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That's your assumption. Not every game needs it, but I am not going to throw a hissy fit about it, whenever it happens or not. I don't bother with a majority of Western AAA games any way, so it's a moot point for me.

Companies like Capcom, Sega, SNK, Namco, Platinum, or Square have either been doing diversity or not afraid of it for years, and only have improved upon their craft. This is especially true for Capcom and Sega. We've seen this in most of their fighting games, or other other genres/action games. None of them bothered with consultant companies much or not at all, but they either did their research or still sought outside help for accuracy on different races and cultures that have not been represented (well or as negative/lazy cliche stereotypes). Again, nothing wrong with that, and is helpful and useful. It show they care about the story, world, and characters they're making. It's why so many people enjoy Street Fighter 6 and its WT Mode. Also, this even more true with Virtua Fighter: Crossroads, and its single player, it's VS Mode, and new cast of characters, while older characters are still around (most of them who were 20 somethings during the 90s), but they are legends and are either in their late 50s or pushing 60.

Companies like them already gave me what I wanted, but I am not afraid to seek others out who do it right, and want to make a fun game at the end of the day that does not screw people over. I like these guys or tolerate them enough, but they should be the only ones, nor should would always expect them to be the only ones in town to do it. It's why I love indie and AA. You're getting people from all walks of life, with different viewpoints and perspectives, and I would not have it any other way.
Why not just hire somone who is diverse? Why give another company a lengthly costly contract, or better yet don't layoff people who have unique opinions. Also SBI's founders opinion are not interesting. Not having open-world games is a opinion shared by many, having african-american pairings in mass effect in a game vs a character selector in a story driven game is not interesting, and likely not orginal.
 

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Why not just hire somone who is diverse?
That's basically what I am advocating for, and what implied about most of the Japanese developers. Or why I prefer indie and AA. Most of them hired people that are diverse (or already diverse within their own development team and have the background and cultural knowledge for their game) and are either contract, solo, or part of a smaller group. It doesn't have to be from a company, but I don't discriminate when the goal is proper representation or people of color as people. The same for any other groups and minorities.
 
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That's basically what I am advocating for, and what implied about most of the Japanese developers. Or why I prefer indie and AA. Most of them hired people that are diverse (or already diverse within their own development team and have the background and cultural knowledge for their game) and are either contract, solo, or part of a smaller group. It doesn't have to be from a company, but I don't discriminate when the goal is proper representation or people of color as people or any other groups and minorities.
Their financial/market moats are temporary, and what happened with Chinese gachas will happen with their AA and AAA games. Eventually their declining population, traditionalism, and dislike of change will be their undoing, and it will be the same with Chinese Gachas, and their AAA and AA sector if they follow Japan's path. I think Poland, and SK/South Korea will be able to avoid these by focusing on innovation so long as their salaries are too crazy. It's easy to create black desert online character creator you just need to make faces more conventionally attractive via symmetry, and smooth polygons. The issue is American finalization, rent-seeking, and middlemen. GTA6 for example will beat every game on the market, and have a conventionally attractive female character which will be like a nuke on Asian game companies.

In the long run having diversity is a good thing, but the best developers, graphics artists, writers aren't corporate or gifters in it for the cash. they do it out it out of passion. Allot of liberals who are 'woke' do alongside existing power stuctures, and are fiscally conservative, and socially liberal which in my opinion despite everyone here thinking I am the same thing is a highly destructive combination, and frankly a boring one. I don't need 500 karens telling me to be politically correct, but also that taxes are bad, and the way to solve long run social problem is still to have homeless people, but to hire a few people who are diverse to market the company better to shareholders. Don't get me wrong people who are fisically, and socially conservative are worse, but they aren't in power(Minus a fewer in the Trump admin who Trump uses to hold sticks over the American populace), and can't form alliances with anyone, but people who are reactionaries.
 

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What has Sweet Baby Inc actually taken away from it? From everything I can see it seems like Sweet Baby is just a right wing bug bear for their moronic culture warriors.
When one minus the fact they are a lightning rod for a game to be controversial culture war fights that detract from increasing the amount of people enjoying the art, aren't liberal; and tranparent with their dealings and act more like dark money group which opens the way for Gamergate folk to mirror them, worse take way from investments inside of a company like hiring more staff, and even push against liberalism in general. Their writng, and consultation doesn't add anything interesting and orginal. When was the last time they stated something orginal other than we need more BIPOC, people in color, woman, and LGBTQ characters in a game of which these opinions already exist in-house.
 

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Their financial/market moats are temporary, and what happened with Chinese gachas will happen with their AA and AAA games.
Considering how well AA is doing, I doubt that. No place is perfect, but that is why I don't bother with majority of AAA nor gacha games in general I don't need gachas at all, and most AAA are already compromised to begin with. You're really saying nothing new in that regard. You worry about whatever else goes on in your world. I got better concerns right now.
 
