Zero Punctuation: Kid Icarus: Uprising
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That line in conjunction with the hilarious pictures of oddly proportioned people had me howling with laughter! I nearly fell off my chair.ChocoFace said:
OT: I was going to base my purchase of this game on this review. Conclusion? Well I don't think I'll bother! ^_^
It's a parody of Groucho Marx silly. Come one, rapid fire jokes? Monsters that look like Groucho? Really man. subtlety? Ha!! That's what you play Uncharted games for (great game by the way). Also this game is a sequel to SSBB man. Pit is the protagonist in Subspace Emissary That's why he knows so much about other Nintendo worlds. The games not giving references, It's are harping to his adventure in Brawl. I hope you've learned something today man.Swifteye said:
Bleh. I guess it was funny, but I have not disagreed with you so much on a game review since Smash Bros Brawl. I'll start out with the good points. Your disclaimer about being unbiased was actually backed up with examples of what you like(d) about Nintendo. You liked the Gamecube and the DS? Cool, you don't like the direction Nintendo is going, that's all. So, Yahtzee, if you really liked the Gamecube and DS, you should have told us before this. Just sayin' With that in mind...
One, the controls. They're bad at first but I got used to them quickly, and I don't see what the problem is with them anymore. honestly, I couldn't think of a way to make them better (I'm not good with dual-analog) until you mentioned tapping the touch screen to fire. That's... legit. Props to you. There is an "auto-fire" option, but it lacks the satisfying feedback from pressing a button or tapping a touch screen. You can customize the controls, but the other options just aren't good. Still, you could have brought that up. Also, I have discovered that you can hold the stand with the game on it and play perfectly fine.
Two, the story. Yes, it mentions the old game a couple times, but not to a jarring extent and it stops after a while. I had no idea if you even played through the story mode completely because you said Medusa was the villain. The story goes from great to awesome (IMO anyway) in the second half, and it even has the whole mixture of gameplay and story that you harp on about so much.
Three, the "distracting" visuals. This is a new one that I have no idea where it came from. The visuals were AMAZING and not distracting at all as far as I'm concerned, especially in 3D. Is this your cannot-say-a-nice-thing way of saying that it looks gorgeous?
Four, I recall you complaining about the difficulty and then giving the difficulty adjuster a passing mention. WTF? There were some legit complains about that, like how insulting it is to have the game automatically ease up if you die. But otherwise, I liked it a lot and it added a lot of replay value for me.
Five, the astounding variety of weapons were not even mentioned, and fusion only got a passing mention. Are you trying to avoid saying something good about this game? The weapon variety and fusion system was what kept me coming back to the game weeks after I beat it. You mention the pointless mini game but not this? That's like not mentioning the multiplayer in NSMB Wii.
Overall, it felt like you went out of your way to insult this game. Which is sad, because it's really a great game. You may not have hated Nintendo back in the GCN and DS days, but you sure as hell hate them now and your initial disclaimer isn't fooling anyone. Sorry.
One, the controls. They're bad at first but I got used to them quickly, and I don't see what the problem is with them anymore. honestly, I couldn't think of a way to make them better (I'm not good with dual-analog) until you mentioned tapping the touch screen to fire. That's... legit. Props to you. There is an "auto-fire" option, but it lacks the satisfying feedback from pressing a button or tapping a touch screen. You can customize the controls, but the other options just aren't good. Still, you could have brought that up. Also, I have discovered that you can hold the stand with the game on it and play perfectly fine.
Two, the story. Yes, it mentions the old game a couple times, but not to a jarring extent and it stops after a while. I had no idea if you even played through the story mode completely because you said Medusa was the villain. The story goes from great to awesome (IMO anyway) in the second half, and it even has the whole mixture of gameplay and story that you harp on about so much.
Three, the "distracting" visuals. This is a new one that I have no idea where it came from. The visuals were AMAZING and not distracting at all as far as I'm concerned, especially in 3D. Is this your cannot-say-a-nice-thing way of saying that it looks gorgeous?
Four, I recall you complaining about the difficulty and then giving the difficulty adjuster a passing mention. WTF? There were some legit complains about that, like how insulting it is to have the game automatically ease up if you die. But otherwise, I liked it a lot and it added a lot of replay value for me.
Five, the astounding variety of weapons were not even mentioned, and fusion only got a passing mention. Are you trying to avoid saying something good about this game? The weapon variety and fusion system was what kept me coming back to the game weeks after I beat it. You mention the pointless mini game but not this? That's like not mentioning the multiplayer in NSMB Wii.
Overall, it felt like you went out of your way to insult this game. Which is sad, because it's really a great game. You may not have hated Nintendo back in the GCN and DS days, but you sure as hell hate them now and your initial disclaimer isn't fooling anyone. Sorry.
I already inherently dislike this game for the simple reason that the only way to play this game left handed is to buy ANOTHER peripheral.
There was usually a reverse option for games that heavily use the stylus, there isn't one and I shouldn't be indirectly punished for requiring one.
There was usually a reverse option for games that heavily use the stylus, there isn't one and I shouldn't be indirectly punished for requiring one.
Honestly, I think that this game is just the series embracing the fact that it never was true Greek myth from the beginning, and just going with its own made-up pantheon.Father Time said:
I don't remember a goddess named Viridi in Greek myth, for example.
Funniest ZP in a long time.
I would have thought the protagonist would have been called Icarus, given the title of the game...
I would have thought the protagonist would have been called Icarus, given the title of the game...
