Zero Punctuation: Child of Day-Light - Horror and Whimsy
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At least they don't use ye Olde Englishe.
Dentist of Ice and Badger of Earth
That was really nice, it brought me great mirth
Of course if it was a SMT game you'd also have to deal with Confusion Jeep and Instant-Death Wallaby at the same time.
Dentist of Ice and Badger of Earth
That was really nice, it brought me great mirth
Of course if it was a SMT game you'd also have to deal with Confusion Jeep and Instant-Death Wallaby at the same time.
I think child of light's problem is that there just isn't enough customization involved. Even RPGs we consider 'old school turn based rpgs' like FF3 and Dragon's Quest had leagues of customization involved to the point where you could play through the game your whole life and never truly run out of combinations of powers, jobs, and abilities that you hadn't beaten the game with.
Also the concept of a boss cohort known as "Ice Dentist" completely slayed me for some reason. Especially if he was just this really professional looking guy whose only crime in life was to be born with blue skin and a hatred of tooth decay.
Also the concept of a boss cohort known as "Ice Dentist" completely slayed me for some reason. Especially if he was just this really professional looking guy whose only crime in life was to be born with blue skin and a hatred of tooth decay.
HA! YES! Way to rip into the crappy poetry they forced into the the dialogue. Yahtzee's a poet, so of course he'd be pissed off at some hack writer butchering it.
If anyone's allowed to speak in rhyme, only one can.
And that is, my friends, the DC demon Etrigan!
If anyone's allowed to speak in rhyme, only one can.
And that is, my friends, the DC demon Etrigan!
Someone's finally getting some use out of that vestigial college credit poetry course they took in college. You can hear that hefty tuition justifying itself as we speak.
I've seen Child of Light's combat system, and I recall another bugging thing: it is based on speed values that leave you waiting for when you or your enemy can attack, like in SNES Final Fantasy games. It's a real stop-and-start battle system that gets dull like the way Borderlands (2) gets dull, as Yahtzee said. Turn-based battles ought to be fast: at least as fast as Pokemon's "enemy slides over, enemy cries, you send out leading Pokemon, it cries, and then scroll after scroll of text for explanation show up as the battle carries on" rigamarole and hopefully as fast as Earthbound's "if enemy is too weak, you win; if not, get to the A-button spam with fast text and win with a scratch or two" system.
I've seen him do better. A LOT. There's one of his reviews he did all in rhyme, and his rhyme-down with Jim...Ken_J said:
Hmm, I hope Yahtzee will go into his opinion of Child of Light more in next weeks Extra Punctuation. Cause it didn't really seem like a full review of the game, unless he feels that there's not much to say about it either. I will however always appreciate it when he mentions that he may not be of the target audience of the game he is reviewing, cause I often like to listen to an outsiders perspective on a particular genre.
Funny how every game which gets critical acclaim must immediately be either the Second Coming or Most Overrated Shit Ever, with no middle ground.
I'm enjoying Child of Light. Its horrible poetry is grating, true. The puzzles are piss-easy and the battles are disjointed, true (well, it is a JRPG, so what can you expect)... But I find it a perfect relaxing game after a day at work. It's easy, it doesn't require a lot of thinking, and it has a soothing storybook aesthetic. I've never been much for the indie darlings, but I'm having more fun with CoL than I had since dicking around the Caribbean in AC4. Even if the rhyming is horrible and THE SAME JOKE GETS REPEATED EVERY FUCKING TIME THE JESTER SPEAKS.
So yeah, it's a good 7-8 out of 10 to me. Relaxing. Soothing. Not the greatest thing since sliced bread. Not the target for hipster hate.
I'm enjoying Child of Light. Its horrible poetry is grating, true. The puzzles are piss-easy and the battles are disjointed, true (well, it is a JRPG, so what can you expect)... But I find it a perfect relaxing game after a day at work. It's easy, it doesn't require a lot of thinking, and it has a soothing storybook aesthetic. I've never been much for the indie darlings, but I'm having more fun with CoL than I had since dicking around the Caribbean in AC4. Even if the rhyming is horrible and THE SAME JOKE GETS REPEATED EVERY FUCKING TIME THE JESTER SPEAKS.
