Well i can speak form eprsonal experience that when you go to a new type of gameplay it can be overwhelming. i remember when i saw "total war" first time (like 10 years ago) i was like "what the hell, ill let computer do my battles for me". because iw as loosign every singleone of them. now i cant think of how it is even possible to be as inefficient as AI fights.Irridium said:Easy mode was already pretty easy to begin with. Surprised some people had trouble with it. Then again I'm not exactly new to these kinds of games, so maybe I'm not the right person to ask.
Why? It's not like the way they play is affecting the way you play. They're not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play on easy, so what's the problem? Do people really have this much of a problem with other people playing a game the way they want to?Ultratwinkie said:In easy mode. You DON'T DIE.Racecarlock said:Well jesus christ, if you don't like easy mode, don't play on easy mode. Simple, but I don't think you would like a game if you got killed 76 times before coming up with even a basic strategy. And if you do, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people should have to put up with it.
Aliens cant hit shit. You hit every single time.
It worries me that people find easy mode too hard.
For those people asking, maybe. Not for you, so why do you care? You have no reason to care and you have given no reason to care.Ultratwinkie said:Playing easy mode in XCOM is like the Ethereals walking up to you, putting your plasma pistol to their head, and asking you to "please kill me."Racecarlock said:Why? It's not like the way they play is affecting the way you play. They're not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play on easy, so what's the problem? Do people really have this much of a problem with other people playing a game the way they want to?Ultratwinkie said:In easy mode. You DON'T DIE.Racecarlock said:Well jesus christ, if you don't like easy mode, don't play on easy mode. Simple, but I don't think you would like a game if you got killed 76 times before coming up with even a basic strategy. And if you do, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people should have to put up with it.
Aliens cant hit shit. You hit every single time.
It worries me that people find easy mode too hard.
... and you miss a point blank shot to head and say "this game is too hard!"
That's what bothers me. Its not that they are playing on easy, ITS PLAYING ON EASY AND STILL LOSING EVEN IF EASY MAKES YOU PRACTICALLY INVINCIBLE.
Its like having INFINITE HEALTH, WALL HACKS, SPEED HACKS, AIM BOTS THAT KILL PEOPLE ACROSS THE MAP, AND INFINITE AMMO IN A MATCH OF COD AND YOU STILL DIE AND KILL NO ONE.
To lose on easy mode (which MAKES you win) and ASK THE COMPANY TO MAKE IT EASIER is embarrassing.
Are you seriously getting angry that other people are losing at a game? Even if it is on easy? I mean, seriously? You need to get outside for a day or so. Maybe go swimming or something. I mean, holy hell.Ultratwinkie said:Playing easy mode in XCOM is like the Ethereals walking up to you, putting your plasma pistol to their head, and asking you to "please kill me."Racecarlock said:Why? It's not like the way they play is affecting the way you play. They're not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play on easy, so what's the problem? Do people really have this much of a problem with other people playing a game the way they want to?Ultratwinkie said:In easy mode. You DON'T DIE.Racecarlock said:Well jesus christ, if you don't like easy mode, don't play on easy mode. Simple, but I don't think you would like a game if you got killed 76 times before coming up with even a basic strategy. And if you do, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people should have to put up with it.
Aliens cant hit shit. You hit every single time.
It worries me that people find easy mode too hard.
... and you miss a point blank shot to head and say "this game is too hard!"
That's what bothers me. Its not that they are playing on easy, ITS PLAYING ON EASY AND STILL LOSING EVEN IF EASY MAKES YOU PRACTICALLY INVINCIBLE.
Its like having INFINITE HEALTH, WALL HACKS, SPEED HACKS, AIM BOTS THAT KILL PEOPLE ACROSS THE MAP, AND INFINITE AMMO IN A MATCH OF COD AND YOU STILL DIE AND KILL NO ONE.
To lose on easy mode (which MAKES you win) and ASK THE COMPANY TO MAKE IT EASIER is embarrassing.
