Yes I smoke.. So I'm the devil now?
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Yes.
I love the convict line, should remember it for when I'm arguing with a smoker.
You are the devil.
I don't like to brag, but I did almost pass all 100 episodes of N way of the Ninja. So no, your eyes aren't broken.
That almost kinda kills my brag D:
Nah, I jest Mr. Satan. I'm strongly against smoking, never tried it, never will, but just being near smokers can leave a bitter taste on my tongue. That is, if they're a moving cloud of the stuff, or if they smoke near me. I tend to stray away from smokers. Easier to do that than to get them not to smoke near me.
Don't get me wrong, I know a couple of splendid smokers, great guys/gals, still don't hang out with them. But being rude is never the way to go, unless the other person is.
I love the convict line, should remember it for when I'm arguing with a smoker.
You are the devil.
I don't like to brag, but I did almost pass all 100 episodes of N way of the Ninja. So no, your eyes aren't broken.
That almost kinda kills my brag D:
Nah, I jest Mr. Satan. I'm strongly against smoking, never tried it, never will, but just being near smokers can leave a bitter taste on my tongue. That is, if they're a moving cloud of the stuff, or if they smoke near me. I tend to stray away from smokers. Easier to do that than to get them not to smoke near me.
Don't get me wrong, I know a couple of splendid smokers, great guys/gals, still don't hang out with them. But being rude is never the way to go, unless the other person is.
Despite your thoughts on how a "Marlboro livens up the day" you're goddamn addicted, and that's a fact. Anyways, this is kind of ironic that you are drawing so much attention to yourself over people drawing attention to you about smoking. This further goes to show that you only do it to look cool and be different than everyone else.
The dear ridiculously gorgeous girl I live with smokes. She at least recognizes that it's terrible, and she understands that the smell is obnoxious (tho she herself can't smell it).
She's trying to quit for her health, for her wallet, and for the sake of not smelling like smoke all the time.
Happily, she's making sense now. I'm very fond of her and I'd hate to have to try and talk her into quitting.
Does smoking make you bad? Gods no. Said girl is one of the few truly good people I know, so she handily disproves that notion. It's just another one of those ill-conceived ideas mankind invented and society adopted as "not weird".
People are dumb for all sorts of reasons, so I don't think smokers are particularly worse than average for their dumb trait of choice. I find it baffling that anyone would willingly pay for the ability to breath poison instead of relatively clean air, regardless of how addictive it is.... But hey, that's just me.
She's trying to quit for her health, for her wallet, and for the sake of not smelling like smoke all the time.
Happily, she's making sense now. I'm very fond of her and I'd hate to have to try and talk her into quitting.
Does smoking make you bad? Gods no. Said girl is one of the few truly good people I know, so she handily disproves that notion. It's just another one of those ill-conceived ideas mankind invented and society adopted as "not weird".
People are dumb for all sorts of reasons, so I don't think smokers are particularly worse than average for their dumb trait of choice. I find it baffling that anyone would willingly pay for the ability to breath poison instead of relatively clean air, regardless of how addictive it is.... But hey, that's just me.
I for one hate smokers. This is because of all the people who smoke at my bus stop while I'm waiting to go to school. It's gross and they shouldn't be allowed to smoke there.
Do what you want to yourself. I still think it's a disgusting habit. I would make a personal choice to stay away from you. I wouldn't make a snarky comment about it. If it were bothering me or others and you weren't in what we call a "smoking area" here in the US i'd ask you to take your nasty habit where it belongs. But here we can do that because in most places it's actually against the law to smoke in public unless you are in a designated smoking area.
I wouldn't say I look down on people who smoke. I would say that, if someone is a smoker, it's a pretty reliable indicator that they have very different values and emotions than I do. It indicates some fundamental incompatibilities. I'll likely never have a smoker as a close friend... not because I hate smokers, but because of those highly probable incompatibilities.
That aside, as long as you're respectful of others (most smokers are, honestly), and you don't pressure me to try it (I'm pretty sure I'd love it... but I value my life, longevity, and fitness too highly to want to pursue it), I have no problem with you.
That aside, as long as you're respectful of others (most smokers are, honestly), and you don't pressure me to try it (I'm pretty sure I'd love it... but I value my life, longevity, and fitness too highly to want to pursue it), I have no problem with you.
I really don't care what smokers do with themselves and if they want to mess up their own body that's fine, it's their life, not my business.
Only time I take offense to it is if someone is smoking around other people who did not approve choking on their fumes. It's simply not ok to put other people's lives in danger for your own entertainment, not to mention it smells like shit.
Although, I'd say the absolute worst which I consider to be extremely morally twisted is people who have children and smoke around them regularly. Honestly, I think they should be arrested for child abuse. If you decide to have a child, for god sakes quit, for their sake, you have no right to put anyone's life in danger like that, especially a child who has no choice in the matter and is forced to live with it.
Only time I take offense to it is if someone is smoking around other people who did not approve choking on their fumes. It's simply not ok to put other people's lives in danger for your own entertainment, not to mention it smells like shit.