So yeah, it's a good 7-8 out of 10 to me. Relaxing. Soothing. Not the greatest thing since sliced bread. Not the target for hipster hate.
Holy hell, i nearly woke my roommate. That ending had me in stichtes like only a few episodes. Hm, but seems my suspicions about Child of Light are correct. It appeared a little "i wanna be like them" too while sitting infront of BoI, Bastion and Limbo.
Meh, it's not that expensive though so i'll still give it a shot most likely.
Meh, it's not that expensive though so i'll still give it a shot most likely.
For me I am enjoying Child of Light I find that for the rhyming it can be hit and miss. During the main plot points it is usually on point but in the middle of that its a toss up but knowing how people cry about game makers not going outside the box I least give them a clap for effort.
I also find the battle system perfect just the right tone of simple yet dynamic without the need to be pretentiously complex for no reason the PS2 rpg era left me burnt.
I do agree with others that said its pretty straight forward nothing really in the customization department. Honestly keep the battle system and expand on the rpg mechanics on a Final Fantasy or Dragonquest level add a little more length and it would be a pretty good 20 dollar title I would scoop up again.
I also find the battle system perfect just the right tone of simple yet dynamic without the need to be pretentiously complex for no reason the PS2 rpg era left me burnt.
I do agree with others that said its pretty straight forward nothing really in the customization department. Honestly keep the battle system and expand on the rpg mechanics on a Final Fantasy or Dragonquest level add a little more length and it would be a pretty good 20 dollar title I would scoop up again.
I've had similar thoughts. I've also think of maybe using one of those professional criminals that breaks into places to rip out all the fixtures, piping, and wiring to sell for scrap. That person goes running around, finds an unmolested house that's been abandoned and figures "jackpot" only to find out nobody has stripped the place because it's haunted.Muspelheim said:
I've also sort of wanted to subvert some of the Asylum tropes, which tends to always come down to "cruel, sadistic, doctors tormenting innocent people with archaic science" followed by the reveal that the protagonist is either descended from one of the workers, or patients. While some vaguely similar things have been done, doing something where say the occult-obsessed doctors were basically keeping things/people imprisoned that needed to be, and setting the protagonist up to wind up dealing with the spirits and monsters by re-administering their seals and "treatments" to prevent them from further leaking out. Perhaps have the protagonist recruited to do this job professionally or something. See a monster, find the treatment records, figure out how to re-imprison it. Of course a lot of this comes from the simple fact that within this genera when the "pitiable" spirits are running around murdering the co-eds it becomes to have a lot of sympathy for the situation, especially if the background is like "well, the evil doctor, did things to this guy who was an evil child murderer which caused his spirit to be enraged" which makes sense since this is a facility where they treated the criminally insane, and somehow there is some unspoken assumsion that I'm supposed to somehow be sympathetic. A few things have come close by having the spirit of some good ghost or doctor show up, but nothing had ever gone full tilt with an idea sort of like this.
I think a lot of old ideas could be given fresh spins, and a lot of that would be in simply coming up with more varied protagonists. That isn't to say a bunch of dumb partying co-eds or teenagers isn't still fun, but it does get old., as does the person with memory loss who is deeply connected to the evil.
Got to watch out for earth badger and ice dentist. They are some bad arse dudes.
I found Child of Light to be really refreshing. That said I play it in between bouts of Titanfall, so I guess it's like taking a downer after an upper and leveling yourself out. Doesn't hurt that the main character has the same name as my daughter.
I found Child of Light to be really refreshing. That said I play it in between bouts of Titanfall, so I guess it's like taking a downer after an upper and leveling yourself out. Doesn't hurt that the main character has the same name as my daughter.
We just started a let's play of 'Child of Light' on our youtube channel. It is arduous at best. I would like it if it wasn't so... annoying.