On PC, I have 1Tb of storage, and I'm running out fast. I can't imagine all the things I'd have to dump to fit a 360Gb limit. BTW is it Xbone with replaceable HDD's and PS4 with external support?
Xbox One's 500 GB HD Only Holds 362 GB Of Games
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No, the PS4 has the interchangeable HDD's, hell you can even put in an SSD, and the Xbox One is the one with external support. Although currently external HDD support is not with the Xbox One yet, and probably won't be until next year. The Wii U also supports external HDD's as well.Living_Brain said:
Tiny hard drive size and slow download speed are why I thought the original all digital xbo plan was laughable. I learned this lesson last gen with my 120 gig ps3. I've had to delete games on that to make room for the last 3 years at least. No way am I giving up discs any time soon. It took 12+ hours to download ps+ games, so you never delete those. I ended up buying a 2nd ps3 just for ps+ games.
Installation is still optional.Jeroenr said:
Yes, I know, mandatory installs were a thing at announcement, but they hadn't even finalised the processor a couple months later. I also know that they're pushing downloadstreamdvrclooooooooud and it's bloody stupid to try and make an all-in-one device with a fixed (minus exploits they'll probably fight) HDD.
You mean we're not a collective? Dammit, when will the media stop lying to me?Seracen said:Every gamer has unique desires!
Hey, that's cool. If you quote me but remove all the text, it doesn't show anything but still alerts me.
I seriously did not know that.
Far as I can reckon, it's the opposite: Microsoft seems to have looked at the last generation (where they placed third in overall sales, but had a strong American showing) and said "Man, these idiots bought our broken shit, they wanted HALO so bad. And when it broke and we wouldn't fix their box, they bought a new one! They'll do what we tell them!" Which seems to be reflected in their PR prior to them being outsold in pre-orders like 9 to 1. It seem microsoft (sometimes spelled with a dollar sign) is pretty well hated, but they assumed they had people locked in like they do with Windows. And it turned out even another shot at fellating Master Chief was not enough to beat "always online" and other such practices.
I seriously did not know that.
At the risk of coming off as a wiseass (I am one, but this is a serious question), what goodwill did Microsoft have, exactly?SILENTrampancy said:
Far as I can reckon, it's the opposite: Microsoft seems to have looked at the last generation (where they placed third in overall sales, but had a strong American showing) and said "Man, these idiots bought our broken shit, they wanted HALO so bad. And when it broke and we wouldn't fix their box, they bought a new one! They'll do what we tell them!" Which seems to be reflected in their PR prior to them being outsold in pre-orders like 9 to 1. It seem microsoft (sometimes spelled with a dollar sign) is pretty well hated, but they assumed they had people locked in like they do with Windows. And it turned out even another shot at fellating Master Chief was not enough to beat "always online" and other such practices.
That just seems massively hyperbolic.
The issue is that installation has become mandatory with Xbox/PS4s, so swapping a disk will do nothing. The game must be installed on the new consoles in exactly the same way as a PC in order to play them.Karen Parker said:
The other issue is the size of games. All the release titles are around 30gigs, meaning it can only hold about 12 games. (362 divided by 30) On the 13th game you will have to delete one of the older games, which means all the saves, progress etc. go too. If it's a downloaded game then you will have to re-download it if you ever want to play it again (which means internet bandwidth speed and limits come into play.)
It must be noted at this point that the console generation has only begun, and is expected to last for 10 years. The current games require 30 gigs of space, but newer games will only get larger as they use better textures, more detailed models, more complex physics, rendering, AI, gameplay, etc. meaning that number of 12 will only decrease.
Of course the console itself will require updates which will take up more space than their current bloated reserves (who could have predicted the Xbox 360 would have to be able to integrate with the Kinect at the beginning of the last console cycle, think what sort of mad space requirements the software and games will require to run the next stage: an Oculus Rift Virtual Reality device maybe?)
In 5 years console games will require more space. A lot more. If it goes up to 50 gig installs, which would be a very conservative estimate, (COD Ghosts is already at 39) that would mean the Xbox One could only store 6 games with no DVR or movies or anything else saved on it.
500 gigs is not enough to future proof the console, and Microsoft have currently locked down the hard drive size so it will only accept 500 gigs. This is an issue.
You can't do that. I just said the OPPOSITE of what you said, so it's clearly not the point.SILENTrampancy said:
It doesn't even work with the "hyperbolic" bit. Hyperbole is supposed to be based on something. You've removed that with your examples of hos inferior it is in every way:
Removed.
The last gen had limited, buggy BC, but yes, one point.
Elaborate?
You have one actual example. Maybe two, but I have no info on the second. That's not completely fragged, nor is it inferior in "every way."
And honestly, while I dislike the removal of BC, I prefer it to their old system where they totally swore they'd be updating regularly, did it for a few months, tapered off, and dropped it. I only own like two Xbox games that are supported and one came in the final update.
hmmm. Steam DOES remind me of one of those dystopian megacorps.
My PC has about 2GB worth of games software installed on it at the moment. It's there so if I ever feel like it I can load up the game instantly without having to wait for an installation and a long-ass patch to download before I can play it. Two things that consoles can not claim to be immune from any longer.Kyogissun said:
OT: If console manufacturers want to seriously push the all digital route that they're attempting, they're either going to have to offer a bigger hard drive in their machines or offer the ability to replace the hard drive with an aftermarket one that has a reasonable amount of space on it. Until then, I'll stick to physical media for my consoles.
I cannot support this enough, the inability for companies to design their devices to allow users to install their own HDD is utterly baffling, ESPECIALLY when these consoles TYPICALLY have HDD installation being as simple as fucking plug and play! Or at least I assume this, because again, AFAIK, PS3/PS4 installation of an HDD is simply pop off a covered up part of the console, potentially pull out the HDD is it's there and then slot in a new one, format it to work with the console and bam, you've got more space/fresh space for your device. But Microsoft has done everything to express that they want as much control over what you do with your console as possible so... Fuck any expectations of them giving you freedom I guess...VanQ said: