Hmm. But nobody expected an actual sequel did they?
Everyone just wanted 'more' of Bioshock. Never could quite work that one out actually. Maybe I shouldn't have played it on the PC.
Yeah, I didnt really give a damn about the sequel either way. It sounds samey and uninspired. I had enough Bioshock the first go around. Played it once to see the story and then shelved it permanently. Not buying/illegally downloading Bioshock 2. Don't care. : )
You know, this could be the most immersive ZP review ever.
Seriously, I was watching and while Yahtzee was going on about Bioshock expanding upon the first, I started to get excited. Wait a minute, "This isn't just a tacked on joke to captitalize on fans of the first? Maybe I should forget all my misgivings and check it out rather then just replaying the first".
Oh wait, nope, never mind. As much as I'm always somewhat vindicated to be right all along, it was nice for a moment to think the game wasn't a waste of my time.
So, going back to my previous stance of, "I'll wait until it's on bargain bin, if not skip entirely."
Ok, whoever suggested a bioshock prequel, they made one. it was called system shock. I guess that this game should really be called system shock 2-2. I see a game box ballerina dancing around already.
what kind ad was that, how screen is covered. with a tiny video in the center.
also ad is misinforming. i still cant download the game off steam. not everybody lives in usa. europe exists goddamit.
Amusing review. I knew Yahtzee would trash it, and was not disappointed.
Unfortunately, while he is entitled to his opinion, I disagree with it. I enjoyed the living hell out of Bioshock 2, and already have played it through twice. I got pretty good value out of my purchase, I think.
Some refined gameplay mechanics? Check
Some new gameplay mechanics to 'freshen up' things? Check
New locations that remain asthetically faithful to the original? Check
New plot, that stays thematically faithful to the original? Check
Same high production values as the original? Check
...and I could go on.
Now, obviously some ret-conning is going to have to happen, because the first game left little in the way of flexibilty for continuation, but it wasn't nearly as bad as Yahtzee made it out to be.
A perfect example of how Yahtzee is completely off-base on some of these points? There's a series of audio logs that specifically explain why the prototype Big Daddy (the player) is so much more powerful than what ended up as the "production" Big Daddy, namely:
that the prototype was too powerful and uncontrollable, killing orderlies and throwing off the mental conditioning Ryan and Lamb (who you discover were originally working together to create the Big Daddies, much like Tenenbaum pioneered the Little Sisters) were developing to compliment Suchong's physical upgrades. They dumbed the final version of the Big Daddies down so they could be more easily controlled. (and also took away the ability for them to use plasmids)
The point is: the info was there if you cared to look for it. Clearly, Yahtzee doesn't have time to actually thoroughly play a game; instead, he has to rip right through them as fast as possible looking for elements he can excoriate, rather than provide a legitimate, in-depth review.
Which is exactly why I consider his 'reviews' to not be informational, but simple entertainment.
High five. Agree with you every step of the way. You have to take his reviews with a pinch of salt because, well... it's all about ripping the shit out of a thing; That's exactly why people watch them. Plus I don't think he has the physical capacity to enjoy anything in life because he's an evil man filled with hatred, spite, oozing with venom and bile BUT I think the sweet hat cancels out about 98% of that.
While I always appreciate Yahtzee's critique it has been a little while since I LOL'd at one of them. (Even "beats the fuck out of me" was more an intellectual appreciation of a smart joke than actual laughter.) Nice to see the LOL moments back in this one.
No, you're not the only one. For a second I thought the internet was screwed up.
Back to the game, I wonder why Yahtzee never mentioned being able to use both weapons and plasmids at the same time? For me, it's got to be the best feature, besides the new and improved hacking system. Plus there's just something that gets to me about being able to use the trademark Big Daddy drill. As opposed to the wrench.
Oh look, it's a big ZP banner that links you to a huge advertisement with a video on top of it! How subtle.
I liked Bioshock 2, but I have to agree about the way they pull every plot mechanic out of ADAM's ass. It doesn't just do genetic reconfiguration but also genetic memory, telepathic connection, plasmids from trace elements and whatnot? The hell?
Is anyone else unable to watch because of the Battlefield 2 pop up? Seriously, what was wrong with the way the ads were played before? I can't get my new Yahtzee fix now.
Nice review and very well put, although you could have made it 3 minutes shorter and said "Bioshock 2 is shit, don't get it" and the point would have been the exact same without all the icing for the cake.
Next week I know, I just KNOW, you're preparing to review Battlefield: Badcompany 2, but how about instead you review Supreme Commander 2 instead of another lame ass mainstream shooter. Please, think about it.
Amusing review. I knew Yahtzee would trash it, and was not disappointed.
Unfortunately, while he is entitled to his opinion, I disagree with it. I enjoyed the living hell out of Bioshock 2, and already have played it through twice. I got pretty good value out of my purchase, I think.
Some refined gameplay mechanics? Check
Some new gameplay mechanics to 'freshen up' things? Check
New locations that remain asthetically faithful to the original? Check
New plot, that stays thematically faithful to the original? Check
Same high production values as the original? Check
...and I could go on.
Now, obviously some ret-conning is going to have to happen, because the first game left little in the way of flexibilty for continuation, but it wasn't nearly as bad as Yahtzee made it out to be.
A perfect example of how Yahtzee is completely off-base on some of these points? There's a series of audio logs that specifically explain why the prototype Big Daddy (the player) is so much more powerful than what ended up as the "production" Big Daddy, namely:
that the prototype was too powerful and uncontrollable, killing orderlies and throwing off the mental conditioning Ryan and Lamb (who you discover were originally working together to create the Big Daddies, much like Tenenbaum pioneered the Little Sisters) were developing to compliment Suchong's physical upgrades. They dumbed the final version of the Big Daddies down so they could be more easily controlled. (and also took away the ability for them to use plasmids)
The point is: the info was there if you cared to look for it. Clearly, Yahtzee doesn't have time to actually thoroughly play a game; instead, he has to rip right through them as fast as possible looking for elements he can excoriate, rather than provide a legitimate, in-depth review.
Which is exactly why I consider his 'reviews' to not be informational, but simple entertainment.
Agreed but I disagree with your excuse-for-Yahtzee. I spent less than 7hrs in the single player and really Yahtzee's "OMG T3H STORY POINTS" show a distinct lack of effort. A lot of the things he said were rubbish (e.g. Little Sisters being protected by Big Sisters) were quite clearly pointed out.
The Big Sisters are tasked with looking after the Little Sisters, not to mention their instability due to high ADAM exposure.
You can play the audio logs as you go along (i.e. you don't need to pause the game to listen to them), and I would suspect Yahtzee ignored this feature for some reason.
Is anyone else unable to watch because of the Battlefield 2 pop up? Seriously, what was wrong with the way the ads were played before? I can't get my new Yahtzee fix now.
I haven't played the first Bioshock, so I figured I would just play the second. Sorta how my friend suggested I skip Assassin's Creed and just play the sequel.
Except Bioshock 2 now sounds like rehashed garbage and AC2 actually played better than its predecessor.
To be fair it is a good game... but the first was so good that Bioshock 2 just doesn't live up to the hype
Definetly play the first but don;t put off playing the second one because it is still good... I just felt as though the horror and suspense of the first game isn;t there, after all you're a big daddy with a sweet-ass drill You get great satisfaction when drilling a splicer's face... or maybe I'm just violent and psychotic
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