It's just a monster that says Tuner on it after the Type. So Warrior/Tuner, Spellcaster/Tuner, that sort of thing.Swifty714 said:What?
No surioeusly, what?
What is a 'tuner?'
It's just a monster that says Tuner on it after the Type. So Warrior/Tuner, Spellcaster/Tuner, that sort of thing.Swifty714 said:What?
No surioeusly, what?
What is a 'tuner?'
Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon is just the latest in a long line of 'X'-Eyes 'Y' Dragons.Also, this may or may not be slightly off-topic, but when did Yu-Gi-Oh! cards start having names like "Galaxy eyes Photon Dragon"? I saw that when I was in my local newsagent the other day
Glademaster said:Dark Hole has always been limited and you were always only allowed 1 in your deck. Unless they took it off the ban list for a bit when I took a break. That if you play by official ban lists playing with friends without ban lists you could have up to 3. Raigeki and Harpie's Feather Duster were always much more OP and have since been banned completely.geK0 said:I was never a really hardcore player, but it seemed like that one made it just a little too easy to wipe their field, summon an 1800 atk monster and chew up a hefty chunk of lifepoints.Fleetfiend said:Dark Hole actually just destroys all monsters on the field, and that includes your own. Helpful in a pinch (and now Limited) but I still don't think it's THAT cheap, unless you're using it in a spell-and-trap only deck or something.geK0 said:There was one called the dark hole
"Destroy all cards on the field and remove them from play"
cheap as hell! there's no way they allow that thing in tournies!
edit: come to think of it, I dont think it removed them from play, just sent to them to the graveyard; still cheap as hell!
if theyre sporting some high attack guys or some overly equipped guys that you just can't kill, it just wipes them all.... and you can have 3 of these things in your deck : \
combine that with some other monster killers (man eater bug, etc) and they'll barely be able to keep guys on the field to soak lifepoint damage.
I dunno, seems a little OP, but there's probably plenty of counters I just don't know about.
Aside from that decks are so ridiculously fast to summon creatures now Dark Hole is more an annoyance rather than a real set back in comparison to what it used to be like. Also add in the bullshit that is Stardust Dragon and well Dark Hole isn't even a factor any more.
OT: I see there is no love for Dark world cards here or anyway but I am going to have to give my favourite to Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World.![]()
Quite an abusable card as if I discard him I can destroy 1 of your cards and if you discard him I do that and look at one card in your hand if that was a monster I get to summon it. Then when Grapha is in the graveyard I can return one Dark World monster I control to my hand to bring him back from the graveyard. With Gates of the Dark World he then becomes a 3,000 attack point Beater when he is sitting on the field.
While is a ***** when I can bring him out some call this nooby there are very few things in this current format that aren't nooby and abusable in my opinion compared to how the game used to run. Then again Yu gi oh always ran around who had the most abusable deck.
Well it really depends on the deck but yes a lot of cards from years ago like Change of Heart, Raigeki, Harpie's Feather and Giant Trunade have all been banned to prevent OTK and abuses but they have brought plenty new ones. The game plays a lot differently than back then when it was almost a necessity to run a few Magic Jammers or other negate cards to prevent a wipe. Now you are better of with Compulsory Evacuation to make it uneconomical for an opponent to XYZ or Synchro summon.geK0 said:Glademaster said:Dark Hole has always been limited and you were always only allowed 1 in your deck. Unless they took it off the ban list for a bit when I took a break. That if you play by official ban lists playing with friends without ban lists you could have up to 3. Raigeki and Harpie's Feather Duster were always much more OP and have since been banned completely.geK0 said:I was never a really hardcore player, but it seemed like that one made it just a little too easy to wipe their field, summon an 1800 atk monster and chew up a hefty chunk of lifepoints.Fleetfiend said:Dark Hole actually just destroys all monsters on the field, and that includes your own. Helpful in a pinch (and now Limited) but I still don't think it's THAT cheap, unless you're using it in a spell-and-trap only deck or something.geK0 said:There was one called the dark hole
"Destroy all cards on the field and remove them from play"
cheap as hell! there's no way they allow that thing in tournies!
edit: come to think of it, I dont think it removed them from play, just sent to them to the graveyard; still cheap as hell!
if theyre sporting some high attack guys or some overly equipped guys that you just can't kill, it just wipes them all.... and you can have 3 of these things in your deck : \
combine that with some other monster killers (man eater bug, etc) and they'll barely be able to keep guys on the field to soak lifepoint damage.
