Xbox Owner Sues Microsoft for $500 Billion (Yes, Billion)

Sporky111

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If this actually goes anywhere, I wish him luck. I absolutely hate the "the Terms of Service are subject to change without notice" part of so many contracts. Practice like that should be illegal. And though I know there's no way he'll get the absurdly large amount of money he thinks they owe him, even if it ends in settlement it'll make things change.
 

Owen Robertson

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It's fun to be a dick. Ruining someone else's day with a few simple words is priceless entertainment my friends. But then again, I only do it to those who ruin days in the first place, like this guy.
 

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Jamash said:
I hope Microsoft pay him the $500 Billion, but in Microsoft Points.

It would be so funny if they deposited 4 Quadrillion Microsoft Points, that's 40000000000000 non transferable Microsoft Points, into his account, then terminated his account as he requested.
That would be epic
guy - "you didnt give me my money!"
Microsoft - "Yes we did, we gave it to you in microsoft points. all of which total up to equal 500 million."
guy - "THAT DOESNT COUNT!"
Microsoft - "Yes it does, you just werent specific enogh :p"
 

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Kenjitsuka said:
"Microsoft neither responded nor terminated his subscription, which he argues means that the company accepted the new contract by default."

I know 100% certain this is illegal in NL. Some semi-illegal businesses tried this on consumers, and oh man, did that anger the judge in question, calling it criminal, aggressive and worthy of jailtime...

No idea in the US of A, but I'm pretty sure a judge will (and should, very hard) slap him out of the court. And then Microsoft countersues for slander or something just for the fun of him having to pay a lawyer for twenty years. Ah, justice!
I agree. In the US, this is contracts 101. "Contract By Default?!?!?" I get a dozen offers in the mail a day. I throw them away. Suppose they all read, "Failure to respond = acceptance"? I'd be bankrupt in a month.

A contract is about a "meeting of the minds". A multi billion dollar company failing to respond to an individual contact is hardly indicative of this.

Anyway, back in the day, case law was on the side of the person not responding. I think Bill Gates will be fine.
 

Sight Unseen

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Two Words: Penalty Clause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_damages

This "contract" doesn't make any sense.
 

lacktheknack

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There is NO POSSIBLE WAY he can justify those damages. NONE.

This is possibly the second dumbest lawsuit I've ever seen, second only to <link=http://www.nme.com/news/p-diddy/54739>this.
 

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Verlander said:
I don't believe that an act is acceptable if it's done in revenge. Raping someone because you've been raped isn't right, nor is murder for murder sake. Remember, stuff like Sept 11th was based in revenge as well, but it doesn't make up for the massive losses of life on either side of that situation.
Entirely incorrect. Revenge is the only thing worth living (and almost always dying) for. Revenge is such a popular concept, that 75% of literature, film, and video games have stories based entirely off of it. You punch, I kick. Punch to kick, knife to gun, injure to kill.

>:D
 

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Well as stupid as this all is and how good it makes me feel in my current condition. I hope at least it can set a precedent so big business can't push us around so much. On whatever.
 

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Asperger's Syndrome? Would explain why he though this was a good idea without necessarily researching how legalize works. (and why he has done this so many times).

This is stupid. I know corporations do legal mumbojumbo to screw you over but somehow I think there teams of lawyers and lots of laws and regulations keep them sitting high and dry while Joe schmo trying to use there logic against them probably doesn't have the same knowledge and resources. I appreciate the idea but I don't think that's how it works.

I also don't think this is a practice to way to "fight the power." It does remind me of a song though.
 

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Jamash said:
I hope Microsoft pay him the $500 Billion, but in Microsoft Points.

It would be so funny if they deposited 4 Quadrillion Microsoft Points, that's 40000000000000 non transferable Microsoft Points, into his account, then terminated his account as he requested.
thats terrible.

but funny.

its terribly funny.

I would love to see that headline.
 

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heres the sad part...because our court system is ran by retards...he might have a fraction of a percentage of a possibility to win, in which case that could sink ALL of microsoft and ruin services for a billion people....which means, this guy might have to die.

spectrenihlus said:
Silly and stupid but


imagine if he were to win...

What would you DO with that amount of money?

Seriously I would buy 10 aircraft carriers and go take over Cuba or something.
id strangle him for takeing down xboxlive.
mrdude2010 said:
i'd love to see him win. it would be a victory for consumers who have to deal with this stupid bullshit. like how when you sign up for a website, if you don't manually terminate service it automatically recharges the membership fee to your card at the least efficient rate (instead of signing you up for a yearly pass it charges you monthly- that sort of thing)
half a trillion would sink microsoft and REMOVE the consumers services. not to mention put THOUSANDS out of a job, and probably millions if you consider outside partnerships and contractors.
we'd go in a depression....and by god would our descendants wonder how the hell that shit went down.
 

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He sounds like a dickhead law student who assumes as most law students do, (and I know because I was one,) that suddenly they know the ins and outs and all the little tricks in the law to get anything they want.

But they can't. No doubt this guy has pointed out little loopholes in the existing laws meaning he is technically able to do this but the law is not just written in black and white, it;s tempered with actual logic. No-one in their right mind would conclude that this dude has a valid case and if this ever found its way to court he'd probably be fined for bringing such a frivelous lawsuit to litigation.

Of course in America people sue a the drop of a hat, (it's likely that someone has sued someone else over a dropped hat,) so sometimes frivelous lawsuits actually succeed - but for $500b? Get real.
 

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Hell yes, the only way to get the companies to change their contract is to use their own lawyerese against them. He's in the right to demand it based on the contract, but he should have given them 30 days
 

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What I do like about this story is that it seems companies get to write and change their TOS agreements at their hearts content often leaving the end-user at a disadvantage and often without their knowledge.
Another thing I liked is the way he mailed it to just some "underling" in the company - one without any judicial knowledge... you know a little like your average end-user.

Shame he's going about it entirely the wrong way, but the concept is kind of nice.
 

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That guy is gonna get poop throwed at him for being a dumbass.

I hope that microsoft can sue him and take all his stuff.(no fanboy intended)
 

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Superior Mind said:
He sounds like a dickhead law student who assumes as most law students do, (and I know because I was one,) that suddenly they know the ins and outs and all the little tricks in the law to get anything they want.

But they can't. No doubt this guy has pointed out little loopholes in the existing laws meaning he is technically able to do this but the law is not just written in black and white, it;s tempered with actual logic. No-one in their right mind would conclude that this dude has a valid case and if this ever found its way to court he'd probably be fined for bringing such a frivelous lawsuit to litigation.

Of course in America people sue a the drop of a hat, (it's likely that someone has sued someone else over a dropped hat,) so sometimes frivelous lawsuits actually succeed - but for $500b? Get real.
You missed the entire point of the lawsuit and probably didn't read the whole article, which was trying to stop allowing companies to write contracts where they unilaterally change terms, and he is using HIS rights within the contract to demand changes to make a point.

This isn't a "HURR DURR AMERICANS DERP DERP" issue, it's so customers don't have to put up with unfair contracts, so stuff your nationalism, mate
 

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Half a trillion dollars?

There's no way Microsoft would take him seriously. Even then it sounds like a cheap way to make money. Off topic though, if you were given that kind of money, what would you do with it? Me, I'd probably buy off several gaming companies. Or live in several mansions. Or buy several towns.