Yahtzee Visits Valve, a Travelogue
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13lademaster, since you registered to share the most arrogant, condescending post I've read in a long time, I had to register to call you a twat at length.
>Ah, but Yahtzee, you were on the coast,
>where we pick up funny foreign habits like courtesy
Courtesy? I'm absolutely agog that this thought could form in your head. I'm from Kansas City, no tiny hamlet but definitely not the sort of place celebrities attend gala dinners at. I've never been to Seattle, but my trips to NY and LA were notably marked by being surrounded by the most insufferable get-the-hell-out-of-my-way pricks conceivable. Even worse, I've visited London, where the clerks are specially trained to make it impossible for you to buy anything.
Mind you, at no point during my travels did I invite rude behavior by scraping cow dung off my cowboy boots while spitting and complaining about those damn A-rabs.
>and who identify a bacon burger as the
>pinnacle of culinary achievement.
Again: agog. Do you actually know anything about the vast center of your country outside of what the Daily Show and Family Guy tell you it's like? Possibly an occasional Thanksgiving dinner with distant relatives that you already hate?
I swear, this is why political discussions are impossible. We vast, unwashed red masses living in the dusty midwest talk amongst ourselves about local issues and ideas, but we're also immensely exposed to the culture and thought of your blue cities through the endless wave of news, opinion, TV, movies, books, music and advertising produced in the blue bergs. Believe me, WE HEAR YOU. We hear your opinions straight from your mouths and still think you're wrong. Whereas the average person living in Manhattan will never be significantly exposed to a red opinion unless Jon Stewart uses it as a punchline.
Oh, and I'd bet a buck that the non-Valve strangers Yahtzee so enjoyed politely rubbing guns with were a lot more conservative that he might have expected. Firing ranges generally aren't put in the heart of downtown and things change real fast when you crawl out of the skyscraper pile and into the suburbs where middle-age moms drive their fat kids to McDonalds after soccer practice. Yes, amazingly we gun-toting yokels don't always call anyone with a foreign accent a queer and tell them to go back to Africa. We're quirky that way.
I know, tl;dr
>Ah, but Yahtzee, you were on the coast,
>where we pick up funny foreign habits like courtesy
Courtesy? I'm absolutely agog that this thought could form in your head. I'm from Kansas City, no tiny hamlet but definitely not the sort of place celebrities attend gala dinners at. I've never been to Seattle, but my trips to NY and LA were notably marked by being surrounded by the most insufferable get-the-hell-out-of-my-way pricks conceivable. Even worse, I've visited London, where the clerks are specially trained to make it impossible for you to buy anything.
Mind you, at no point during my travels did I invite rude behavior by scraping cow dung off my cowboy boots while spitting and complaining about those damn A-rabs.
>and who identify a bacon burger as the
>pinnacle of culinary achievement.
Again: agog. Do you actually know anything about the vast center of your country outside of what the Daily Show and Family Guy tell you it's like? Possibly an occasional Thanksgiving dinner with distant relatives that you already hate?
I swear, this is why political discussions are impossible. We vast, unwashed red masses living in the dusty midwest talk amongst ourselves about local issues and ideas, but we're also immensely exposed to the culture and thought of your blue cities through the endless wave of news, opinion, TV, movies, books, music and advertising produced in the blue bergs. Believe me, WE HEAR YOU. We hear your opinions straight from your mouths and still think you're wrong. Whereas the average person living in Manhattan will never be significantly exposed to a red opinion unless Jon Stewart uses it as a punchline.
Oh, and I'd bet a buck that the non-Valve strangers Yahtzee so enjoyed politely rubbing guns with were a lot more conservative that he might have expected. Firing ranges generally aren't put in the heart of downtown and things change real fast when you crawl out of the skyscraper pile and into the suburbs where middle-age moms drive their fat kids to McDonalds after soccer practice. Yes, amazingly we gun-toting yokels don't always call anyone with a foreign accent a queer and tell them to go back to Africa. We're quirky that way.
I know, tl;dr
).Ah, Seattle. My place of birth, and definitely not the worst place you could of gone. New York, for example, would have left you laughing.
Anyway, awesome as always. I was worried for a second there that you'd stop calling us funny names! The last paragraph relieved me.
Anyway, awesome as always. I was worried for a second there that you'd stop calling us funny names! The last paragraph relieved me.
I've always thought of Gabe being a real prick. Still think that way.
Yeah - Jayis...you said "I would cut off all my extremity's with a spoon to be in Valve Studios"
Are you mad?
Why not rather go to Naughty Dog rather or Insomniac - or even SONY (GASP!!) where real games are made! Don't get my wrong - I love half-life but come on - Crysis/COD4 are far more satisfying to play than HL2-Ep2 (if we're looking at FPS) but I reckon that meeting the guys behind Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Assassin's Creed, Crysis, COD4, etc. would be far more entertaining than visiting valve (yeah they make a fuckload of money but so what)
Yeah - Jayis...you said "I would cut off all my extremity's with a spoon to be in Valve Studios"
Are you mad?
Why not rather go to Naughty Dog rather or Insomniac - or even SONY (GASP!!) where real games are made! Don't get my wrong - I love half-life but come on - Crysis/COD4 are far more satisfying to play than HL2-Ep2 (if we're looking at FPS) but I reckon that meeting the guys behind Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Assassin's Creed, Crysis, COD4, etc. would be far more entertaining than visiting valve (yeah they make a fuckload of money but so what)
Dance Monkey! DANCE!
