It wasn't that hard, the true challenge was not getting banned on the first page.Thaluikhain said:I remember the old days where getting first post was more or less impossible.
No the stakes are very real. Peoples spirits get trapped in the machine and if you die in the machine you die in the real world. I would liken it to Nightmare on Elm street. Like with Freddy what happens to you in the dream may not be real but it kills you all the same. The difference is that waking up from STEM is much harder then waking up in the Elm Street movies.Silentpony said:Wait wait wait, I never played the first one, but is the entire premise you're in a .hack// type world and its all fake? Like no stakes, nothing is actually spooky or haunted, its just glitched software and someone with the .exe command list?!
That's fucking weak! It'd be like learning all the Saw movies are set in those Escape Rooms and everyone is paying money for the experience of a stupid clown trying to get them to confess to eating the last slice of pizza.
Oh that's lame. So its just a Matrix Halloween special.Blazing Hero said:No the stakes are very real. Peoples spirits get trapped in the machine and if you die in the machine you die in the real world. I would liken it to Nightmare on Elm street. Like with Freddy what happens to you in the dream may not be real but it kills you all the same. The difference is that waking up from STEM is much harder then waking up in the Elm Street movies.Silentpony said:Wait wait wait, I never played the first one, but is the entire premise you're in a .hack// type world and its all fake? Like no stakes, nothing is actually spooky or haunted, its just glitched software and someone with the .exe command list?!
That's fucking weak! It'd be like learning all the Saw movies are set in those Escape Rooms and everyone is paying money for the experience of a stupid clown trying to get them to confess to eating the last slice of pizza.
Isn't this kind of the plot of FEAR? Except it's not your daughter?inu-kun said:I'm seeing the "Krillin Plays" of the games, gotta say I wish they had the balls to make a twist of the protag daughter being the antagonist in the game, going mad, helping the bad camera guy and wanting to kill you for abandoning her. But the chances of that is non existant.
You didn't like the concept behind the Matrix or Nightmare on Elm Street? Then yeah this game is certainly not for you. Though it does leave me wondering why you care about a world in fiction being "fake" when all fiction is fake anyway. No horror you watch is actually real so I don't see a difference.Silentpony said:Oh that's lame. So its just a Matrix Halloween special.Blazing Hero said:No the stakes are very real. Peoples spirits get trapped in the machine and if you die in the machine you die in the real world. I would liken it to Nightmare on Elm street. Like with Freddy what happens to you in the dream may not be real but it kills you all the same. The difference is that waking up from STEM is much harder then waking up in the Elm Street movies.Silentpony said:Wait wait wait, I never played the first one, but is the entire premise you're in a .hack// type world and its all fake? Like no stakes, nothing is actually spooky or haunted, its just glitched software and someone with the .exe command list?!
That's fucking weak! It'd be like learning all the Saw movies are set in those Escape Rooms and everyone is paying money for the experience of a stupid clown trying to get them to confess to eating the last slice of pizza.
See its not that I don't like the Matrix. I actually do - robots, shooting, kung fu, trippy visuals, what fun! But remember in Matrix 2, those albino ghost bros, and indeed all the other 'monsters' who were just AI programs with access to the Halloween skins? Yeah that's really lame. Its not scary if its not a ghost, but an program that's just pretending to be a ghost. It'd be like is Silent Hill wasn't a in-universe town, but just a really fucked up episode of Reboot.Blazing Hero said:You didn't like the concept behind the Matrix or Nightmare on Elm Street? Then yeah this game is certainly not for you. Though it does leave me wondering why you care about a world in fiction being "fake" when all fiction is fake anyway. No horror you watch is actually real so I don't see a difference.Silentpony said:Oh that's lame. So its just a Matrix Halloween special.Blazing Hero said:No the stakes are very real. Peoples spirits get trapped in the machine and if you die in the machine you die in the real world. I would liken it to Nightmare on Elm street. Like with Freddy what happens to you in the dream may not be real but it kills you all the same. The difference is that waking up from STEM is much harder then waking up in the Elm Street movies.Silentpony said:Wait wait wait, I never played the first one, but is the entire premise you're in a .hack// type world and its all fake? Like no stakes, nothing is actually spooky or haunted, its just glitched software and someone with the .exe command list?!
That's fucking weak! It'd be like learning all the Saw movies are set in those Escape Rooms and everyone is paying money for the experience of a stupid clown trying to get them to confess to eating the last slice of pizza.
Edit: Ah come to think of it you might be interested in one aspect of the games story. SPOILER for the first game...
The main antagonist of the story named Ruvik at the end of The Evil Within gains a psychic ability when exiting STEM that allows him to turn the outer world into STEM. His main goal was to blur the line of reality and STEM so they become one in the same. This means that there is no longer a machine so the creatures he creates essential do become real in the stories world. The problem is I don't know if they kept up with this plot line in the EW2 since it looks like it brought back the STEM machines. So I would say pass on this game if the machine concept bothers you. Though personally I am stoked to play the Evil Within 2 when I get the time.
Try using different browsersJang said:Anyone else who keeps having a problem where you only see a commercial for the good days of the escapist? I can't watch the ZP video :/
They do explain that stuff in the game. Basically when a character goes into the not-matrix their mind/consciousness/soul/whatever leaves their body and goes into the machine.PapaGreg096 said:Yeah one of the things that takes me out of Evil Within is how weird the setting is, like are they in virtual reality or not, why can't they unplug themsleves or like what yahtzee said kill the troublemakers.