Zero Punctuation: BioShock 2
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ok this is going to sound like a fan rant, and yes i am a fan of both yahtzee and bioshock so i think i have to poke at this one abit. Honestly i can see where any problems people can have with bioshock 2 can stem and its a pretty big thing. The Story though is not one of these problems. Its more of a disconnected story acting as a mirror of the first game, not so much a sequel. And iv heard the 'why is the prototype better?' arguement so many times i want to gag. The game was pretty open about why, it was budget cuts and the general fact that dumber big daddies were needed to make sure they didnt go insane when accidents happened.
The game isnt perfect, far from it but it all worked...except for the defending little sister bits. The big sister popping up when you saved them though was easily explained, they were under the control of lamb who didnt want you getting rid of little sisters, and for the damsel in distress talking through the little sisters...yeah that was a 'dont think too hard...adam made me do it...look jingly keys!' but quite honestly worse has been done and if this didnt say bioshock as a title it would have been claimed by yes i even think yahtzee as one of the best games of the year...until fallout new vegas comes out.
The biggest problems you see with yahtzees reviews is because he obviously doesnt review for people who actually spend 3x the normal play trying to find everything in the story, And theres nothing wrong with that. hes funny, witty and is generally spot on. This is the second review i ever disagreed with and the other was his hatred of resident evil which i still say had a great story...if you spend 40 extra hours looking for it...which ill admit is bad game design
The game isnt perfect, far from it but it all worked...except for the defending little sister bits. The big sister popping up when you saved them though was easily explained, they were under the control of lamb who didnt want you getting rid of little sisters, and for the damsel in distress talking through the little sisters...yeah that was a 'dont think too hard...adam made me do it...look jingly keys!' but quite honestly worse has been done and if this didnt say bioshock as a title it would have been claimed by yes i even think yahtzee as one of the best games of the year...until fallout new vegas comes out.
The biggest problems you see with yahtzees reviews is because he obviously doesnt review for people who actually spend 3x the normal play trying to find everything in the story, And theres nothing wrong with that. hes funny, witty and is generally spot on. This is the second review i ever disagreed with and the other was his hatred of resident evil which i still say had a great story...if you spend 40 extra hours looking for it...which ill admit is bad game design
i think in borderlands he had something to say about pattern recognition. and the multiplayer was basic. the story was pretty good if you look for the audio tapessumguitardude said:
"Grr! Your selfless compassion fills me with murder frenzy!" I'm totally gonna randomly yell that out from now on. I love me some random quotes.
I really liked Bioshock 2, because the ending was far better than the first one's, and because the fighting was pretty intense. (even if it was kinda ridiculous- a guy with a wrench takes away half my life with one hit? What the fuck? I'm made of fucking steel!)
Nice rewiev BTW, had meg laughing a couple times.
Nice rewiev BTW, had meg laughing a couple times.
I wonder something and most likely someone else has mentioned this but I don't have the patience to read through 2000+ comments to see it.
If Yahtzee is constantly nitpicking video games that are good to play but not perfect, (I mean honestly there is not a single game that cannot be nitpicked) does that mean that he has to purposely make himself hate nearly every game he reviews? I think that would suck because the purpose of video games is to enjoy yourself and/or others.
When I watch his reviews I find them funny but mostly I cannot take them seriously because his goal is purely to nitpick the minor details and exploit the main ones. Still a very funny bloke.
If Yahtzee is constantly nitpicking video games that are good to play but not perfect, (I mean honestly there is not a single game that cannot be nitpicked) does that mean that he has to purposely make himself hate nearly every game he reviews? I think that would suck because the purpose of video games is to enjoy yourself and/or others.
When I watch his reviews I find them funny but mostly I cannot take them seriously because his goal is purely to nitpick the minor details and exploit the main ones. Still a very funny bloke.
Though I enjoyed the game, I can also understand most of the points. I mean, not everyone follwed Meltzer online, so the emotional impact of his fate is fairly dependent on how much you wanted to enjoy the game before it even came out. On top of which, this is Yahtzee's job; trying to find all the recordings can be tedious if you also have a deadline. I'm not sure which of the four endings he got, but I don't suppose it matters much.
Personally, I'm a bleeding heart; things like Eleanor saving her mother or the little boy that left a rose for a little sister get me to cry like a baby whose candy has just been stolen. But, again, that's not going to hook everyone.
But, if I may point out one thing, it will be this; there is an entire level showing what would happen if someone had everyone else's memories put into them. One of the morality choices depends on whether or not you kill the horribly mutated thing in the tank.
Personally, I'm a bleeding heart; things like Eleanor saving her mother or the little boy that left a rose for a little sister get me to cry like a baby whose candy has just been stolen. But, again, that's not going to hook everyone.
But, if I may point out one thing, it will be this; there is an entire level showing what would happen if someone had everyone else's memories put into them. One of the morality choices depends on whether or not you kill the horribly mutated thing in the tank.
If you see his review of the first Bioshock he tells you that nobody likes it when he's being nice. So, yes, he focuses on every little nitpick he can find.Westy215 said:
I found this review to be alittle bit too much nitpicking aswell, but there's so many fun lines you can't avoid loving it.
PS: If you take a look at the orange box review, then you'll see he can't criticize portal.
There was this side story in bioshock 2 about a man who uncovers all these clues about the whereabouts of his daughter, and eventually he finds rapture and he undergoes the big daddy transformation to be with her. My point is; why is a side story better written than the main narrative? Bioshock 2's story was like the plot of a b-grade frankenstein remake.