Zero Punctuation: Aliens vs Predator
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Kinda weak there yaz, I suppose it would be to easy to pick on the games weakness's more than complain about the 3 race focus of it.
The alien needs a slow mo mode in order for the player to control them better,predator needs more armor he should be the toughest of the lot and his story mode should be based on kills and making skull totems and hanging skinned corpses and such.
I mean really the basics of each race is easy one is trying to recover/secure the base/area the other one is trying to make it into a nest and use any intruders as means to make more of themselves. And lastly you have the ultimate hunter...its not that hard a setup to mess up......
The alien needs a slow mo mode in order for the player to control them better,predator needs more armor he should be the toughest of the lot and his story mode should be based on kills and making skull totems and hanging skinned corpses and such.
I mean really the basics of each race is easy one is trying to recover/secure the base/area the other one is trying to make it into a nest and use any intruders as means to make more of themselves. And lastly you have the ultimate hunter...its not that hard a setup to mess up......
He probably never will remember Yahtzee and his hatred for QTE ever since it stole his girlfriend and he failed the QTE necessary to win her back?Octopusesgarden said:
Mix that with Heavy Rain being basically QTE home turf and you got Yahtzee's next Too Human. However I hope he still reviews it seeing as the game is quite good both in immersion and intrigue.
Well he seems to hate QTEs only when unexpected like the first uncharted wich only had four small ones1337mokro said:
Agreed!dark666105 said:
I've been playing the demo (Ramay Sitara) and I've found that everything Yahtzee has said in the review video is true. I've also been enjoying the gameplay mostly as an Xenomorph and a Predator. Playing as a Marine is third rate even though one shotgun blast can down a Predator or Xenomorph and the other times you stand a chance is if you have the Marine Heavy Machine gun that needs a hydraulic arm for some reason but it has the HUD that can sense enemies similar to the Xenomorphs abilities...until you get killed cuz it's such an open area. I also think it's unnecessary to have the ability to disable the Predators charging station.
I too am an AvP fanboy and I can go on about everything I like and dislike in detail but everyone doesn't take the Zero Punctuation reviews to heart. We watch to know what possible frustrations are forecoming when we play and we have to just either deal with these revealed frustrations of the game or not play the game at all.SammiYin said:
"If you must use them at least make them a core part of the gameplay don't just throw them in randomly."Octopusesgarden said:
This and the multiple video games of Yahtzee VS QTE makes me assume he absolutely hates them unless done well and it doesn't help that Heavy Rain being made by the same guys from Indigo Prophecy which he actually uplifted to a gaming disease
.But We can only hope and spam his mail.
I just realized how funny watching Yahtzee review Heavy rain would be. Its just ONE BIG QUICK TIME EVENT!
yep, he said that it wouldn't be as bad if it was a whole gameplay based on it, so...^^Octopusesgarden said:
Because every time the xenomorphs in the original tetralogy go up against people with modern/futuristic firearms and the knowledge to use them properly (as opposed to frightened civilians who are having to jury-rig a defense together on the spot) they're slaughtered. Seriously, rewatch Aliens. The titular beasties die like the insects they resemble. If one ever gets within fifteen feet of you for any reason, you will die, but as long as you have ammo and can arrange things so that they can only attack from one direction, assault rifles will win the day.CheckD3 said:
On topic: I looked up Predator: Concrete Jungle because the talk in this thread piqued my interest... and the reviews are middling to terrible all around. This is a shame, because a pure Predator game has the potential to be excellent, and it writes itself.
"You're a yautja. You need to kill things to gain social status and impress the freakishly huge ladies of your species. Killing things with less weaponry is more badass and earns you more respect from your peers. Murder your way through a large variety of deadly alien creatures, possibly climaxing with the totally awesome duel from the first (actually good!) Alien vs Predator novel where the yautja in question fought an alien queen with nothing but claws and maybe a spear."
Not sure how this hasn't been made into a decent game yet.