I dunno, seems a little OP, but there's probably plenty of counters I just don't know about.
Aside from that decks are so ridiculously fast to summon creatures now Dark Hole is more an annoyance rather than a real set back in comparison to what it used to be like. Also add in the bullshit that is Stardust Dragon and well Dark Hole isn't even a factor any more.
OT: I see there is no love for Dark world cards here or anyway but I am going to have to give my favourite to Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World.![]()
Quite an abusable card as if I discard him I can destroy 1 of your cards and if you discard him I do that and look at one card in your hand if that was a monster I get to summon it. Then when Grapha is in the graveyard I can return one Dark World monster I control to my hand to bring him back from the graveyard. With Gates of the Dark World he then becomes a 3,000 attack point Beater when he is sitting on the field.
While is a ***** when I can bring him out some call this nooby there are very few things in this current format that aren't nooby and abusable in my opinion compared to how the game used to run. Then again Yu gi oh always ran around who had the most abusable deck.
Hmm, guess my old school cards are obsolete then eh? The new yu-gi-oh scene is all about dueling on motor bikes now isn't it? or is that also old now? : \ does the show still run?
Technically thats three, but whatever. XDSwifty714 said:... I gathered my two old favorite cards.
Gearfried the Iron knight, Gaia the Fierce Knight, and Robotic Knight.
...
They used to allow Dark Hole in tourneys- limited to one, yes, but you could have it. This was years ago, mind you, I've been out of Yugioh for ages...DuelLadyS said:quote="geK0" post="9.338921.13716036"]There was one called the dark hole
"Destroy all cards on the field and remove them from play"
cheap as hell! there's no way they allow that thing in tournies!
You're the first and only other person I've ever run into with a soft spot for Neo. I actually collected Neo the Magic Swordsman cards back when I played... once word got around, the kids I used to play with rounded up all their friends Neos, knowing I'd trade good stuff for him (it was partially my way of helping get better cards into everyone's decks and leveling things out a bit.) I must have at least a dozen of him somewhere 'round here.[/quote] Neo was awesome, I ran him in a few of my decks a couple of years back, He was the perfect light type monster to sync for Light End.Brad Shepard said:Light End Dragon, followed by neo the Magical Swordsman, love both of these cards.
Dark Hole was unbanned. A bit shocking, I know. And they tweaked Mirror Force and unbanned it too. Raigeki, however is still banned and shall always be.Brad Shepard said:They used to allow Dark Hole in tourneys- limited to one, yes, but you could have it. This was years ago, mind you, I've been out of Yugioh for ages...DuelLadyS said:quote="geK0" post="9.338921.13716036"]There was one called the dark hole
"Destroy all cards on the field and remove them from play"
cheap as hell! there's no way they allow that thing in tournies!
Yeah, it is definitely a good care. However, you can only legally have one in a deck nowadays. Probably for the best. xDgeK0 said:I was never a really hardcore player, but it seemed like that one made it just a little too easy to wipe their field, summon an 1800 atk monster and chew up a hefty chunk of lifepoints.
if theyre sporting some high attack guys or some overly equipped guys that you just can't kill, it just wipes them all.... and you can have 3 of these things in your deck : \
combine that with some other monster killers (man eater bug, etc) and they'll barely be able to keep guys on the field to soak lifepoint damage.
I dunno, seems a little OP, but there's probably plenty of counters I just don't know about.