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omega 616

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lonercs said:
Sorry to offend you but, that wasn't my intent.

I have never heard of any school ANYWHERE else getting shot up like columbine, there were even a few others (such as the Asian person with two handguns) and even the other week on this very site was a thread about how an XBOX user stopped a school shooting in America.

I hear gun crime is massive in the states and I think it's down to the law which gives you the right to carry a gun, I bet your death rate would drop substantially if you took that away.

Maybe I chose my words badly or maybe I have been influenced to much by the media without researching enough.

EDIT: you relies you have just said your against guns then 2 posts later say you want that gun?

I also don't think that was racist, your country is renowned for gun crime. We have a programme airing with Vinnie Jones about it now, about the high rate of gun crime and police shoot outs there are.

In fact all the shows I have watched about gun crime come from USA.
 

Berethond

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omega 616 said:
lonercs said:
Sorry to offend you but, that wasn't my intent.

I have never heard of any school ANYWHERE else getting shot up like columbine, there were even a few others and even the other week on this very site was a thread about how an XBOX user stopped a school shooting in America.

I hear gun crime is massive in the states and I think it's down to the law which gives you the right to carry a gun, I bet your death rate would plumet if you took that away.

Maybe I chose my words badly or maybe I have been influenced to much by the media without researching enough.

EDIT: you relies you have just said your against guns then 2 posts later say you want that gun?
<url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1953425.stm>School shootings the world over, a click away.
We've got Scotland, Yemen, Germany, and the U.S. on that short list.
EDIT: The reason they banned guns in the U.K. was because of a school shooting.
 

omega 616

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Berethond said:
omega 616 said:
lonercs said:
Sorry to offend you but, that wasn't my intent.

I have never heard of any school ANYWHERE else getting shot up like columbine, there were even a few others and even the other week on this very site was a thread about how an XBOX user stopped a school shooting in America.

I hear gun crime is massive in the states and I think it's down to the law which gives you the right to carry a gun, I bet your death rate would plumet if you took that away.

Maybe I chose my words badly or maybe I have been influenced to much by the media without researching enough.

EDIT: you relies you have just said your against guns then 2 posts later say you want that gun?
<url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1953425.stm>School shootings the world over, a click away.
We've got Scotland, Yemen, Germany, and the U.S. on that short list.
EDIT: The reason they banned guns in the U.K. was because of a school shooting.
"Maybe I chose my words badly or maybe I have been influenced to much by the media without researching enough."

To your edit: Maybe that proves we learn from our mistakes? I can remember atleast 2, maybe 3 school shootings in USA.

This website: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

Shows alot more and most seem to be from the US although I am entirely sure.

Edit, Your website shows 4 school shootings in USA, joint top by Germany going off that website, off mine they seem to be leading by a mile in school shoot ups. so is it racist if it's true?
 

soapyshooter

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Berethond said:
omega 616 said:
lonercs said:
Sorry to offend you but, that wasn't my intent.

I have never heard of any school ANYWHERE else getting shot up like columbine, there were even a few others and even the other week on this very site was a thread about how an XBOX user stopped a school shooting in America.

I hear gun crime is massive in the states and I think it's down to the law which gives you the right to carry a gun, I bet your death rate would plumet if you took that away.

Maybe I chose my words badly or maybe I have been influenced to much by the media without researching enough.

EDIT: you relies you have just said your against guns then 2 posts later say you want that gun?
<url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1953425.stm>School shootings the world over, a click away.
We've got Scotland, Yemen, Germany, and the U.S. on that short list.
EDIT: The reason they banned guns in the U.K. was because of a school shooting.
You cannot deny people the right to own a gun because a few nutjobs decide to use them in schools and kill innocent people. Kids who shoot up schools get guns illegally, maybe you should ask your government for stronger gun control, rather than down right denying everyone ownership of a gun
 

omega 616

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soapyshooter said:
You cannot deny people the right to own a gun because a few nutjobs decide to use them in schools and kill innocent people. Kids who shoot up schools get guns illegally, maybe you should ask your government for stronger gun control, rather than down right denying everyone ownership of a gun
Who is that to? It seems like me at first then it seem to aimed at an American.

It's not a few nut jobs though, look at the website I just posted, most seem to be American. Even if you have two normal, respectful people with handguns and they get into a tense situation were both are holding guns to each other all it takes is a sudden movement or a hair trigger and two people are dead.

In England only a few very rough ares have armed police and guns are alot harder to get hold of so our gun crime is alot lower, I have heard you can buy guns from your local Wal-mart.
 

lonercs

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omega 616 said:
lonercs said:
Sorry to offend you but, that wasn't my intent.

I have never heard of any school ANYWHERE else getting shot up like columbine, there were even a few others and even the other week on this very site was a thread about how an XBOX user stopped a school shooting in America.

I hear gun crime is massive in the states and I think it's down to the law which gives you the right to carry a gun, I bet your death rate would plumet if you took that away.

Maybe I chose my words badly or maybe I have been influenced to much by the media without researching enough.

EDIT: you relies you have just said your against guns then 2 posts later say you want that gun?
I do not completely disagree with you. In fact for the most part I DO agree with you. People should not be able to carry around and buy guns like they do in the USA. There does need major fix with gun laws.

PS. my picture is of a sword gun. It is not to be taken literally. I made it as a joke. Plus I'm very sure you can not use that thing as a gun. It is not but a prop in real life. A slight trolling but, mostly harmless and funny post.
 

onlyAname

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First gun I've owned is a Colt 1911. Looking into one of the M4 AR-15 variants for the next purchase.
 

