Zero Punctuation: DC Universe Online
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I beta-tested this dreck because I quite enjoyed City of Heroes. I'm not a big comic fan so I might be missing out on something but I totally agree with this review. This game is boring, the only options are to create characters who are nearly the same as DC heros (I assume) and most of those powers play the same anyway.
For a game that came out years after City of Heroes you'd expect it to add a lot, but in fact it's actually shallower, with less options and less environments. If you're a huge DC fan you might like this, otherwise just play City of Heroes. Champions Online has the same sort of problems but even that ranks higher than DC Heros for me. Feels like a bad copy with a license tacked on.
For a game that came out years after City of Heroes you'd expect it to add a lot, but in fact it's actually shallower, with less options and less environments. If you're a huge DC fan you might like this, otherwise just play City of Heroes. Champions Online has the same sort of problems but even that ranks higher than DC Heros for me. Feels like a bad copy with a license tacked on.
This review utterly missed the point of the game, which is that it is an action based combat MMORPG. The powers are quite varied and detailed.
Long story short, he should have played it a lot more instead of deciding he hated it within 10 minutes of play and then coming up with reasons why.
Shoddy review. Funny, but shoddy.
Long story short, he should have played it a lot more instead of deciding he hated it within 10 minutes of play and then coming up with reasons why.
Shoddy review. Funny, but shoddy.
Yep...Americans..we're the only ones...we're such freaks...and everyone of your nationality is normal and just like you. Golly, I wish I was like you too!Gralian said:
I'm honestly disappointed that Yathzee enjoyed Preacher. It's cynical, violent, perverse, full of dark humour and over-the-top criticism on Religion, and it's intellectual and emotional level flies only inches above the gutter.
I am NOT a fan of Preacher. And I find it silly that people who criticize Superhero comics for being "Juvenile Power Fantasies" then go around and praise the works of Garth Ennis, a man who has written some of the schlockiest, juvenile porn/gornfests ever put in print.
That being said, everything I've seen about DCUOnline makes me more interested in sticking with City of Heroes.
I am NOT a fan of Preacher. And I find it silly that people who criticize Superhero comics for being "Juvenile Power Fantasies" then go around and praise the works of Garth Ennis, a man who has written some of the schlockiest, juvenile porn/gornfests ever put in print.
That being said, everything I've seen about DCUOnline makes me more interested in sticking with City of Heroes.
That sarcasm wasn't needed. I didn't say Americans were freaks. Nor did i say everyone of my nationality was "normal", nor did i say i was "normal". Don't put words into my mouth, and look again.Brainst0rm said:
I said there was a fixation. Comics seem to be a much larger part of American culture than most other places. I know the Japanese have manga, but that's not quite the same as what i mean here. I see a lot of affinity for comic book heroes and villains from Americans, be it from our own Moviebob, the way many people were hyped for MVC3 and even the film industry. Hollywood is pumping out... what, two Superhero movies in one go? Wonderwoman and the Green Lantern? Europe just hasn't seem to have taken off with the appeal of comic book heroes. But you know, it's hardly surprising, considering Marvel and DC both originate from America. Of course you'll get Europeans who enjoy comic books, but generally speaking, Americans seem to 'get into it' a lot more.Gralian said:
The entire concept of this particular momorrpuguh had me a bit confused from the start. Basing a game in an already established universe of characters where you can't actually play as any of the characters, but instead as their store brand knock-offs. I don't see much appeal in that.
nice i heard a skinner box reference.
also nice ending but over all it was not that funny. try again next week
also nice ending but over all it was not that funny. try again next week
Honestly, dont belive what he says about this. Hes one of my faovrites and averything, but he didnt bother to mention a single good quality about it.drummodino said:
Like the fact that character customization takes place even after you decide your hero. Every item you get gives you a new costume peice, so you can change your looks litterally, when ever you look. You could be in the middle of combat trying to figure out what hair style you enjoy.
He also described it as button mashing, when really, there are alot of combos you unlock. Just mashing buttons severly hampers your damage out put.
Honestly, i went into the game with my suspicions, but im still playing it this day and having a great time. Because its much more active then other games. You dont stand there going "1-2-2-2-2-3-1-2-2-2" over and over for hours on end. And every quest is FULLY VOICED. Thats right. You dont have to stand there and read a wall of text. The hero/villain you choose and your mentor pops up on screen, and tells you what to do in amazing good voice acting.
I would give this mmo a try. You know, and go through the first 30 days that comes with it. You will probably be surpirsed by how much fun it is.
And lets face it, how many games for 50 bucks accually last a month these days?
