Zero Punctuation: Kid Icarus: Uprising
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Believe me, I know the feeling. the other sports are much less taxing, though. However, you're talking about the Wii here, and this is a completely different system. Your argument is invalid.CapitalistPig said:
No sarcasm here, I appreciate the little science lesson. I already knew that, but knowing that you know why it's the case is pretty cool.
The 3DS does not feature motion control except for the Gyroscope, which thankfully takes a backseat to touchscreen and button controls, both of which avert the wii boxing problem due to the resistance offered by the 3DS itself. If you're talking about the 3D, it's not painful at all to play in 3D and even so, it is completely optional. The 3D also takes a backseat to the 3DS's astounding hardware. The name is just a pun and the 3D is more easily marketable than the processing power and graphics.
I'm not the one flaming here. There haven't been any main series Pokemon games on the 3DS yet; actually, the newest ones coming out (Black 2 and White 2) will be on the DS. Yes, I look forward to playing Pokemon on my 3DS. However, there's so much more. This game is a pretty damn good reason to get a 3DS, in my book it is fantastic. There's also Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, updated rereleases of Ocarina of Time and Starfox 64, and upcoming games like New Super Mario Bros 2. As the next generation of Nintendo handhelds, all of Nintendo's IPs will take the jump to 3DS, and even that doesn't appear to be all, judging from this game. The possibilities of playing a handheld game of one of those IPs with this kind of power, including graphics comparable to the Wii, (without the 3D activated) is a very valid reason to get a 3DS. Cry fanboy all you want, but you're the one flaming here, not me.
Maybe you people should realize that just because Yahtzee doesn't like a game you do, it's not a personal attack on you. I played the game and liked it. Yahtzee brought up some valid points, but I still enjoyed the game. Maybe if you were a real fan you would actually play the game instead of rushing onto a forum to spout vitriol at some guy who has a different opinion from you.
Good review by the way, best one for a couple of weeks now.
Good review by the way, best one for a couple of weeks now.
Would you recommend it to a complete stranger on the interwebs. Like me? I'm usually quite picky about bad controls.Dresos said:
This is just a hypothesis, but maybe the weight of the 3DS is a factor? It is noticably heavier than the old DS Lite (and maybe the i and LL too).fenrirvii said:
I love the game, but the strain on my wrist does tend to limit me to short bursts of a single level at a time.
They're not bad in a "makes the game not work well" way. The problem is more of a "your wrist might start hurting after a while" problem.1nfinite_Cros5 said:
Doesn't Yahtzee already have an established history of hating on Whedon & his work? I don't mean to get off topic but it has come up in earlier videos, and there's that YouTube vid with him & the two other guys talking about Whedon's writing style. And yes, Yahtzee's in fine funny form.
My Nintendo Fanboyisms aren't really upset at you for this review, Yahtzee. Mind you, I don't have a 3DS because they make me hurlicious, and I haven't seen the game yet. Maybe if I played the game I could be frothing in rage, kind of like how I was when you reviewed Monster Hunter Tri for not making fun of the little helper guy.
But I will say I was absolutely giddy with good memories when you brought up the GameCube controller and all of its awesomeness. ``
But I will say I was absolutely giddy with good memories when you brought up the GameCube controller and all of its awesomeness. ``
I can play the game fine without the stand. Since I lost my stylus (I swear, the stylus holder is too loose... I've had my DS Lite for 5 years, and it still never slipped out, while I only had the 3DS for a week then lost the stylus), I found that it's even playable with your right thumb.
Also, I use A(right),B(use powerup), and Y(left) for powerups, the default D-Pad settings are terrible because you can't move and choose powerups at the same time.
The only thing I hate about the controls is that it's way too easy to dash and slip off an edge. It should just be double tap to dash in my opinion. We shouldn't have to gradually slide the circle pad just to walk comfortably.
Also, I use A(right),B(use powerup), and Y(left) for powerups, the default D-Pad settings are terrible because you can't move and choose powerups at the same time.
The only thing I hate about the controls is that it's way too easy to dash and slip off an edge. It should just be double tap to dash in my opinion. We shouldn't have to gradually slide the circle pad just to walk comfortably.
Agreed you make great points here. I obviously don't know much about 3DS and I really don't plan to research it. I made the chiding joke about pokemon because I saw my nephew playing it on what looked to me like a 3DS perhaps I was wrong.Enlong said:
On the note of the analogy I agree they do not relate, but the analogy was not directed toward a direct comparison of Wii's and 3DS controls. It was directed at the over arching idea of poor control design that is largely criticized. The note being Wii controls lead to pained joints and hunching over a 3DS (an yhatzee complained) can lead to similar joint pain. I would imagine it originates in the shoulders much like netbooks with overly small keyboards cause the same hunching motion (which is why netbook sales are generally low, poor on the go use.) or wrists since prolonged use will lead to carpal tunnel of the wrist and tendinitis of the forearm.
I'd say since there are guides how to handle the product to counter these issues, which will still lead to joint damage either in the fingers or wrist then the point I made about nintendo being predictable is still pretty spot on.
You're probably right that an emotional response wasn't what I was looking for. What I wanted was someone to contend my claim decisively that on the go consoles are going to make our hands fall off.
As far as the ellipses comment is concerned. sweet bro, hella Jeff.
I'd hate to point this out but your review clearly points out that you barely played the game. Medusa is only the first villain before the twists kick in. In addition, if you looked at the manual you'd know the stand is not for playing the game. It's to put the 3ds on to play with the card aspect of the game it's basically so you can set up the ds to do the augmented reality card battle game.(unecessary part but that's what the stand is actually for.) It sucks you still refuse to play with the 3d on because rainbows shooting into your face is an accurate descriptor. The controls are poor if you are left handed. If your right handed then you're a baby and if you play it for a little while you get used to it fast. Anyone who actually gave the game a chance loves it for good reason. It's pretty damn good. Maybe give it another go zero?
I really think Yahtzee dropped the ball on this one. Fully custom controls was a very well-implemented idea that I would love to see on any game. In fact, the first thing I do (and any gamer could do honestly) is check out the menu to see if there's a control scheme I like better. Being able to change the layout to my liking is exciting. It's strange when he totally ignores basic concepts like that, and it seems like he's doing it just to make a nice joke. The bit about awful control and back-pain was actually pretty humorous, if only it was accurate. When you realize that he's going on and on about something that simply isn't true, it totally ruins the joke. D:
I also noticed his other points seemed really, well, odd? It almost felt like he was complaining that there was a good amount of stuff to do outside of the main story. Or, lord, maybe I'm just interpreting this wrong. I just felt like this review was lacking. I mean, it was at least clear he didn't try at all to make it reliable. He certainly didn't /play/ much of it. xD
I also noticed his other points seemed really, well, odd? It almost felt like he was complaining that there was a good amount of stuff to do outside of the main story. Or, lord, maybe I'm just interpreting this wrong. I just felt like this review was lacking. I mean, it was at least clear he didn't try at all to make it reliable. He certainly didn't /play/ much of it. xD