So, uh, everyone seems to be going on and on about how shit the controls are, (and I'm sure many of them haven't had any first hand experience with the game or even the 3ds) but I played a game called Metroid Prime: Hunters about 6 years ago and thought the controls worked well enough.....better than any other control scheme I could imagine for that type of game on the system. It's a shame they didn't include dual analog support in Kid Icarus. Whether I would've used it or not, it would've made the game more enjoyable to some.....although I am a fan of standardized control schemes, especially when it comes to competitive gaming.
Yahtzee has always twisted facts and omitted others to make his criticisms seem more valid or amusing, and everybody around here claims to know that. Yet, so many seem to assume his criticisms are valid for games that they know next to nothing about and have never played before. Some even defend his points against those more knowledgeable in the matter.
Entertaining as usual Yahtzee. I could make my go-to "Nintendo doesn't rehash it's franchises and in fact is incredibly liberal with them when compared to most AAA devs making sequels" argument, but I'll just take the GC and DS compliments and go check out what that game was that you thought deserved a spot amongst Windwaker and Metroid Prime......seriously, it must be fucking brilliant.
Yahtzee has always twisted facts and omitted others to make his criticisms seem more valid or amusing, and everybody around here claims to know that. Yet, so many seem to assume his criticisms are valid for games that they know next to nothing about and have never played before. Some even defend his points against those more knowledgeable in the matter.
Entertaining as usual Yahtzee. I could make my go-to "Nintendo doesn't rehash it's franchises and in fact is incredibly liberal with them when compared to most AAA devs making sequels" argument, but I'll just take the GC and DS compliments and go check out what that game was that you thought deserved a spot amongst Windwaker and Metroid Prime......seriously, it must be fucking brilliant.
Um dude. How do they know the name of the game? They referenced the game not actual continuity. You do know what I mean by subtlety don't you? I was talking about the narrative not the motley crew of random monsters (which by the way never stopped dragon quest despite having some really silly looking creatures with terrible puns for names) which has nothing to do with how the story carries itself.Richfeet said:
How can this game be a sequel to a crossover fighting game? Should we expect Zelda to gab about mario in the next legend of zelda game or hear solid snake murmur about that one time he was swallowed up by a pink balloon (nevermind that could actually happen)?
Let me just lay down what I expected. Do you remember that one scene in the tutorial where they describe the controls? Pit says "hey that looks familiar..." He could have just left it at that and that would have been enough to get the reference. But Nooo. They went on to missname the game they were referencing and then after that they flat out name the game completely.
Please. If i'm forgetting the part where they mentioned super smash brothers melee in super smash brothers melee let me know cause otherwise. It was a hamfisted reference.
Wait did he just compliment Ace Attorney in that vid? +1 rep
Well, that's rather unexpected... It is one of the best games on the DS but I thought he didn't like visual novel type games?
Don't look a gift compliment in the mouth I guess, especially when it comes from Yahtzee XD
Well, that's rather unexpected... It is one of the best games on the DS but I thought he didn't like visual novel type games?
Don't look a gift compliment in the mouth I guess, especially when it comes from Yahtzee XD
Iampringles said:
Anyhows: If I do purchase a 3DS in the future, I doubt this will be one of the games I get
The Wykydtron said:
Ok, so they should have been easter eggs instead or Metal Gear Solid codec humor (in small doses)? That kind of subtlety? Ok. I guess it's been a while since they made Kid icarus. Probably thought it was lost in time or something. Although the game does play like Brawl in a way.Swifteye said:
There's got to be a better way of handling a one stick character movement with a fire button for a 3D rail shooter. Hmm...
Left Stick: Move & Aim
Left Shoulder Button (Ground): Hold to Target Strafe/Tap to recenter camera
Right Shoulder Button: Shoot
A: Jump/Special
Not sure if this is designed as a twin-stick shooter but the game appears to functions similar to Star Fox and a 3rd person shooter. Possibly could of been an alternative to the stylus really and doesn't require the second stick attachment.
Left Stick: Move & Aim
Left Shoulder Button (Ground): Hold to Target Strafe/Tap to recenter camera
Right Shoulder Button: Shoot
A: Jump/Special
Not sure if this is designed as a twin-stick shooter but the game appears to functions similar to Star Fox and a 3rd person shooter. Possibly could of been an alternative to the stylus really and doesn't require the second stick attachment.
I know I'm probably the only person on the planet to say this and mean it, but I honestly had no problem with the controls. I had no cramps, no anything. I think I had slight discomfort after about a 4 hour play marathon, that's about it.
It's less people think that you're biased against nintendo and more that they think that you're biased against the Wii because you never pass down an opportunity to rag on it and now that I think about it you've taken a lot of pot shots at the 3DS too. I know that you're not biased but really you can only come back to the same thing with the same complaints and so many times before people start to think that you have a bone to pick.
Nintendo loves confusing the shit out of its consumers. Check DIS fuggin' shyit out!Iampringles said:
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Anyway, funny video as usual. About what I expected from a ZP vid featuring a Ninty game.
Hilarious comments. About what I expected from a ZP comment section featuring a Ninty game. Fans of the game accusing the other watchers of being spiteful and blind sheep respectively when they just dislike the game. Fans of Yahtzee accusing the people that liked the game of being nostalgia-idled blind sheep when they really just think the game is good and disagree with Yahtzee. Sunrise, sunset, just another day at The Escapist!
As for me personally, I've heard from peers and reviewers alike that the game is good, and the cheesy dialogue in the game makes me laugh, so I'm gonna pick it up. And hey, if the controllers suck as much as everyone says, I'll just change 'em. No big.