orangeban said:
xvbones said:
Count Igor said:
or mature 15 year olds (I say 15 as it's close to 16)
There is no such thing as a 'mature' 15 year old.
15 year old claiming to be mature are precisely as immature as 15 year olds with no illusions about their inexperience and immaturity.
Unless that 15 year old was brought up in a war zone or has otherwise spent the majority of their life taking care of themselves and/or others, in which case that 15 year old would likely not be on this forum, discussing such frivolous things as 'when fucking is appropriate', they would be in the process of taking care of themselves and/or others.
I mean no offense to any teenagers in this thread or on this forum who think that being well-read, reasonable or intelligent is the same as 'mature.'
It isn't.
You're not.
It's to do with your life and experience:
At 15, you've spent about 3 years, tops, with any responsibility whatsoever, if that, you've had almost no life experience and have barely had time to make any catastrophic mistakes to learn from (the process called 'growing up.')
As for whether or not you're ready to have sex, that's nobody's business but yours, hers and your parents. Talk it over with them.
And wear a fucking condom.
I don't think you can wave of all 15 year olds as not being mature (even if we don't count those who grew up in war zones or who looked after themselves totally alone).
We all learn from experiences in different ways, some take petty mistakes and learn huge amounts, some lose limbs and learn nothing. 3 years of life experience could be more than enough for some, 30 years can be lacking for others. There is no magical point where you've had enough experience to be mature.
Besides, maturity is just about knowing how to react sensibly to things, common sense and (effectively) tact. It isn't some worldly wisdom that can only be picked up by living for decades.
Actually, I can wave all the 15 year olds off as not being mature because they aren't. Maturity isn't wisdom, wisdom is wisdom (15 year olds do not have wisdom either, as they have not been alive long enough to accumulate it), what maturity is, see, is
maturity.
The word 'mature' literally means 'aged'. 'Fully grown'. 'Your personal peak of physical an mental development.' Taken literally or metaphorically, at 15 you have miles and miles to go. You have barely started. You are not even
expected to be mature for another six years, nor are you likely to be especially mature even then.
You also need to understand, I'm not saying that the inherent immaturity of a young teenager (who in America is really not actually legally responsible for his own actions, cannot vote, cannot drink, cannot fight for his country, cannot legally hold most jobs) is a bad thing, nor that young teens are bad for their inherent immaturity. It goes with the territory, it is part of being human.
At 15, see, what you are is
hormonal.
Let me put this in terms easily understood by this forum:
At 15, you are a
noob.
You went through puberty at most 4 years ago, more likely
three.
Your junk has only been in a functional state for less years you have fingers on your favorite hand.
Three years ago, you were in the age range
Jar-Jar Binks was aimed at.
Ten years ago you were barely capable of forming complete sentences.
There are people who have been striving for
decades to achieve true emotional maturity, do you honestly think you have it all figured out after
three years?
With respect, you are a noob.
A lowbie, attempting to pretend you are no different than an endgame raider, but you're not.
Not because you lack the logic, the reasoning or intellectual capacity, because
you have seen almost nothing of the content.
Your gear is shit and your build is rudimentary and incomplete, it will be
years before you even know enough about yourself to fully form
your own personality.
You are
still leveling.
(btw, wear the fucking condom.
Also, everyone else in the world has felt the exact same drippy, butterflies-in-the-stomach omgsheismyentireworld that you are, you're not hardly the only one and everybody else does actually know precisely what you're going through, because they either have already gone through it or they in the process of going through it.
When it ends, for fuck's sake don't write poetry about it.
And if you write the fucking poetry, for fuck's sake keep that shit hidden, do not ever let anyone else read it, it's not deep, it's not beautiful, it doesn't reveal your tormented soul, all it does is make people avoid you because unless your name is Byron, your weepy, sorrowful poetry will invariably be wretched, godawful shit that will never stop embarrassing you.)