And yet the game has already sold a crap-ton as is, as you yourself have posted on this very forum [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.392742-2K-XCOM-was-a-success-eats-own-words]. Hell, the easy mode has probably added to sales (I know they got a sale out of me for adding it in). So I highly doubt that they would abandon something that has already made them a tidy profit just because some people wanted the easy mode to be easier. :\Ultratwinkie said:It matters because 2K already has a bad enough opinion of non-COD games. If they think people are too stupid to handle basic thinking, then you can say goodbye to Civilization, XCOM, and even Firaxis.BreakfastMan said:For those people asking, maybe. Not for you, so why do you care? You have no reason to care and you have given no reason to care.Ultratwinkie said:Playing easy mode in XCOM is like the Ethereals walking up to you, putting your plasma pistol to their head, and asking you to "please kill me."Racecarlock said:Why? It's not like the way they play is affecting the way you play. They're not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play on easy, so what's the problem? Do people really have this much of a problem with other people playing a game the way they want to?Ultratwinkie said:In easy mode. You DON'T DIE.Racecarlock said:Well jesus christ, if you don't like easy mode, don't play on easy mode. Simple, but I don't think you would like a game if you got killed 76 times before coming up with even a basic strategy. And if you do, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people should have to put up with it.
Aliens cant hit shit. You hit every single time.
It worries me that people find easy mode too hard.
... and you miss a point blank shot to head and say "this game is too hard!"
That's what bothers me. Its not that they are playing on easy, ITS PLAYING ON EASY AND STILL LOSING EVEN IF EASY MAKES YOU PRACTICALLY INVINCIBLE.
Its like having INFINITE HEALTH, WALL HACKS, SPEED HACKS, AIM BOTS THAT KILL PEOPLE ACROSS THE MAP, AND INFINITE AMMO IN A MATCH OF COD AND YOU STILL DIE AND KILL NO ONE.
To lose on easy mode (which MAKES you win) and ASK THE COMPANY TO MAKE IT EASIER is embarrassing.
If they think people are too stupid, then they will just drop everything except rail shooters which is what they wanted to do before Firaxis convinced them to do a test run. They already have a low opinion of gamers as it is.
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Ridiculous slippery slope fallacy is ridiculous. I mean, you might have a point if all game modes were becoming easier (hell, even if normal were becoming easier) and that a common criticism was that the game was too hard. Good thing neither of those things have happened then, eh?Ultratwinkie said:Its not profits that 2K is concerned about. They KNOW XCOM can make money and will milk it for all its worth, its the ATTITUDE of how they go about future installments.
Games are not held to the highest bar, they are held to the LOWEST bar when they are made.
If Easy mode becomes easier, then the other modes fall suit.
Normal becomes easy.
Classic becomes normal.
Impossible becomes classic.
And what feedback did they get, exactly? A lot of people complaining that it was too hard, or a lot of people saying that they liked how hard it was? Because from what I have seen, it looks a hell of a lot more like the latter. Every single review I have seen compliments the difficulty and nearly every single comment about the game's difficulty I have seen has been positive. If there are a lot of people complaining that the game is too hard/too complex, I have managed to avoid them somehow.Ultratwinkie said:They can't make all modes easier since the game was ABOUT being hard. That requires a whole new restructuring and more money that 2K is not willing to spend.BreakfastMan said:Ridiculous slippery slope fallacy is ridiculous. I mean, you might have a point if all game modes were becoming easier (hell, even if normal were becoming easier) and that a common criticism was that the game was too hard. Good thing neither of those things have happened then, eh?Ultratwinkie said:Its not profits that 2K is concerned about. They KNOW XCOM can make money and will milk it for all its worth, its the ATTITUDE of how they go about future installments.
Games are not held to the highest bar, they are held to the LOWEST bar when they are made.
If Easy mode becomes easier, then the other modes fall suit.
Normal becomes easy.
Classic becomes normal.
Impossible becomes classic.
Its what 2K will think AFTER this. They will take this feedback and apply it to later games.
And we saw how well both of those turned out for 2K, didn't we? Companies can learn from mistakes, you know.This is the same publisher that thought Bioshock 2 was a good idea and wanted to make XCOM into Bioshock 2.5, I wouldn't put it past them.