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natenate95

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At 13? hell no.

Even at 18 I would wait a few more years. Y'all look back on your teenage selves recently? What a shitstorm that was.

Not sure I would ever support it, but if they're an adult they can make their own decisions.
 

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Try my hardest to make them normal and if it didn't work, probably disown them, send them to live with grandpa and grandma. Unlike every single other person on this forum, I am just super uncomfortable with those people, and if my own kid was one I would be having zero part in it.
I'm super uncomfortable about it but "normal" is a fickle concept and I want the kid to be happy with whatever he/she identifies as.
 

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this is for everyone but as a transgirl myself, I have become curious.

Let's say you have a child and as they grow up you notice they're not like other kids. THey're either unusually effeminate or tomboyish, liking my little pony or transformers over what you would normally expect for a child.

And they're not growing out of it. In fact they're expressing a strong desire to become the opposite gender, saying that they want medicine to change them....

How, as a parent, would you handle this? Bear in mind we are talking about someone roughly around 13 years old.

What would you do, and why?
I would probably sit down with them and ask them why they feel they need to have medical/surgical treatments to change who they are. I mean, as a kid, you think up a lot of weird shit that you want to do, but then change your mind about. I personally wouldn't have a problem with the choice, but I don't think I would allow them to do any type of surgery until they were a legal adult. (Can you even do that kind of surgery/treatment stuff on a minor? I dunno) I'd see if it's something they change their mind on as they get older, and if they do change their mind, then fine. If they stick with it, then I would see about how to best handle the surgery/treatment stuff.

I mean, once they are able to give legal consent, it's not really my call anymore.
 

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Still a child. So they can not make a choice till they are 18. Now people may moan but the youngest trans gen person in the UK given surgery reverted back to there original gender. So i think its a hard choice to make and one a kid can not make - once they are 18 they can do whatever they want. Funny how people agree with age restrictions on smoking, sex, gay sex and driving but think there is no age limit to changing your gender. A child doesnt have the capability to know what they want when it comes to gender or anything else that is life changing.
 

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13 years old? One of my relatives has a trans child and it was pretty obvious at 8.

Personally it wouldn't be much of an issue if I had more than one kid, slight disappointment if it was an only child. I'd like at least some biological reproduction for my blood line.

Regardless, options are to push the child into the closet and raise a neurotic mess or let them do their thing and have a decent chance of producing a well adjusted trans child.

No surgery until they can support it though, meaning a job with health benefits.
 

Dango

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OK.

Just be like "Hey, that's cool. Do your thing, as long as you know you won't regret it."
 

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I can't really imagine my kid would be in that disposition. OP will probably go into hysterics when I say this but I firmly believe we all are a product of both our genes and our environment. My parents raised me to believe theres no such thing as gay or straight and that societal idiosyncrasies are self-inflicted. the raised me to do whatever to best for me at that time. I was so embedded in learning more important lessons early on, worrying about my sexual orientation wasn't even on my radar. As such I will do my utmost to make sure the patterns my kids will be exposed to early will not box them into concepts of gender or even social normality. Whether they are male or female will have absolutely to impact or affect on who they are as a person. They can worry about whether they identify as a boy or a girl when they're done doing their homework of which I will make sure theres an unlimited supply of. Not because I'm afraid to explain the birds and the bees to them but because there's a million more important things in life to be fretting over.

I can't help but wonder if the OP didn't just have a fight with someone close or is considering coming out and causing one. My advice? Expend that energy into something useful. Quit worrying about what parents think or which dress or pantsuit looks best today. TIME IS WASTING!
Mmmm, nice try but no.

I came out years ago and i didn't have an arguement. It was inspired by a video of parents who learned that their daughter was transgendered and have been helping her, now him, deal with the world. it was touching to see how strong these parents were and how intelligent this young boy was.

It made me wonder how many others would be able to deal with it.
 

