Your Music pet peeves
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In fairness, sometimes it's hard to stop that happening. I don't understand why anyone would try to do it on purpose though.Cowabungaa said:
My peeve would probably be the media referring to every single performer as an "artist" when a fair few of them didn't even write their own songs. Unless you created art, you're not an artist.
Eh. That was alright. Just a bit repetitive for my tastes.AnarchistFish said:Noooo guy-with-the-stephen-fry-avatar-who-usually-comes-across-as-pretty-coolhazabaza1 said:
Don't fall for it
Not all dubstep is wubwubwub-y.
Unless you actually do hate all dubstep. In which case, oh well.
(I wonder how many times I've linked Burial on this site...)
"POPMUSIC?! This barely counts as popmusic, it's on the edge of being regular rock. <.<"TheKasp said:
Yeah, why don't you just admit that we are diverse creatures that likes separate and several music styles? Unluckily, people has a need to feel different and special, and will thus try to defend their not-so-mainstream music to death. Why can't we all just get along?
Yeah, choosing their worst examples isn't too helpful.Thaliur said:
Katy Perry's "Last Friday Night", "The One That Got Away", and "Hot n Cold" don't fit the "she screams" assertion.
Rihanna's "Man Down", "Take a Bow", "We Found Love", "Umbrella", etc... also don't fit. The only "shrieky" songs of hers I can think of are "Russian Roulette" and "Where Have You Been".
OK, it's getting difficult for me now, because I do not know all the examples you gave (at least not by their titles), but Last Friday Night is definitely an ear-piercing shriek song, and of the Rihanna songs I can only recognise "We Found Love", which is not only unbearably annoying, but also contains a fair amount of unwarranted whiney shrieking, although indeed not as bad as Katy Perry or Christina Aguilera.lacktheknack said:
I'm so confused here. You are aware that using your upper vocal register is not "shrieking", right? If anything, "We Found Love" was reserved.Thaliur said:
Although if you think this is "shrieky", I'll eat ALL of my hats.
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I hate, HATE! songs that remix the electronica remix of the remix of an 80's song.
Or less specifically, serial remixes.
I like Sweet Dreams by Eurythmics, the Marilyn Manson remix was awesome....but twenty fucking years on, and I'm still hearing remixes.
CUT.THAT.SHIT.OUT
Or less specifically, serial remixes.
I like Sweet Dreams by Eurythmics, the Marilyn Manson remix was awesome....but twenty fucking years on, and I'm still hearing remixes.
CUT.THAT.SHIT.OUT
Sorry, I cannot watch the video, because apparently a german institution is able to block an American webiste for showing music videos by Americans... quite ridiculous...lacktheknack said:
I am perfectly aware that using the upper vocal registers is not shrieking, but similarly, there is a huge difference between "using" and "abusing". There are people with a voice that is capable of stable sound in such tunes. She is not one of them.
I used to hate the whole 'man and his guitar' thing too. But the Mountain Goats changed that for me. It's not about women, it's about life, and John Darnielle is just such a good songwriter that I can't say a bad word about his lyrics. It's 'man and his guitar' music like Ed Sheeran that really grinds my gears.
Is pop a genre? I never thought of it as one. If it is, then it has to be just behind "indie" for horribly vague genre names. Anyway, I like that song you embedded. It's folk, and I like folk. You might like Laura Marling (though she can sing very well, actually). I like a good many female singers, but I don't think many fit the "bad singer" category (Kim Gordon might be the closest).TheKasp said:
I also didn't mean to make it seem like I only like those kind of singers. In actuality, I'm also a huge fan of old R&B/Soul (Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke, Bill Withers, Al Green) [footnote]And I'm aware that people today who claim to idolize and try to mimic these artists tend to be the ones who me cringe.[/footnote]It's just that the rougher kind of music I linked so much before is where I feel more at home. It connects to me the most.
I have to say, it really takes a lot to bother me with music. I'm only 18, but there isn't really any genre that I don't mind listening to occasionally. I can even tolerate the high egos present in rap music, and GTA: San Andreas showed me that country music can be rather good.
The only thing that really irritates me is songs with women complaining about how their boyfriends don't love them enough. And that only annoys me because I know the target audience is 13 year old girls who think they need a boyfriend to be considered a human being.
That, and, guys making stupid promises like "I'll be with you forever". Because, honestly, sometimes people want to go the toilet without being watched by loved ones, contrary to what the songs will have you believe. And there is always that minor inconvenience known as "death". Just a realist speaking...
The only thing that really irritates me is songs with women complaining about how their boyfriends don't love them enough. And that only annoys me because I know the target audience is 13 year old girls who think they need a boyfriend to be considered a human being.
That, and, guys making stupid promises like "I'll be with you forever". Because, honestly, sometimes people want to go the toilet without being watched by loved ones, contrary to what the songs will have you believe. And there is always that minor inconvenience known as "death". Just a realist speaking...
Stability -Thaliur said:
Ah! I get it now!
I personally think mild instability is good for adding emotional punch to a song, but if you don't, then that's cool. At least I know what you're talking about, now.
Basically, when I think "shrieky", I think of blaring - reaching the point where your voicebox actually physically opens wider to allow the sound out. Try it yourself, you'll find there's a loudness were your throat bobs a bit and the sound feels different, that's when you've it the "shriek range". Christina Aguilera spends pretty much her entire career in there. Rihanna rarely breeches it. They're both fairly unstable in their voices (although again much more so with Christina), so you're right about that.
Country music can be awesome. It's a shame that most people think its just guys like Toby Keith, singing about how great Texas and Jesus are.Wooleh Sheep said:
Willie Nelson, Johnnie Cash, Merle Haggard (although he strays into that territory occaisionally), Hank Williams, lots of Bob Dylan's stuff, Loretta Lynn, Tennessee Ernie Ford, bluegrass, Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk, The Holy Modal Rounders, modern "indie" country like Bonnie "Prince" Billie and Wilco. All amazing music.
Stuff like high egos aren't bad by themselves. I'm a massive fan of Jay Z and Kanye West for the simple reason that they are funny and a lot of their humour comes from witty boasts. Kanye West is actually a bad example as well, because if people were to actually listen to his music, they would realise that he contrasts his bragging with lots of moments of introspection and honesty.
1. Songs where the singer seems to sing off key from time to time. I don't have any specific examples, but I have herd it, and it makes me grind my teeth. And this isn't something common to "bad" singers. I think it depends on the type of song.
2. Songs that take far too long to get to the lyrics. This usually happens in remixes. Similarly, I don't like it when the same beat is looped repeatedly in a remix. It doesn't bother me when the lyrics are going, but it irks me during the wordless moments. It just makes the song feel like it's dragging.
3. Songs with offensive or depressing lyrics. I just don't care for them, personally. I can kinda understand if it's something the artist is trying to make a point, like singing about a situation they lived through, but a good deal of the time, just song just feels like they're trying to sound cool or deep when they're not. Other times, it just sounds like whining or like they're full of themselves.
4. Lyrics that don't rhyme or make sense (unless they weren't suppose to make sense in the first). I just like rhyming in music, and songs without them annoy me to no end. It's just not my style. Also, some songs have ryhming for the sake of rhyming, but they don't make a lot of sense. I find this a lot in amateur rap songs.
2. Songs that take far too long to get to the lyrics. This usually happens in remixes. Similarly, I don't like it when the same beat is looped repeatedly in a remix. It doesn't bother me when the lyrics are going, but it irks me during the wordless moments. It just makes the song feel like it's dragging.
3. Songs with offensive or depressing lyrics. I just don't care for them, personally. I can kinda understand if it's something the artist is trying to make a point, like singing about a situation they lived through, but a good deal of the time, just song just feels like they're trying to sound cool or deep when they're not. Other times, it just sounds like whining or like they're full of themselves.
4. Lyrics that don't rhyme or make sense (unless they weren't suppose to make sense in the first). I just like rhyming in music, and songs without them annoy me to no end. It's just not my style. Also, some songs have ryhming for the sake of rhyming, but they don't make a lot of sense. I find this a lot in amateur rap songs.
oh god..this thing again?Bhaalspawn said:
you do realise that its mostly a stylistic choice and doesnt have anything to do with talent? a talentless hack is going to be a telentless hack regardless of medium
would you honestly go Tell Trent Reznor to go learn an instrament?
or what about thease guys?
what? into the void?...I'm pretty sure theres some electronic going on there..and if not Reznor has used electronic or synthetic methods in most of his workBhaalspawn said:
I'm pretty sure "we can make the world stop" is pureley electronic
The word 'shaw-tay' in modern hip-hop/r'n'b, when it's held over eight bars and heavily auto tuned for a ridiculous melismatic effect. Every time I hear 'shaw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-tay-hey-hey-hey-hey-hey-hey-hey-hey!' I die a little inside.
Excessive breakdowns in modern -core music. A band might be locked into a good groove, they might be playing some decent riffs, and before they've explored that territory, wham! One note staccato breakdown that removes all momentum the song had gained. I don't like the use of auto-tune in -core, either. Auto-tune always sounds so sterile. Hardcore, metal, and by extension, their derivative genres, should be raw and honest, not flaccid and compromising.
In any genre, when a soloist plays more notes than music. Usually to impress people or get away with masturbating in public. Running through scales rather quickly rather than playing actual phrases is an example of this.
I don't like falses that think they can entry. They think they won't be burned and died. Well, they're wrong, the nuclear drums will crush their brains, slaughtering all with intensive pain.
Here are some things people say that annoy me:
'I don't like jazz, it's too slow.'
'I've never heard of them, they mustn't be any good.'
'Carcass? Are they a screamo band, like Atreyu?'
'How can you listen to music with no singing?'
'Oh, my god, I love Nickelback so much!'
'They might be an awful band that sounds like shit fried in piss, but they're good live. People in the crowd punch each other. No hard feelings, though, it's just fun getting punched in the face. When I saw Elton John,nobody punched anyone else, he sucks.'
'You like Elton John? What, are you gay?'
'Why would you listen to something you can't dance to?'
'I listen to everything! Except for country, metal, rock, jazz, electronic, classical, prog, punk, avant-garde, the blues, folk, disco, funk, hip-hop, r'n'b, doo-wop, gospel, big band, ska, zeuhl, bluegrass, and shoegaze.'
'I just like to whatever's on the radio.'
'All ____ sounds the same.'
Excessive breakdowns in modern -core music. A band might be locked into a good groove, they might be playing some decent riffs, and before they've explored that territory, wham! One note staccato breakdown that removes all momentum the song had gained. I don't like the use of auto-tune in -core, either. Auto-tune always sounds so sterile. Hardcore, metal, and by extension, their derivative genres, should be raw and honest, not flaccid and compromising.
In any genre, when a soloist plays more notes than music. Usually to impress people or get away with masturbating in public. Running through scales rather quickly rather than playing actual phrases is an example of this.
I don't like falses that think they can entry. They think they won't be burned and died. Well, they're wrong, the nuclear drums will crush their brains, slaughtering all with intensive pain.
Here are some things people say that annoy me:
'I don't like jazz, it's too slow.'
'I've never heard of them, they mustn't be any good.'
'Carcass? Are they a screamo band, like Atreyu?'
'How can you listen to music with no singing?'
'Oh, my god, I love Nickelback so much!'
'They might be an awful band that sounds like shit fried in piss, but they're good live. People in the crowd punch each other. No hard feelings, though, it's just fun getting punched in the face. When I saw Elton John,nobody punched anyone else, he sucks.'
'You like Elton John? What, are you gay?'
'Why would you listen to something you can't dance to?'
'I listen to everything! Except for country, metal, rock, jazz, electronic, classical, prog, punk, avant-garde, the blues, folk, disco, funk, hip-hop, r'n'b, doo-wop, gospel, big band, ska, zeuhl, bluegrass, and shoegaze.'
'I just like to whatever's on the radio.'
'All ____ sounds the same.'
No. I most certainly was not calling The Glitch Mob "shitty dance-club trance". Haha.Vault101 said:
I love The Glitch Mob. They've some fantastic tracks. In general, though, much of their songs (especially on their album Drink the Sea) are a blend of Dubstep and other electronic genres.
However, Skrillex I can't stand. It may be because he is the poster-boy for the whole Bro-step movement, but honestly...I just don't like his music. I find most of his songs boring, uninspired, and abrasive (needlessly). The same can be said for how I feel about the sub-genre as a whole. I'd like to be proven wrong; and welcome any suggestions for good Bro-step musicians/songs/albums.
Though, I will admit I did like that one remix he did for the release of Syndicate.
indeed, hell they are like my "go to" group for defending the electronic genre as a whole,Vigormortis said:
hey..nickleback are underated! they are actually really good! my favorite song is "if eeryone cared" which is about if everyoen would judt care and be nice to each other then NO one would ever dieReginald said:
seriously their music is sooo deep!
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....*snrrrk*
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