XCOM Patch Making Easy Mode Easier

Souplex

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Glad SHIVs are being fixed.
A bugged SHIV caused my final mission to glitch up on my first playthrough.
Maybe after a few more fixes, I can finally do IronMan without fear.
 

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They need to fix the mind control issue I just experienced. When a mind-controlled alien is the last alien alive. Can't stun it, can't shoot it, can't cancel the MC. You can hit them with a rocket or a grenade to cancel the MC and you can wait out until the MC's 4 turns is over. But ideally the mission should end with that alien being captured alive, at least let me stun it or something.
 

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Irridium said:
Easy mode was already pretty easy to begin with. Surprised some people had trouble with it. Then again I'm not exactly new to these kinds of games, so maybe I'm not the right person to ask.
Well i can speak form eprsonal experience that when you go to a new type of gameplay it can be overwhelming. i remember when i saw "total war" first time (like 10 years ago) i was like "what the hell, ill let computer do my battles for me". because iw as loosign every singleone of them. now i cant think of how it is even possible to be as inefficient as AI fights.
This isnt limited to computer games. im a economics bachelor, and when i speak about economy, in what i think is the most simple terms, everyone stares at me not understanding me, because apparently i use "specific terminology".
Now personally i think game should encourage trying to learn, not just make a lower difficulty setting, but it looks like most games nowday just make you invincible fridge with a gun anyway.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Racecarlock said:
Well jesus christ, if you don't like easy mode, don't play on easy mode. Simple, but I don't think you would like a game if you got killed 76 times before coming up with even a basic strategy. And if you do, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people should have to put up with it.
In easy mode. You DON'T DIE.

Aliens cant hit shit. You hit every single time.

It worries me that people find easy mode too hard.
Why? It's not like the way they play is affecting the way you play. They're not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play on easy, so what's the problem? Do people really have this much of a problem with other people playing a game the way they want to?
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Racecarlock said:
Ultratwinkie said:
Racecarlock said:
Well jesus christ, if you don't like easy mode, don't play on easy mode. Simple, but I don't think you would like a game if you got killed 76 times before coming up with even a basic strategy. And if you do, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people should have to put up with it.
In easy mode. You DON'T DIE.

Aliens cant hit shit. You hit every single time.

It worries me that people find easy mode too hard.
Why? It's not like the way they play is affecting the way you play. They're not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play on easy, so what's the problem? Do people really have this much of a problem with other people playing a game the way they want to?
Playing easy mode in XCOM is like the Ethereals walking up to you, putting your plasma pistol to their head, and asking you to "please kill me."

... and you miss a point blank shot to head and say "this game is too hard!"

That's what bothers me. Its not that they are playing on easy, ITS PLAYING ON EASY AND STILL LOSING EVEN IF EASY MAKES YOU PRACTICALLY INVINCIBLE.

Its like having INFINITE HEALTH, WALL HACKS, SPEED HACKS, AIM BOTS THAT KILL PEOPLE ACROSS THE MAP, AND INFINITE AMMO IN A MATCH OF COD AND YOU STILL DIE AND KILL NO ONE.

To lose on easy mode (which MAKES you win) and ASK THE COMPANY TO MAKE IT EASIER is embarrassing.
For those people asking, maybe. Not for you, so why do you care? You have no reason to care and you have given no reason to care.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Racecarlock said:
Ultratwinkie said:
Racecarlock said:
Well jesus christ, if you don't like easy mode, don't play on easy mode. Simple, but I don't think you would like a game if you got killed 76 times before coming up with even a basic strategy. And if you do, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people should have to put up with it.
In easy mode. You DON'T DIE.

Aliens cant hit shit. You hit every single time.

It worries me that people find easy mode too hard.
Why? It's not like the way they play is affecting the way you play. They're not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play on easy, so what's the problem? Do people really have this much of a problem with other people playing a game the way they want to?
Playing easy mode in XCOM is like the Ethereals walking up to you, putting your plasma pistol to their head, and asking you to "please kill me."

... and you miss a point blank shot to head and say "this game is too hard!"

That's what bothers me. Its not that they are playing on easy, ITS PLAYING ON EASY AND STILL LOSING EVEN IF EASY MAKES YOU PRACTICALLY INVINCIBLE.

Its like having INFINITE HEALTH, WALL HACKS, SPEED HACKS, AIM BOTS THAT KILL PEOPLE ACROSS THE MAP, AND INFINITE AMMO IN A MATCH OF COD AND YOU STILL DIE AND KILL NO ONE.

To lose on easy mode (which MAKES you win) and ASK THE COMPANY TO MAKE IT EASIER is embarrassing.
Are you seriously getting angry that other people are losing at a game? Even if it is on easy? I mean, seriously? You need to get outside for a day or so. Maybe go swimming or something. I mean, holy hell.
 