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gender sterotypes =/= ones sexual orientation

oh hell your gender full stop doesn't determine your sexual orientation

[quote/]She'll only go after the manliest of dudes and I wouldn't have to put up with some mewling limp wristed leftist at family parties.[/quote]
ahh the ole femininity is inferior...

[I/]but there's no mysoagny here! no siree![/I]
 

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High five them, ask what to call them now, and then immediately book a therapist appointment so we could start the transition process ASAP.

Anything less is the product of someone who doesn't understand what being trans is or someone who doesn't trust their kid to know themselves.
 

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norashepard said:
High five them, ask what to call them now, and then immediately book a therapist appointment so we could start the transition process ASAP.
At thirteen? Isn't that a little too soon?
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
norashepard said:
High five them, ask what to call them now, and then immediately book a therapist appointment so we could start the transition process ASAP.
At thirteen? Isn't that a little too soon?
Kids make the decision to kill themselves at thirteen so I'd say it's just about the right time.

Besides, you can't actually get any permanent surgery until you're 18, have visited two separate therapists for a decent time, and been on hormones for nearly two years anyway (in most of the US anyhow). In most cases, kids under 18 are given puberty blockers which keeps things from happening, but are COMPLETELY reversible. The only other option is (especially if your kid is male to female) letting puberty ravage their body and SEVERELY increasing their risks for all sorts of mental pain and suicide, and making it impossible in some cases to EVER transition later on, effectively damning them to a life of self hatred, not to mention external hatred as well.
 

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MarsAtlas said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
norashepard said:
High five them, ask what to call them now, and then immediately book a therapist appointment so we could start the transition process ASAP.
At thirteen? Isn't that a little too soon?
Transition =/= sex reassignment surgery. If you take nothing else away from this thread, take that away, because cisgender people looking in on trans issues ans bringing every last thing down to SRS is, at best, counter-productive, and at worst, harmful in a lot of ways.
I never mentioned sex reassignment surgery.
 

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By the time I'm old enough to have kids, there'll be ezpz brain scan technology that'll tell if there is in fact a biological oddity, or if it's just a phase. Pretty simple to go from there.
I know there already is brain scan technology, I'm talking about it costing less in the future.
Unless you're talking trans-trender, as in "I identify as a gender-fluid plant" or some such, then I block tumblr and bop them on the head.
 

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I... I don't know...

That's something I just don't know if I'd even be able to deal with, to be honest.
 

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Put them on hormone suppressant medications and have them start seeing a therapist that specialises in helping trans children. Let the child dress as the gender they identify with. Call them by those pronouns and if they have a name change that they'd prefer start calling them that and start getting the paperwork ready for them to legally change their name and gender. And support them every step of the way.
 

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No procedures, no medicine to change them. He/she can pay for that themself when they grow up and move out. And hopefully by that point in time they will be setteled with who they are.
 

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MarsAtlas said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I never mentioned sex reassignment surgery.
If its not in regards to a permanent surgical operation, then what entirely reversible and harmless part of the process of transition is "too soon" for a minor to try out to see if it improves their quality of life, then? Genuine question, because there's no real negatives I could see aside from exposing your child to an increased amount of bullying, which is why in my original post I said I wouldn't have them present as they wish until they saw a psych. Comparing an increase of bullying and the increased probability of violence they'll face to the fact that more than half of transgender people under the age of twenty have attempted suicide, the math sways me to allow their transition after being cleared.
I was just questioning the urgency of transitioning ("immediately book a therapist appointment so we could start the transition process ASAP"). I'd rather start by working out with the kid what he/she really wants, and why, and is he/she absolutely sure and so on. Bring in a psychologist and get an estimate as to whether the kid's for real or if it's a phase and so on. All of us wanted to be a lot of things RIGHT NOW when we were kids, especially at such a turbulent age as 13. They need as much perspective as possible before plunging headfirst on what may be a whim.
 

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chinangel said:
this is for everyone but as a transgirl myself, I have become curious.