Although, I'd say the absolute worst which I consider to be extremely morally twisted is people who have children and smoke around them regularly. Honestly, I think they should be arrested for child abuse. If you decide to have a child, for god sakes quit, for their sake, you have no right to put anyone's life in danger like that, especially a child who has no choice in the matter and is forced to live with it.
I have friends who smoke, and I do enjoy taking a few puffs from a good cigar when at a party, provided that it tastes good. (One of my friends has really good taste in cigars, but the other one is a bit of a craps shoot)
Smoking is a horrible habit, and of course people are going to look down on you for it. It's one of the few legitimately bad things that you can do to yourself and to those around you that isn't outlawed here in the states. If I saw someone standing outside on the street, chugging a bottle of vodka, I'd probably give them dirty looks too. If I saw someone shooting heroin in the alley.... well I'd hurry my ass along, but if I were a braver, bigger man, then I'd give them dirty looks too.
As people have said though, it doesn't matter to me unless you do it near me.
Edit: Also, if you're a smoker and haven't gotten your Warriors for Satan pamphlet yet, then clearly there's been a mix-up in hell's HR department. Sacrifice a goat and I'm sure they'll get you kitted out properly.
Smoking is a horrible habit, and of course people are going to look down on you for it. It's one of the few legitimately bad things that you can do to yourself and to those around you that isn't outlawed here in the states. If I saw someone standing outside on the street, chugging a bottle of vodka, I'd probably give them dirty looks too. If I saw someone shooting heroin in the alley.... well I'd hurry my ass along, but if I were a braver, bigger man, then I'd give them dirty looks too.
As people have said though, it doesn't matter to me unless you do it near me.
Edit: Also, if you're a smoker and haven't gotten your Warriors for Satan pamphlet yet, then clearly there's been a mix-up in hell's HR department. Sacrifice a goat and I'm sure they'll get you kitted out properly.
Just smoke cigars, then people will think you're an elitist asshole and won't be able to look down on you
Seriously? I'll stop making people pay for my future cancer when I stop having to pay for other people's poor lifestyle choices. At least cigarettes are taxed through the roof- I'm basically paying for myself. Fatty McMuffin and Freewheel Joe, on the other hand, drain the health system that I pay for while contributing nothing through their bad choices. What about those dickheads that go to the beach every weekend during the summer and stay for hours without reapplying sunscreen? I'm paying for their skin cancer. No one calls them out.Kwil said:
Now please stop being absurd and greedy and realise that you are paying for loads of avoidable ailments when you implement national health programs. I personally thrive on being demonised, but I know lots of great people who smoke, and saying they're less deserving of medical attention than your (hypothetical) fat cousin is just rude.
It seems all the governments' hard work with their advertising has paid off then, if this is public opinion.
Yeah, I hate smoking. Its a nasty habbit. Even if you ignore the health side effects, which as a UK citizen puts extreme strain on the NHS for something people chose to kill themselves with, its stinks. Some are worse then others but none of them small good and there is no way you cant inflict that smoke on others.
If you truly smoke for the taste jack in the cancer sticks and pick up a cigar. There is less washing up powder in them and they taste and smell far nicer. Some of the very expensive ones smell like perfume.
No offence dude, but in my experience generally anyone claiming they smoke cos they like the taste do it for the nicotine. Im not guna lie the nicotine rush it nice but just in monetary value they arnt worth it. (Working in a corner shop killed any inkling I had to smoke
So much money down the pan, alcohol is nearly as bad)
Are you evil, no, are you inconsiderate? Yeah, sorry.
If you truly smoke for the taste jack in the cancer sticks and pick up a cigar. There is less washing up powder in them and they taste and smell far nicer. Some of the very expensive ones smell like perfume.
No offence dude, but in my experience generally anyone claiming they smoke cos they like the taste do it for the nicotine. Im not guna lie the nicotine rush it nice but just in monetary value they arnt worth it. (Working in a corner shop killed any inkling I had to smoke
So much money down the pan, alcohol is nearly as bad)Are you evil, no, are you inconsiderate? Yeah, sorry.
Obesity wasn't the only example I gave. I also used the example of people who take unnecessary risks or make other poor lifestyle decisions. My point is that it's absurd and stupid to say that people who "bring it upon themselves" shouldn't use the healthcare system. Loads of people are admitted to hospital for having unsafe sex, eating poorly (though not necessarily being fat because of it), standing in the sun, not standing in the sun, hurting themselves because they are either stupid or uncoordinated. The list goes on. We have national healthcare systems in place to help these people, not say "fuck you, this is what you get for doing something I wouldn't do." You're probably never going to earn enough to get taxed very highly anyway so I don't see what you're worried about.Kwil said:
Thinking fat people and other "risk-takers" shouldn't get government assistance when paying for their hospital bill doesn't make you less of an asshole. It makes you a bigger one. I guess it was unfair of me to presume you were a decent person who may have simply had a small double standard when it came to smokers. My mistake. Although it's good to come across people like you occasionally to remind me why I like blowing smoke in people's faces so much.
Also, I don't ever remember asking for your opinion. Someone else made this thread, and threads are made to promote discussion. You need people to disagree in order for there to be discussion.