Sorry i was going with the lynching mob.... I thought this was really interesting and while albeit not laugh out loud funny i think it's really cool - i always wandered why value never credited peoples titles... And most seem to be forgetting the review too he didn't excatly give them a glowing report but without it i wouldn't have bought it and would never played portal which would have been a crime... if you want funny play that!
Credit it to you yahtzee and all hail the Hat!
and btw - Sony make shite.... pretty shit but you can't polish a turd.
Sorry i was going with the lynching mob.... I thought this was really interesting and while albeit not laugh out loud funny i think it's really cool - i always wandered why value never credited peoples titles... And most seem to be forgetting the review too he didn't excatly give them a glowing report but without it i wouldn't have bought it and would never played portal which would have been a crime... if you want funny play that!
Credit it to you yahtzee and all hail the Hat!
and btw - Sony make shite.... pretty shit but you can't polish a turd.
If you want to a third world country visit any Mississippi Delta or West Virgina/East Kentucky county that don't have an interstate running through it. Good people, pretty country but incredible poverty.The Loser said:
They have that episode on youtube I think. As for the sign itself, I'm pretty sure it was us Georgians who did that.KingAl said:
We have Small sizes, but they're only for little kids. No self-respecting American adult is going to buy one of those things anyway!
Come on Yahtzee, man up! You gotta bulk up a bit, so you can handle the recoil of some bigger guns the next time you visit!
Come on Yahtzee, man up! You gotta bulk up a bit, so you can handle the recoil of some bigger guns the next time you visit!
Strange that you would think Valve is "small" though for only 150 people. For an independant company, that does one release at a time, they are actually quite large. The company I am working for is doing a XBox/PS3 game with a dev team of about 60 people, we started with little over 30. Epic Games has about the same, id software is even smaller with only about 35 by now (They did Doom 3 with little over half that). Krome, the company you mentioned, although larger in head count, is working on three full games simultaneously.
The difference between companies like valve, id, epic and the rest of us is that they are self funded and arent clinging onto the purse strings of a publisher. They can afford to take the time and make sure every part of the game is polished and as fun as possible. Could a game as polished and innovative as HL2, which took 5 years to make, be made under the same developer-publisher model that my company is under right now?... Definitly not, it would have most likely been cut for being over budget and late.
The difference between companies like valve, id, epic and the rest of us is that they are self funded and arent clinging onto the purse strings of a publisher. They can afford to take the time and make sure every part of the game is polished and as fun as possible. Could a game as polished and innovative as HL2, which took 5 years to make, be made under the same developer-publisher model that my company is under right now?... Definitly not, it would have most likely been cut for being over budget and late.
Sorry, Fatmouse, but Midwesterners (believe it or not) don't have a monopoly on friendliness and courtesy. I was born and raised in Wisconsin (and I still go to college in southwest Michigan), and I will be the first to say that Midwesterners tend to be nice, caring people. When I moved to Rhode Island, though, I was surprised to see how willing everyone was to help you out if you asked - I'd expected everybody to be rude as hell. To be sure, East Coasters generally tend to be more blunt-nosed, no-nonsense types, but if you genuinely need help, they won't leave you wanting. Of course, this is all generalisation; I've met arrogant, obnoxious people both in the Midwest and on the East Coast, having a foot in both regions.
Also, you make it sound as though we blue-burghers haven't listened enough to red-state opinions, or considered them enough. We have, and we still find them a bit divorced from geopolitical reality, which is why Jon Stewart is able to make fun of them the way he does. And just in case you haven't learned anything from Yahtzee yet, if you can't take being poked fun at a bit, then you're in the wrong place.
Also, you make it sound as though we blue-burghers haven't listened enough to red-state opinions, or considered them enough. We have, and we still find them a bit divorced from geopolitical reality, which is why Jon Stewart is able to make fun of them the way he does. And just in case you haven't learned anything from Yahtzee yet, if you can't take being poked fun at a bit, then you're in the wrong place.
*jealous*
I wasn't aware Crate and Barrel was in the west, actually. I kinda figured they were a southern thing, since I don't see them at all in the northeast.
I wasn't aware Crate and Barrel was in the west, actually. I kinda figured they were a southern thing, since I don't see them at all in the northeast.
But don't leave the cities, unless you want to go camping or something, in Oregon for instance, once you travel outside Portland (metropolitan) or Eugene (hippy-dippy college town...except for Springfeild ick), you'll find nearly as many fundamentalist yahoo cowboy wannabees as you'd expect to find in say Mississippi.SacrificiaLamb said:
And even then, if we didn't have the attitude that eating four Big Macs a meal and drinking nothing but soda while driving to get EVERYWHERE is okay, we wouldn't have this problem (or a few others).SacrificiaLamb said:
You seem to base the quality of a meeting on the games created by that group. Remind me if I make a game, never invite you over to my company...JimmyMD said:
Ever consider finding out what the personality and thought process is of those games? Sure Crysis was awesome, but slowly you may, say, find that Cevat makes all the real decisions and the employees quietly carry out orders while plotting their plan to overthrow the company. Besides, being owned by bigger companies, those guys would probably be really limited in what they could say to you or show you.
Yeah...<.<; That Medium-Large-XLarge thing bugs me too...^^; Some people just like to be fooled into thinking they're getting "better value" by getting the biggest size they can...we could frankly use smaller sizes...it'd reduce our calorie intake and reduce our fat content...o.o; So I guess what I'ms aying is um...right on the money there, Yahtzee? o.o