Thing is I live in Australia, for me the game will be $100 to $120. As I'm starting university this year (hence I'm not gonna have a lot of money) I'm not gonna spend that much money on a game unless I know for sure that I will really enjoy it. The only games I'm considering buying this year are Portal 2 and inFamous 2.kouriichi said:
Are you sure about Japan? From what i see here in the middle (europeGralian said:
) the japanese manga "fixation" _dwarfs_ the love for comics in america (nd i don't say that either of it would be bad).BTT:
This.kouriichi said:
It's the first MMORPG with an immersive combat system. Unlike every other mouse driven MMO out there, you play it like a brawler, ideally with a game controller (XBox 360, Logitech, etc.). You have only 6 Slots for skills and have to choose witch of the many active skills you want to take with you in your next fight (Guild Wars did this with success before). There are roles attached to each character, so you can DPS (every char) or fullfill a specific role (tanking, controller, healer) as you want by pressing a key and changing that role (with added bonus stats).
The Quests/Instances tie in the game world, are fully voiced and intresting, even if done a second or third time.
You can change your appearance during the game freely game by equipping new costume pieces and you can change the colour set freely every time you want.
It's great for someone who reads comics, to see the heroes and villains come to live in great quality.
BUT:
- The targeting is awfull
- the chat system is awfull
- if you are not into comics or brawler, the percieved play quality sinks very fast
Let's just hope they carry through with the "one content update per month/two month" thing.
As lovely looking Champions is, CoH is the better game.MechaManiacal said:
-Powers and Difficulty are balanced fairly and can be adjusted to wild extremes for more of a challenge (and more of a reward).
-More story arcs and team-focused missions
-More costume options and power customization options
-Loot that scales to any lvl range for extra bonuses, but can be entirely ignored if desired
-Power choices are more limited but that's a good thing considering how much Champions mishandled letting you have access to all powers.
-Mission creator system to let you make your own villain groups and story arcs to upload and share with the community. The villain groups incredibly more customizable than the Nemesis system in champions.
-City of Heroes has it's own original story, where as Champions Online was blatantly obvious scraped from the canceled Marvel MMO project (see things like giant green mutant spawned from radiation hopping around Arizona and destroying things in a blind rage)
-Stronger community in general.
-No block mechanic is a huge plus.
One of the few games I've actually played that Yahtzee's reviewed, and I can't help noticing how wildly inaccurate some of this review is.
It's like it's written by somebody who made up their mind about the game before even playing it. Then sat down to find and enlarge as many minor flaws about the game as possible, without highlighting any of the good stuff.
Wait... what am I saying!? This is a Yahtzee review! That's exactly what happened.
It's like it's written by somebody who made up their mind about the game before even playing it. Then sat down to find and enlarge as many minor flaws about the game as possible, without highlighting any of the good stuff.
Wait... what am I saying!? This is a Yahtzee review! That's exactly what happened.
The midlife infinite crisis line really cracked me up for some reason. It's not even that funny. >_>
I actually recall a scene in a comic where Lucius Fox (who in the comics is neither a scientific genius or aware of Bruce's alter ego) confronted Bruce Wayne about some ridiculously huge and expensive items such as jets and helicopters disappearing from their inventories. Bruce just smiled and optimistically announced that they could declare them with insurance and get a tax loss.Yahtzee said:
I personally disagree with every point you just said. Yahtzee was spot on the money.kouriichi said:
I honestly didn't care that I could customise my character after the innitial customisation phase because the customisation is rubbish, you're effectivly given a choice between stupid helmet, or even stupider helmet.
As for button mashing. Yes, you can learn new combo's. You learn the most powerful one, and you re-use it over and over and over again until everyone who needs to be dead is dead. I suppose you could do lots of different button combo's when in a fight and feel fancy, but that seems pointless as it means your doing some fancy punching when you could just repeatedly shoot fire balls in the enemies face until they learn to just bliddy die.
As for the voicing. It was O.K. Just O.K. The acual heroes do a fine job of telling you who they want dead an get on with it, I chose Superman and Lex Luthor so maybe I picked a bad option. Everyone else has the same 3 lines of dialogue they'll spout over and over again until you go crazy. And that doesn't make up for the fact that the game play is total rubbish.
I played this for about two weeks I think, than gave up and sold it off. My recomendation, don't suffer like I had to, watching your favourite Universe being turned into a monotomous job where after a few missions you find yourself thinking "Oh God! Superman wants me to save the day by hitting stuff a lot again!"
This game is bad and should not be bought.