Or, speaking of Arkham Asylum, there were not one but THREE Batman vs Predator comics the last time I checked, and they were all fairly decent. Why not adapt them? Admittedly, DC might have to give a little, let the Predator actually mutilate some people, but it could be pretty good. I'd buy it if it were anywhere near the level of Arkham Asylum.
I've always LOVED the AvP series. Right down to the comics and the movies. Well, not really the AvP movies. I thought they were TERRIBLE. I like aliens and the predator movies. Now that I think about it, tho. Both AvP 1 and 2 for the pc had horrible single player campaigns too. It was a great game at the time because it had a very unique multiplayer experience. This is really not the case anymore.
Personally, I was always an alien (the black, dribbly ones) so I was really looking forward to some intense alien-oriented action and I had the same problem Yahtzee did. I don't know HOW many times I wanted to pounce on someone outside a vent but just ended up doing circles instead. Then, I get to the damned opening (after flying across it a dozen times) and, instead of just dropping on top of him, I find myself wall-crawling across the ceiling above him. At this point I've lost my line of sight to him and he's, most likely, shooting me. Who cares what the story and such is like when the game play is this flawed.
Oh and, you won't sell me on the Predator or Marine game play. There's a million new games out there that have identical game play and are just WAY better. For that matter? Why the hell am I playing AvP, for the alien game play, when I can just go be a skulk in Natural-Selection?
What's up with you anyway, gaming industry? You're letting all your gamers down T_T
Personally, I was always an alien (the black, dribbly ones) so I was really looking forward to some intense alien-oriented action and I had the same problem Yahtzee did. I don't know HOW many times I wanted to pounce on someone outside a vent but just ended up doing circles instead. Then, I get to the damned opening (after flying across it a dozen times) and, instead of just dropping on top of him, I find myself wall-crawling across the ceiling above him. At this point I've lost my line of sight to him and he's, most likely, shooting me. Who cares what the story and such is like when the game play is this flawed.
Oh and, you won't sell me on the Predator or Marine game play. There's a million new games out there that have identical game play and are just WAY better. For that matter? Why the hell am I playing AvP, for the alien game play, when I can just go be a skulk in Natural-Selection?
Wow yeah that DOES sound really freaking awesome? So did the batman crossover you suggested. How hard would it be to make a bad guy Predator that DOESN'T follow the rules of the hunt and just goes around murdering innocents with his crazy energy guns. Then batman can team up with a goodly predator to bring him to justice.Chaotic Neutral said:
What's up with you anyway, gaming industry? You're letting all your gamers down T_T
To be perfectly honest the game is just a remake of the first AvP from way back, a decent attempt at a remake but one that ultimately failed due to American desensitization. However I find it rather difficult to agree with what Zero said about it taking elements from previous games, given the previously mentioned game (Doom 3) took those very same elements from the first AvP.
Now, for those of you saying you're glad for not buying it, shame on you, it's still a very good game with some challenging multi-player... when you can find a damn game that is lol
But seriously though, I guess the main reason it failed was lack of any real reward system, like in Modern Warfare 2 or MAG.
Now, for those of you saying you're glad for not buying it, shame on you, it's still a very good game with some challenging multi-player... when you can find a damn game that is lol
But seriously though, I guess the main reason it failed was lack of any real reward system, like in Modern Warfare 2 or MAG.
You mean like a... Bad Blood perhaps? Forget the term but there are yautja that go against the rules, but few really care how many innocent prey items they kill, Bad Bloods are usually bad because they murdered some important Yautja or somethin like that.
It's so sad too see a game that was supposed to be a nice remake/continuation of the '99 AVP game. Throughout the game I felt as i was playing an add on for Chronicles of Riddick, having 2 aliens pitch against each other in a bar melee brawl. I mean really wtf? Predators Plasma canon lasts for 2-3 shots that are going to hit. Alien is made of paper when you play it, but they take half of pulse rifle magazine/4 hits by Predator to fall. The story is way too generic and campaign too short. Also Alien = Predator in campaign. Marine is survival horror with elements of RACISM. -1 out of 10. Great review
