Xbox one in serious trouble!

[NuclearKangaroo]

the irony is that console games will always look and perform worse than the PC counterparts, so this argument kind of doesnt make sense, if you want your games to perform better, you get a PC

I don't really care about stuff like better textures or resolution. I care about the game just running smoothly without issue, you always have some minor issue causing stuttering or something with PC games. When you get everything running right, then PC games are better but I'd rather just play with everything fine from the start.

Unless it is Skyrim PS3, bad dum tssh

I hate Bethesda games so...

technically almost all console games slutter compared to the PC version, while the average console game runs at 30 FPS, on a good PC, almost every game can run at 60 FPS or more


dont get me wrong, im not interested in turning you into a PC gamer or anything, its just that to me, your argument makes no sense, on top of that, when console games HAVE performace problems, such as bethesda games on the PS3 or dark souls in blightown, you cant do a single thing on consoles, you simply have to accept it

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

technically almost all console games slutter compared to the PC version, while the average console game runs at 30 FPS, on a good PC, almost every game can run at 60 FPS or more


dont get me wrong, im not interested in turning you into a PC gamer or anything, its just that to me, your argument makes no sense, on top of that, when console games HAVE performace problems, such as bethesda games on the PS3 or dark souls in blightown, you cant do a single thing on consoles, you simply have to accept it

Running at a lower framerate is not stuttering. Like I said earlier, I was on the Splinter Cell Blacklist forums and most PC gamers couldn't even play the game during the first week (90% of threads were PC issues) while I had no issue on PS3. Just scanning threads here at the Escapist, I see many PC gamers complain about certain publishers releasing poor PC versions/ports and they have issues playing the games. I have much less of that on PS3. It just has to do with a console being a specific set of hardware whereas the PC version has to run on so many different hardware configurations, you are just bond to have issues.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

technically almost all console games slutter compared to the PC version, while the average console game runs at 30 FPS, on a good PC, almost every game can run at 60 FPS or more


dont get me wrong, im not interested in turning you into a PC gamer or anything, its just that to me, your argument makes no sense, on top of that, when console games HAVE performace problems, such as bethesda games on the PS3 or dark souls in blightown, you cant do a single thing on consoles, you simply have to accept it

Running at a lower framerate is not stuttering. Like I said earlier, I was on the Splinter Cell Blacklist forums and most PC gamers couldn't even play the game during the first week (90% of threads were PC issues) while I had no issue on PS3. Just scanning threads here at the Escapist, I see many PC gamers complain about certain publishers releasing poor PC versions/ports and they have issues playing the games. I have much less of that on PS3. It just has to do with a console being a specific set of hardware whereas the PC version has to run on so many different hardware configurations, you are just bond to have issues.

i have over 130 games on my steam account and i can count with the fingers of a single hand how many games have given me trouble, and most of them were solved with a quick google search

i honestly cant symphatize with your situation, and regardless i think the perks of playing on PC outweight the probabilities of having problems, i guess i have a different perspective so that might be another reason of why i cant symphatize

 

[Chicago Ted]

The Xbox One is in a better position than the Xbox 360 was at it's time, and the 360 made one hell of a recovery. Also, graphics never really improve all that much at the beginning of a generation.

Compare Dead Rising, an Xbox 360 exclusive released in 2006,

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With Resident Evil 4, a Gamecube exclusive eventually ported to the PlayStation 2 released in 2005.

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When I saw that screenshot, I felt something was off, and with a little digging it looks like my feeling was right.

I'm sorry mate but that is not a valid picture in this case. I couldn't find the exact source that you pulled that from, but I did find a copy of it from a different site that's an identical screenshot.

Spoiler: Resident Evil 4

Original Image Posted:

Found Identical Image:

Source [http://www.dualshockers.com/2011/09/24/review-resident-evil-4-hd/]

The image you used was not the original Gamecube version release in 2005, but of the HD Remake released in 2011 for bot Xbox 360 and PS3. I had to do a bit of searching to find stuff I was certain of, but here is some screenshots of the 2005 Gamecube release.

Spoiler: Resident Evil 4 Gamecube

Source [http://www.gamershell.com/gamecube/resident_evil_4/screenshots.html?id=154155]

As someone else already pointed out as well, Resident Evil was more focused on a linear experience, while Dead Rising was far more open and focused on being able to pick up any object and smash the dozens of zombies rendered on screen with it.

 

[Something Amyss]

No they didn't add another "processor". That would of required a complete redesign of the mainboard.

Or, you know, I wasn't talking about a post-release processor. Several people have referenced them using multiple processors (not cores, before you get all condescending again without bothering with the whole claim). Pretty sure it was even referenced by Escapist news. If it's not true, it's not true. That's fine. But saying it would require a redesign is assuming I'm talking about something I'm not talking about.

Both systems use an 8 core AMD Jaguar APU (Basically means a CPU+GPU in the consoles case) There hasn't been another processor(CPU) added to the xbone. It's still the same weak hardware, but software overclocked.

Just by what you wrote it was assumed you meant another processor was added to the xbone, which isn't possible without a redesign of the system mainboard to accommodate it. Something that major would of been top headlines.

Both systems use the same hardware basically. MS went for the cheaper version of the jaguar, with cheaper DDR3, but a more expensive process of a specialized bridge to "boost" performance of the DDR3, in straight out speed, PS4's GDDR5 is a lot faster.

Thanks for the clarification. That's literally all I sought.

 

[Smithburg]

If you have ever bought gasoline, you may have noticed that it never goes down in price.

It' gone down in price plenty of times. Hell about a year-year and a half ago it dropped by a whole dollar.

 

[Smithburg]

I want the Xbone to flop, and more importantly, I want it to be remembered as a failure of marketing and presumption. I hope it turns out that way, so that the industry can distance itself from having another one. I still haven't bought into the current gen systems; I bought a computer instead. This was spurred almost entirely by the Xbone. This was especially heartbreaking for me as the 360 is one of my favorite systems ever.

I don't know why they did what they did, but I want to see every one of the people involved in the Xbone out on their ass, and out of the industry entirely. I don't expect that to happen (because why would it), but honestly, even more depressing to me than how the Xbone was pitched is just how many people bought it regardless. It just sends the message that gamers will eat whatever shit you want to shovel into their mouths. I find the whole thing very depressing.

Well, most people who had issues had those issues resolved. I wasn't going to get one, but they solved the problems I had with it so I picked one up and it's great.

 

[Nixou]

So out for less than 6 months and it get a price drop of £125!! (Xbox one £425 no game then £349.99 plus a £50 game free in April)

Microsoft has, in its short history as a console manufacturer always overpriced its consoles upon release only to lower the price very fast once the early buying suckers have paid the tithe.

 

[neppakyo]

Thanks for the clarification. That's literally all I sought.

Glad to help!

I'm just sad that this gen hardware isn't next gen at all. At best it's 3 year old PC tech. PC's have much more horsepower the future of games are going to be PC.

And you people, don't spout "It's dedicated just for games! Wait for optimization! etc etc" Your precious consoles are PC's now. Weak ass PC's, but PC's none the less.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

I want the Xbone to flop, and more importantly, I want it to be remembered as a failure of marketing and presumption. I hope it turns out that way, so that the industry can distance itself from having another one. I still haven't bought into the current gen systems; I bought a computer instead. This was spurred almost entirely by the Xbone. This was especially heartbreaking for me as the 360 is one of my favorite systems ever.

I don't know why they did what they did, but I want to see every one of the people involved in the Xbone out on their ass, and out of the industry entirely. I don't expect that to happen (because why would it), but honestly, even more depressing to me than how the Xbone was pitched is just how many people bought it regardless. It just sends the message that gamers will eat whatever shit you want to shovel into their mouths. I find the whole thing very depressing.

Well, most people who had issues had those issues resolved. I wasn't going to get one, but they solved the problems I had with it so I picked one up and it's great.

Also it would be incredibly naive to think that Sony weren't planning the exact same thing, but they read the winds and went with a "we're offering you more of the same" approach and it worked. Perception is reality and Microsoft looked like the bad guy and Sony came up smelling of roses. These are two major corporations who don't give a single fuck about either you or I, so I wouldn't go thinking either of them are your friends or are even looking out for you.

I hate the be the prophet of doom but what this "victory" will do in the long run is force companies to implement their dodgy policies by stealth, rather than try and do it in the open. We're already getting demo length games for full price, and Capcom-esque on-disc DLC. How many more ways will they be able to get us to pay more for less?