Your thoughts on... Nerd/Geek culture of today.

[Gengisgame]

My point was, and is, that there are a lot of self appointed gatekeepers of nerd/geek culture and that Zontar accusing Wheaton and Day of bandwagoning is a perfect example of that.

Hey, if they're going to claim to be nerds (and in one case, the "Queen" of nerds) they're going to have to do a lot more then find ways of making money to convince me. Especially since both are openly hostile towards nerds when they come face to face with them. Until now, neither has done anything to warrant such belief that they are, in fact, nerds, and quite a bit to make one believe otherwise.

It's also ironic you complain about gatekeeping on my part. Last time I checked one of the biggest problems with nerd culture is the fact there's a (thankfully disorganized and done by incompetents) effort to drive nerds out of nerd culture.

Personally I can't wait for something else to take over consumer culture, because the sooner it happens the sooner these type of people will focus on something else and let nerd culture get back to being the way it was before we got into this odd state where things nerds like are popular but nerds are still social pariahs who get all society's problems blamed on by those who aren't blaming them on immigrants.

Dude above me is on the money, as in of itself Nerd culture is absolutely fine and although an individual nerd is no longer a target for liking games or comics as they once where (according to 80's/90's movies anyway) the group itself is an acceptable target and receives unfair attacks and criticism from without and from within by people who actually believe it's far worse than it actually is.

On these very forums today alone I've had someone attribute incredibly small minority opinions with nerd culture.

Realize that a lot of the hate you may have towards nerd culture is manufactured.

 

[ilikeyou]

The big bang theory hurt geek culture a lot. Suddenly everyone assumed that we were smart and had degrees. No. Some of us are just pathetic losers with borderline autism.

 

[ilikeyou]

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that.

edit: Wait I didnt imply that. What am I apologising for.

 

[Einspanner]

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I tried to keep it simple and say that the unofficial term was used and couldn't be pinned down. You didn't respond to it. Don't blame me for feeling that a more in depth explanation was needed

Hm...No. Geek culture has a lot of problems with it. But nerd being an object of ridicule? Nope. It hasn't been that way for a long time. The dictionary says otherwise? People don't care what the dictionary says, they assign their own meanings to words. It's why literally is basically it's own antonym now. You can say that nerd only exists to scorn, common use of the word begs to differ, no amount of pulling up definitions will change that.

Nerds aren't an object of ridicule? Rich, successful nerds, sure, but you can just append any noun after "Rich, successful" and get the same result.

Ree: Caitlyn Jenner.

Nowhere where they used to be. And to be perfectly frank I find that nerds do more horrible things to other nerds than people outside the group ever do.

In two posts you've gone from "But nerd being an object of ridicule? Nope. It hasn't been that way for a long time."

to

"Nowhere where they used to be" and some version of "They're doing it to themselves".

Which do you actually believe to be the case? Then we can get on with why you're wrong.

I made that post nearly a week ago. I didn't exactly remember it. Allow me to clarify. Yes sometimes people still poke fun at nerds. This rarely happens anymore, to the point where I don't really consider it to be a trend to worry about. It's barely a thing. Nerds lashing out at other nerds? Well...let's just say that there's a reason my resentment to the online gaming community grows every day.

-snipped question not aimed at me-

You said it, "Online gaming community".

Not "Nerds". There isn't really much of an overlap either.

 

[Zontar]

Realize that a lot of the hate you may have towards nerd culture is manufactured.

What gave you the impression I hate nerd culture, out of curiosity?

 

[Terminal Marque]

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I tried to keep it simple and say that the unofficial term was used and couldn't be pinned down. You didn't respond to it. Don't blame me for feeling that a more in depth explanation was needed

Hm...No. Geek culture has a lot of problems with it. But nerd being an object of ridicule? Nope. It hasn't been that way for a long time. The dictionary says otherwise? People don't care what the dictionary says, they assign their own meanings to words. It's why literally is basically it's own antonym now. You can say that nerd only exists to scorn, common use of the word begs to differ, no amount of pulling up definitions will change that.

Nerds aren't an object of ridicule? Rich, successful nerds, sure, but you can just append any noun after "Rich, successful" and get the same result.

Ree: Caitlyn Jenner.

Nowhere where they used to be. And to be perfectly frank I find that nerds do more horrible things to other nerds than people outside the group ever do.

In two posts you've gone from "But nerd being an object of ridicule? Nope. It hasn't been that way for a long time."

to

"Nowhere where they used to be" and some version of "They're doing it to themselves".

Which do you actually believe to be the case? Then we can get on with why you're wrong.

I made that post nearly a week ago. I didn't exactly remember it. Allow me to clarify. Yes sometimes people still poke fun at nerds. This rarely happens anymore, to the point where I don't really consider it to be a trend to worry about. It's barely a thing. Nerds lashing out at other nerds? Well...let's just say that there's a reason my resentment to the online gaming community grows every day.

Please. Tell me how I'm "wrong" as you so eloquently put it.

The vast majority of "online gamers" aren't nerds either, and if you can't keep track of your own arguments, it's a sign that you should take a break from making them.

They were going nowhere anyway.

 

[Erttheking]

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I tried to keep it simple and say that the unofficial term was used and couldn't be pinned down. You didn't respond to it. Don't blame me for feeling that a more in depth explanation was needed

Hm...No. Geek culture has a lot of problems with it. But nerd being an object of ridicule? Nope. It hasn't been that way for a long time. The dictionary says otherwise? People don't care what the dictionary says, they assign their own meanings to words. It's why literally is basically it's own antonym now. You can say that nerd only exists to scorn, common use of the word begs to differ, no amount of pulling up definitions will change that.

Nerds aren't an object of ridicule? Rich, successful nerds, sure, but you can just append any noun after "Rich, successful" and get the same result.

Ree: Caitlyn Jenner.

Nowhere where they used to be. And to be perfectly frank I find that nerds do more horrible things to other nerds than people outside the group ever do.

In two posts you've gone from "But nerd being an object of ridicule? Nope. It hasn't been that way for a long time."

to

"Nowhere where they used to be" and some version of "They're doing it to themselves".

Which do you actually believe to be the case? Then we can get on with why you're wrong.

I made that post nearly a week ago. I didn't exactly remember it. Allow me to clarify. Yes sometimes people still poke fun at nerds. This rarely happens anymore, to the point where I don't really consider it to be a trend to worry about. It's barely a thing. Nerds lashing out at other nerds? Well...let's just say that there's a reason my resentment to the online gaming community grows every day.

Please. Tell me how I'm "wrong" as you so eloquently put it.

The vast majority of "online gamers" aren't nerds either, and if you can't keep track of your own arguments, it's a sign that you should take a break from making them.

They were going nowhere anyway.

Oh great, we're doing the thing where we're limiting who can be a nerd. Let's be frank, the nerds who are online that I've made have tended to be stuck up assholes most of the time and way too much of the interaction nerds too online include elitism, hostility, tribalism and generally being an asshat. Majority of online gamers aren't nerds? Debatable. Highly debatable. Even then, too many of the nerds that are on are people that are insufferable.

Keep track of my own argument-I'm sorry...no I'm not sorry, I was under the impression that this thread was dead. I moved on from it. Then you necroed a thread that nobody had talked in for nearly a week. Of course I didn't remember it off of the top of my head.

 

[Terminal Marque]

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I tried to keep it simple and say that the unofficial term was used and couldn't be pinned down. You didn't respond to it. Don't blame me for feeling that a more in depth explanation was needed

Hm...No. Geek culture has a lot of problems with it. But nerd being an object of ridicule? Nope. It hasn't been that way for a long time. The dictionary says otherwise? People don't care what the dictionary says, they assign their own meanings to words. It's why literally is basically it's own antonym now. You can say that nerd only exists to scorn, common use of the word begs to differ, no amount of pulling up definitions will change that.

Nerds aren't an object of ridicule? Rich, successful nerds, sure, but you can just append any noun after "Rich, successful" and get the same result.

Ree: Caitlyn Jenner.

Nowhere where they used to be. And to be perfectly frank I find that nerds do more horrible things to other nerds than people outside the group ever do.

In two posts you've gone from "But nerd being an object of ridicule? Nope. It hasn't been that way for a long time."

to

"Nowhere where they used to be" and some version of "They're doing it to themselves".

Which do you actually believe to be the case? Then we can get on with why you're wrong.

I made that post nearly a week ago. I didn't exactly remember it. Allow me to clarify. Yes sometimes people still poke fun at nerds. This rarely happens anymore, to the point where I don't really consider it to be a trend to worry about. It's barely a thing. Nerds lashing out at other nerds? Well...let's just say that there's a reason my resentment to the online gaming community grows every day.

Please. Tell me how I'm "wrong" as you so eloquently put it.

The vast majority of "online gamers" aren't nerds either, and if you can't keep track of your own arguments, it's a sign that you should take a break from making them.

They were going nowhere anyway.

Oh great, we're doing the thing where we're limiting who can be a nerd. Let's be frank-

Yes, lets. Of course we're doing "the thing", it's called language. Otherwise every word would mean what every other word does, and "Nerd" would be no more meaningful than "Fpqfyed".

Now if you have nothing else except a circle you're walking between "You can't define 'Nerd'!", "Nerds aren't persecuted", and my favorite, "Nerds are the ones persecuting nerds!"... we're done.

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

I was going to participate but then I saw that "nerd" culture in this thread means "video games" culture.