be disgusting?

It's the very principle of the thing that I find insulting. If you're fine with a game claiming to be "Free-to-Play" then saying "Oh yeah, if you want the rest of it you actually will have to pay for it." then have at it. Doesn't matter if it's cheaper than buying a full-priced game, the fact that they claim it's F2P in one breath and say they'll be charging you for full access to the game in the next makes the first statement just a bold-faced lie.

Edited to fix the quote box.

But you aren't charged for the base game. When you buy a fighting game, you're being charged for the fighters. I don't see why this is so hard for you to understand. Nobody was saying this game was gonna be an f2p game, they were saying you can play one character for free and just buy who you want.

 

[FPLOON]

*trying to catch his breathe after almost laughing to death again*
Microtransactions... RANDOM loot... *coughs literally* I think I need my inhaler...

*minutes later*
Well, ain't this more pressure to the "achilles' heel" of this whole situation... And to think I could have admire this game as a whole from afar... tsk tsk tsk...

What's next? Being forced to play the multiplayer in order to "fully" experience this game, thus causing another "achilles' heel" in the form of a weak single player experience?

Spoiler: If question actually gets answered... Click this Spoiler tag with care...

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/005/e/a/i_didn__t_learn_anything_by_semehammer-d5qhgzv.jpg

*shiftyeyes*

 

[RJ 17]

Snip.

You're still being charged for fighters, and as I implied here:

You don't find the very concept/principle of a fighting game in which you have to pay money to unlock the fighters to be disgusting?

It's the very principle of the thing that I find insulting. If you're fine with a game claiming to be "Free-to-Play" then saying "Oh yeah, if you want the rest of it you actually will have to pay for it." then have at it. Doesn't matter if it's cheaper than buying a full-priced game, the fact that they claim it's F2P in one breath and say they'll be charging you for full access to the game in the next makes the first statement just a bold-faced lie.

Edited to fix the quote box.

But you aren't charged for the base game. When you buy a fighting game, you're being charged for the fighters. I don't see why this is so hard for you to understand. Nobody was saying this game was gonna be an f2p game, they were saying you can play one character for free and just buy who you want.

Well then, enjoy your micro-transactions, sir. For the 3rd time I'm not trying to get you (or zombie) to agree with my line of thinking, so I'll just bid you good day.

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

Snip.

You're still being charged for fighters, and as I implied here:

You don't find the very concept/principle of a fighting game in which you have to pay money to unlock the fighters to be disgusting?

It's the very principle of the thing that I find insulting. If you're fine with a game claiming to be "Free-to-Play" then saying "Oh yeah, if you want the rest of it you actually will have to pay for it." then have at it. Doesn't matter if it's cheaper than buying a full-priced game, the fact that they claim it's F2P in one breath and say they'll be charging you for full access to the game in the next makes the first statement just a bold-faced lie.

Edited to fix the quote box.

Well it's been nice talking with you.

I respectfully disagree with your assessment.

Hope you have a good evening.

 

[RJ 17]

Snip.

You're still being charged for fighters, and as I implied here:

You don't find the very concept/principle of a fighting game in which you have to pay money to unlock the fighters to be disgusting?

It's the very principle of the thing that I find insulting. If you're fine with a game claiming to be "Free-to-Play" then saying "Oh yeah, if you want the rest of it you actually will have to pay for it." then have at it. Doesn't matter if it's cheaper than buying a full-priced game, the fact that they claim it's F2P in one breath and say they'll be charging you for full access to the game in the next makes the first statement just a bold-faced lie.

Edited to fix the quote box.

Well it's been nice talking with you.

I respectfully disagree with your assessment.

Hope you have a good evening.

Well said, good sir. Nothing personal about it, just a difference of opinions/principles. I wish you a most pleasant evening as well. :3

 

[Mr Dizazta]

The more and more I have about Xbone and its exclusives, the more I just don't give a fuck anymore. I swear somebody at Microsoft is trying to sabotage this console. Why the hell does even publisher want to add mircotransactions to everything? Is greed that much of a driving force.

 

[Strazdas]

I think this just made Ryse... fall....

yet antoher game that will be destroyed. no wait, it was bad to begin with.