BreakfastMan

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Ultratwinkie said:
BreakfastMan said:
Ultratwinkie said:
Racecarlock said:
Ultratwinkie said:
Racecarlock said:
Well jesus christ, if you don't like easy mode, don't play on easy mode. Simple, but I don't think you would like a game if you got killed 76 times before coming up with even a basic strategy. And if you do, that's fine, but that doesn't mean other people should have to put up with it.
In easy mode. You DON'T DIE.

Aliens cant hit shit. You hit every single time.

It worries me that people find easy mode too hard.
Why? It's not like the way they play is affecting the way you play. They're not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play on easy, so what's the problem? Do people really have this much of a problem with other people playing a game the way they want to?
Playing easy mode in XCOM is like the Ethereals walking up to you, putting your plasma pistol to their head, and asking you to "please kill me."

... and you miss a point blank shot to head and say "this game is too hard!"

That's what bothers me. Its not that they are playing on easy, ITS PLAYING ON EASY AND STILL LOSING EVEN IF EASY MAKES YOU PRACTICALLY INVINCIBLE.

Its like having INFINITE HEALTH, WALL HACKS, SPEED HACKS, AIM BOTS THAT KILL PEOPLE ACROSS THE MAP, AND INFINITE AMMO IN A MATCH OF COD AND YOU STILL DIE AND KILL NO ONE.

To lose on easy mode (which MAKES you win) and ASK THE COMPANY TO MAKE IT EASIER is embarrassing.
For those people asking, maybe. Not for you, so why do you care? You have no reason to care and you have given no reason to care.
It matters because 2K already has a bad enough opinion of non-COD games. If they think people are too stupid to handle basic thinking, then you can say goodbye to Civilization, XCOM, and even Firaxis.

If they think people are too stupid, then they will just drop everything except rail shooters which is what they wanted to do before Firaxis convinced them to do a test run. They already have a low opinion of gamers as it is.
And yet the game has already sold a crap-ton as is, as you yourself have posted on this very forum [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.392742-2K-XCOM-was-a-success-eats-own-words]. Hell, the easy mode has probably added to sales (I know they got a sale out of me for adding it in). So I highly doubt that they would abandon something that has already made them a tidy profit just because some people wanted the easy mode to be easier. :\
 

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JonB said:
Major Fixes
-Abductor roof visibility problems resolved
YEEEEEEEEEEESS!!! Finally!!!!!!

Easy mode easier? Why is that a problem? Who cares? I don't!
But all in all this is great news!
 

BreakfastMan

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Ultratwinkie said:
Its not profits that 2K is concerned about. They KNOW XCOM can make money and will milk it for all its worth, its the ATTITUDE of how they go about future installments.

Games are not held to the highest bar, they are held to the LOWEST bar when they are made.

If Easy mode becomes easier, then the other modes fall suit.

Normal becomes easy.

Classic becomes normal.

Impossible becomes classic.
Ridiculous slippery slope fallacy is ridiculous. I mean, you might have a point if all game modes were becoming easier (hell, even if normal were becoming easier) and that a common criticism was that the game was too hard. Good thing neither of those things have happened then, eh?

EDIT: Then, of course, there is the fact that taking the XCOM franchise the COD route makes absolutely no damn sense, no matter what way you look at it.
 

BreakfastMan

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Ultratwinkie said:
BreakfastMan said:
Ultratwinkie said:
Its not profits that 2K is concerned about. They KNOW XCOM can make money and will milk it for all its worth, its the ATTITUDE of how they go about future installments.

Games are not held to the highest bar, they are held to the LOWEST bar when they are made.

If Easy mode becomes easier, then the other modes fall suit.

Normal becomes easy.

Classic becomes normal.

Impossible becomes classic.
Ridiculous slippery slope fallacy is ridiculous. I mean, you might have a point if all game modes were becoming easier (hell, even if normal were becoming easier) and that a common criticism was that the game was too hard. Good thing neither of those things have happened then, eh?
They can't make all modes easier since the game was ABOUT being hard. That requires a whole new restructuring and more money that 2K is not willing to spend.

Its what 2K will think AFTER this. They will take this feedback and apply it to later games.
And what feedback did they get, exactly? A lot of people complaining that it was too hard, or a lot of people saying that they liked how hard it was? Because from what I have seen, it looks a hell of a lot more like the latter. Every single review I have seen compliments the difficulty and nearly every single comment about the game's difficulty I have seen has been positive. If there are a lot of people complaining that the game is too hard/too complex, I have managed to avoid them somehow.

This is the same publisher that thought Bioshock 2 was a good idea and wanted to make XCOM into Bioshock 2.5, I wouldn't put it past them.
And we saw how well both of those turned out for 2K, didn't we? Companies can learn from mistakes, you know.