Zero Punctuation: Demon's Souls
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Warachia said:
You have to update your browser. It's the flash plug-in that needs updating. Same issue when I try to watch something here that isn't ZP on my PS3.
Yatzhee hits the nail on the head yet again. Good work.
I think I'll pick this up next year after the holiday spending sprees. I've been waiting for your point of view on the game. Good to know that it's balls hard for no good reason.
I think I'll pick this up next year after the holiday spending sprees. I've been waiting for your point of view on the game. Good to know that it's balls hard for no good reason.
Woot, inb4 the first 100 responses!
Kinda surprised he hated on this game so much... I haven't played it, but I see the kids on /v/ talking about it all the time. It sounds fun from what I've heard...
Kinda surprised he hated on this game so much... I haven't played it, but I see the kids on /v/ talking about it all the time. It sounds fun from what I've heard...
The game is extremely hard, but fair. Nothing that happens in the game is really bullshit, as much as it is just VERY fair. You get stabbed in the back by two or three guys, you die. You get hit by dragons breath, you die. Crushed by a tower sized monster, you guessed it, death.
Ha-ha! I'm not a nerd, but I've finished this game during my vacation this year, and - Yantzee, admit, you just suck at it.
You can actually kill this very first Boss (three-eyed fatso with giant cleaver), although it's hard to find the right strategy. In this case you'll see the alternative opening in Dragon God's lair.
Also there is a way of crossing that bridge with the dragon without getting hit. Also, you can simply kill this dragon with arrows or bolts.
For me it's GOTY. But...
I've got to admit - if you're going to play it, play it on vacation. This game requires tons of time and dedication.
Oh, and please, please review Serious Sam HD. I suck at Serious Sam games)))
You can actually kill this very first Boss (three-eyed fatso with giant cleaver), although it's hard to find the right strategy. In this case you'll see the alternative opening in Dragon God's lair.
Also there is a way of crossing that bridge with the dragon without getting hit. Also, you can simply kill this dragon with arrows or bolts.
For me it's GOTY. But...
I've got to admit - if you're going to play it, play it on vacation. This game requires tons of time and dedication.
Oh, and please, please review Serious Sam HD. I suck at Serious Sam games)))
lol that was great. after all these easy games came out, people seem to have gotten too used to "their hands being held as if the game was a creepy uncle."
games are supposed to be challenging.
games are supposed to be challenging.
Yahtzee, thanks for reviewing this. It's one of my favorite all time games. If you aren't really good at video games then you'll probably hate it though.
Seems to me a lot of people here - and Y included - did not bother to actually check out the game's various mechanics:
-no save points? the game saves constantly, every kill, every swing, every herb you eat. Have you ever played a little game called "Diablo 2"? Yeah, same thing, if you abort mid-mission, you have to start over, but keep everything you earned so far. And there are save points midlevel, too, they're just not called that way. Like when you open up a shortcut to - exactly - NOT have to go through the whole level again...
-frustrating? maybe. but what Y here describes, that pure deceitfulness of something spawning and insta-killing you? well, simply not there. at least not for someone with eyes to see: like the pile of burned bodies, still smoking, and the sound of giant wings... Who could have guessed that some danger lingers here?
-trial and error? quite the opposite. DS has no room for it, because error gets punished quite severely. So you don't try, you watch and learn. Let that guy swing through the air a couple of times, see, what he can do. Be careful, all the time. And wow, no trial and error there, and even though I died a lot, I also finished a lot of the levels and bosses on my first ever encounter with them. Still took a lot of time, because it won't happen if you rush into it...
-boring combat? Like no QTEs? no special surroundings that make that ginormous boss feel and play like one of those mindless zombies a couple of minutes earlier? I call that quite an amazing mechanic, that lets me - the tiny guy with the steel thing in his hand - fight enormous dragons and stuff, with just the same tools I had all along. Now, those are boss fights, instead of just interactive and cool-looking cut scenes...
Sorry for the long lovepost, but it had to be said, i think...
-no save points? the game saves constantly, every kill, every swing, every herb you eat. Have you ever played a little game called "Diablo 2"? Yeah, same thing, if you abort mid-mission, you have to start over, but keep everything you earned so far. And there are save points midlevel, too, they're just not called that way. Like when you open up a shortcut to - exactly - NOT have to go through the whole level again...
-frustrating? maybe. but what Y here describes, that pure deceitfulness of something spawning and insta-killing you? well, simply not there. at least not for someone with eyes to see: like the pile of burned bodies, still smoking, and the sound of giant wings... Who could have guessed that some danger lingers here?
-trial and error? quite the opposite. DS has no room for it, because error gets punished quite severely. So you don't try, you watch and learn. Let that guy swing through the air a couple of times, see, what he can do. Be careful, all the time. And wow, no trial and error there, and even though I died a lot, I also finished a lot of the levels and bosses on my first ever encounter with them. Still took a lot of time, because it won't happen if you rush into it...
-boring combat? Like no QTEs? no special surroundings that make that ginormous boss feel and play like one of those mindless zombies a couple of minutes earlier? I call that quite an amazing mechanic, that lets me - the tiny guy with the steel thing in his hand - fight enormous dragons and stuff, with just the same tools I had all along. Now, those are boss fights, instead of just interactive and cool-looking cut scenes...
Sorry for the long lovepost, but it had to be said, i think...
That's just a backstep move. The actual dodge maneuver (roll) is easier to perform and dodges quite handily. There's also a block action that works really well.benjtfell said:
Yeah....this review is really funny, but it is evident that Yahtzee barely scratched the surface of this game. He didn't seem to even level up his character. Oh well; dude must be too busy to give this game proper time. Or maybe he just had a little too much sugar and spice in his diet growing up....
The review does communicate the all important disclaimer : This game is hard. It might frustrate you. If you are weak of heart, or lacking of balls (tits for you girl gamers) then it might not be for you.
I bought the game purely on word of mouth. Demon's Soul's is designed to be hard from the get go, so I do not care about the difficulty at all. I reminded me of all those games from the old NES where the only way you can beat the monsters is to grind your way through the game. This game is just as hard as the old school games like Battletoads, Bayou Billy, Adamantium Rage, Metal Slug, and many other games.
Do not give me the canard that this game is difficult and frustrating, whereas the older stuff is just challenging. I do not buy that line. A difficult game is difficult no matter what era the game is made. The only reason why older games get the challenging moniker is because of Nostalgia.
Now if you excuse me, I have a dragon to kill.
Do not give me the canard that this game is difficult and frustrating, whereas the older stuff is just challenging. I do not buy that line. A difficult game is difficult no matter what era the game is made. The only reason why older games get the challenging moniker is because of Nostalgia.
Now if you excuse me, I have a dragon to kill.