Samoftherocks

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For home defense, nothing, NOTHING beats the sound of an unseen shotgun cocking in the darkness.

The next sound will usually be a grown man pissing himself and weeping softly...
 

Romblen

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My first gun was a Walther P22. Right now it's the only gun I own.
I like it, it's a nice reliable gun. I use it for target shooting. Since it's .22 LR, the ammo is really cheap. Some one using 9mm bullets would easily spend 5 times as much I did for the same amount of bullets.

I would like to get a .22 LR revolver someday, I don't know when though.
 

e2density

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The first gun that I got directly for myself was given to me.


Smith and Wesson 686. I've had plenty of rifles before this, though.
 

tsb247

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omega 616 said:
I hear gun crime is massive in the states and I think it's down to the law which gives you the right to carry a gun, I bet your death rate would drop substantially if you took that away.

Maybe I chose my words badly or maybe I have been influenced to much by the media without researching enough.
Another thing to take into account when looking at gun crime in the U.S. is the population. The population of the U.S. is somewhere around double (maybe even more) than the populations of the U.K., Australia, or even Canada (although I am not 100% on Australia... I don't feel like looking it up now). The fact that there are SO many more people wil guns will skew the stats quite a bit. Having around 10,000 firearm related deaths in a year isn't really all that much compared to the population as a whole. However, 10,000 out of the population of the U.K. would be a far larger percentage.

If you also look at population density when compared to a country like the U.K. or Canada, you will also see that there are areas of the country where people simply do not live (quite a few actually). Most violent crime is centered around the denser areas which can be reduced to a number of smaller regions.

I have NEVER seen someone shot due to an argument or any other dispute. I have seen one suicide by firearm, but that guy would have found another more painful way to die if he didn't have a gun, so that's not really even an issue. My point is that most Americans will never witness a death by firearm. Sure, the odds of seeing one may be higher in some areas but for the most part, the U.S. is a safe place.

I just think it's funny how people have this idea that there are people shooting each other all the time here in the U.S. Sure, there are unsafe areas of this country just like any other, but for the most part, you can walk down the street almost anywhere and be perfectly safe. Guns are not as big of a problem as people make them out to be.

If the U.S. would do more to wipe out street gangs, then gun violence would drop DRAMATICALLY. That is one of the largest sources of firearm related violence in the U.S., and that can be traced to a relatively small demographic.
 

The Singularity

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lonercs said:
Berethond said:
omega 616 said:
lonercs said:
Sorry to offend you but, that wasn't my intent.

I have never heard of any school ANYWHERE else getting shot up like columbine, there were even a few others and even the other week on this very site was a thread about how an XBOX user stopped a school shooting in America.

I hear gun crime is massive in the states and I think it's down to the law which gives you the right to carry a gun, I bet your death rate would plumet if you took that away.

Maybe I chose my words badly or maybe I have been influenced to much by the media without researching enough.

EDIT: you relies you have just said your against guns then 2 posts later say you want that gun?
<url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1953425.stm>School shootings the world over, a click away.
We've got Scotland, Yemen, Germany, and the U.S. on that short list.
EDIT: The reason they banned guns in the U.K. was because of a school shooting.
I do not completely disagree with you. In fact for the most part I DO agree with you. People should not be able to carry around and buy guns like they do in the USA. There does need major fix with gun laws.

PS. my picture is of a sword gun. It is not to be taken literally. I made it as a joke. Plus I'm very sure you can not use that thing as a gun. It is not but a prop in real life. A slight trolling but, mostly harmless and funny post.
Yes because the kids in columbine went and LEGALLY bought guns? Bullcrap. Before you say that our gun policy is bad look at the fantastic history of armed citizen prevention, the biggest one was Nazi Germany's disbarment of Jews and that ended well as you should all know(SARCASM SARCASM) and the more recent one in Australia. Australia after people were forced to turn their guns in had a large increase in crime because guess what? The criminals did not obey the law to turn THEIR guns in, but the people who had them for self defense were forced to.
Biased source:http://www.nrawinningteam.com/auresult.html, unbiased: http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/australiaguns.html.

The problem with gun control is exactly who gets the guns. Crazy people should not get guns obviously. For people who claim that no matter what guns cause crime look at Switzerland(http://www.theblessingsofliberty.com/articles/article11.html, http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44234000/gif/_44234517_gun_crime_4161.gif) its quite simple, they are trained with them, background checked of course, and others have the ability to fight back so there is no urge to use it. For other countries however people with guns have a massive advantage, and guess what? If you ban guns the wrong type of people who want guns will still get them illegally. While the legal people are left defenseless.
 

Berethond

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omega 616 said:
Well, statistics lie. The U.S. has a much higher population than the U.K. or Germany, so it would stand to reason we would have more of everything. Our population is five times the U.K.'s, so we should have five times as many school shootings.
 

yoyo13rom

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Although guns don't kill(people with guns, do), I'm not such a big fan of them.
My first gun(if you can consider it a gun) was a colt


It had fake bullets, but it was a pretty accurate reproduction of the original.

It had been my dad's since we was 10. Too bad that when I became 15, an accident happened and it broke into two pieces...
 

Neurowaste

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My first gun was my Mosin Nagant 91/30 when I was 12 (no i'm not some redneck, my family has a long military tradition and I now do competitive shooting) it's still my favorite out of all the guns I own. Being half-Russian and having a grandpa that died in the battle of Moscow, this gun has a lot of sentimental value to me and it's one hell of a rifle to shoot.