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Considering how well AA is doing, I doubt that. No place is perfect, but that is why I don't bother with majority of AAA nor gacha games in general I don't need gachas at all, and most AAA are already compromised to begin with. You're really saying nothing new in that regard. You would worry about whatever else goes on in your world. I got better concerns right now.
It's summer semester, and I already am done with all course-work this week, and what I am saying is not new, and is considered weird. Also AAA games are marvels of technology and this is someone who is looking for more Undertale like games, and indie games that tell an interesting story about the human condition.
 

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Nothing weird about calling the bullshit that is AAA. Anyone got a problem with that criticism, they either sycophants, boot lickers without an original though in their head, or the ones in charge fucking it all up in the first place. They go fuck themselves.

On to different take: Virtua Fighter Crossroads will have the best single player campaign for a fighting game ever made. As much as I liked World Tour mode at the time, it loss its luster and got too repetitive, and the main story is bad. Personal/character side quests aside
 

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Nothing weird about calling the bullshit that is AAA. Anyone got a problem with that criticism, they either sycophants, boot lickers without an original though in their head, or the ones in charge fucking it all up in the first place. They go fuck themselves.

On to different take: Virtua Fighter Crossroads will have the best single player campaign for a fighting game ever made. As much as I liked World Tour mode at the time, it loss its luster and got too repetitive, and the main story is bad. Personal/character side quests aside
Most people don't like change. That's what considered weird. Diversity is change, innovation is change. Both need each other.

On another note even weirder note...

There is no such thing as Degenerate art, it's a concept invented by the Nazis.


This should apply equally in my opinion to misogyny art/anti woman/art/so called non-con games and the LGBTQ games, and anti-fascist games. The one line I disagree with is children. That's where I draw the line. But 18 years olds in FICTIONAL art and above should be legal. Is it weird yes, but so are sex dolls, and those legal.
 
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Most people don't like change. That's what considered weird.
Sucks to be them. Change happens for better and/or worse. It has already happened for better when talking about diversity and games coming from more than just America, Canada, Japan, or parts of Western Europe. A few bitches who can't accept (and constantly cry on social media don't count) that are losing their stranglehold or already lost it. Some know it, others are in-denial and can't handle the truth. That is why its important to help the young ones and let them go their own path and do good to the best of their abilities. They're gonna make mistakes of course, but it's a matter of how bad, and what they're going to do to learn from it, or to make up for it.
 

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Most people don't like change. That's what considered weird. Diversity is change, innovation is change. Both need each other.

On another note even weirder note...

There is no such thing as Degenerate art, it's a concept invented by the Nazis.


This should apply equally in my opinion to misogyny art/anti woman/art/so called non-con games and the LGBTQ games, and anti-fascist games. The one line I disagree with is children. That's where I draw the line. But 18 years olds in FICTIONAL art and above should be legal. Is it weird yes, but so are sex dolls, and those legal.
The only line I feel should not be crossed with art is when it is actively harmful to the subject matter directly. I may not personally support some other forms of art, due to my own standards, but I will not argue that it should flat-out not exist unless that particular line is crossed.
 
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Whatever, just wash your hands.
When one minus the fact they are a lightning rod for a game to be controversial culture war fights that detract from increasing the amount of people enjoying the art, aren't liberal; and tranparent with their dealings and act more like dark money group which opens the way for Gamergate folk to mirror them, worse take way from investments inside of a company like hiring more staff, and even push against liberalism in general. Their writng, and consultation doesn't add anything interesting and orginal. When was the last time they stated something orginal other than we need more BIPOC, people in color, woman, and LGBTQ characters in a game of which these opinions already exist in-house.
What the fuck are you talking about? You don't need some dark money group to start a culture war, you just need some retard who wants clicks to make a video about dei or woke or some made up bullshit term that somehow gains traction with idiots.
 

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I don't know how much the Ingredient quality of UK's Domino's Pizza Branch is, but in the US they are by far the worst chain pizza place. Papa Johns, Pizza-hut, and local places all beat them.
While I've never had US dominos and am not a fan of takeaway food at all myself, every American I've heard talk about UK dominoes has said they're far better than US.

There you go, that's my contribution to gaming discussion, a second hand comparison of transatlantic pizza quality.
 
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While I've never had US dominos and am not a fan of takeaway food at all myself, every American I've heard talk about UK dominoes has said they're far better than US.

There you go, that's my contribution to gaming discussion, a second hand comparison of transatlantic pizza quality.
People tell me that a lot of the difference is down to ingredient quality. Like Dominoes and Pizza Hut are bottom of the barrel takeaway pizza - barely considered a step above a frozen supermarket pizza - but I mean, they're fine. Not worth the money paid most of the time in my case - nearly $30 a pizza delivered, fuck off Dominos.
 
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Whatever, just wash your hands.
People tell me that a lot of the difference is down to ingredient quality. Like Dominoes and Pizza Hut are bottom of the barrel takeaway pizza - barely considered a step above a frozen supermarket pizza - but I mean, they're fine. Not worth the money paid most of the time in my case - nearly $30 a pizza delivered, fuck off Dominos.
Frozen pizza can vary wildly in quality.
 
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