Let's say you have a child and as they grow up you notice they're not like other kids. THey're either unusually effeminate or tomboyish, liking my little pony or transformers over what you would normally expect for a child.

And they're not growing out of it. In fact they're expressing a strong desire to become the opposite gender, saying that they want medicine to change them....

How, as a parent, would you handle this? Bear in mind we are talking about someone roughly around 13 years old.

What would you do, and why?
Not much to be honest. Like it or not some curiousity about the opposite gender is to be expected. It's not uncommon for everyone to think about what it would be like to be the opposite gender, usually in some ideal sense. In many cases I think it's a combination of "the grass is greener on the other side of the pasture", and liking the other gender and then following through to the point of thinking it might be awesome to be the other gender.

As a general rule such fantasies usually involve an ideal, which is why I don't take people claiming to be transgendered very seriously in most cases. For example your typical guy who wants to be a girl wants to be "pretty" and feel "sexy" and say wants to wear all these hot outfits, and have people take care of them. Very few girls get to be what that guy wants to be to begin with. He wouldn't be content with just being *A* girl of normal or below average appearance, he's generally looking at the girls he admires who are generally way ahead of the curve and wishing he could be like them. Typically these guys don't tend to think about things like periods and feminine hygiene, and the typical life, or what it would be like to live like that normally. In many cases it seems this kind of thing ceases when they get a reality check and/or learn everything. Conversely the same thing applies to women who want to be dudes, who tend to look at the cool guys who are ideal male specimins, the money, and perceived dominance within society. They tend not to think of all the expectations and responsibility that goes along with it, and all the hard work, and gross things guys are expected to do casually just because they are dudes in order to exempt others from them. Your typical girl is probably looking at say "cool CEO guy" or whatever, not say being Leon the Plumber, and/or being an average "slobbo" guy who works hard every day and doesn't get much respect at all. Both genders have their advantages and disadvantages and typically at the end of the day I think most people realize they are comfortable where they are and look toward their own gender's ideals. Most transgenders who stick with it, tend to be those who most maintain their denial, not one of them I've ever met say has any envy for some fat girl having heavy periods. On the other hand give any person the opportunity to change places with or become an ideal and I think they would take it. Basically I don't think your typical person would turn down, or be unhappy with, an ideal body, money, power, etc... simply on the merits of a gender change. For example if someone told me I could have all the powers of a Kryptonian but it would involve becoming my universe's equivalent of Power Girl as opposed to Superman, I doubt I'd say "no". Ditto for your average girl given the same offer, but becoming Super Man. In both cases keeping the original gender would be ideal, but I think you'd find few people who would honestly say "no".

At any rate at 13 I'd expect the kid to be more aware than wanting "medicine to change them". My immediate guess would be that he/she has started to notice the opposite gender, probably without being noticed much by the people they like, and have started to think it might be nice to be that other person. I imagine they will sort it themselves with more experience, especially Freshmem "health and sexuality" classes, in the mean time I'd try not to embarrass them at that age. I mean at 13 the kid probably thinks wanting to be an Astronaut is a valid career path. Like all kids, they will likely get over it on their own. At the extreme end, making sure the kid gets exposed to a lot of un-ideal examples of the opposite gender might not be bad thing as well, you know making it clear that if you change gender you'll still be the same as before just on the other side can be a reality check, your pudgy son might not find it appealing to be some fat girl, he probably thinks about being say Angelina Jolie in her prime.
 

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I'd look into puberty blockers, while they're still young- As far as I understand, they're not harmful, and it'd be nice to ensure an easy transition later on.
 

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Quietly and privately freak out a bit I imagine.

I'd be worried that I was going to end up either (a) severely upsetting my kid by dismissing genuine identity troubles as the result of a youthful phase or mere curiosity or (b) allowing drastic treatments to my kid as the result of a youthful phase or mere curiosity.

Plus general worry that, whatever the outcome, the whole thing was going to cause them all round unhappiness and hardship.