Zero Punctuation: Mafia II

Vie

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Heh yeh could have done with a lot more side missions to play with the open world aspect, though the modders have gotten started already and from looking at the games files theres some more DLC due eventually as well.

Shame he didn't enjoy it more, I love it myself, but it ain't everybody's thing so fair enough.
 

keknaab

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The cops in Mafia 2 don't actually arrest/fine/chase you if you run a red light, I don't know why people keep saying that. Did you play the game mr. Yahtzee?
 

Flishiz

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I feel like a Mafia sandbox game in true form could only be fun if you were in control of the gang, like in Saints Row. Maybe something like what the new Godfather game tried, but not carried out so flimsily.
 

Stabby Joe

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Considering the first game was so "hailed" then of course I was expecting more. So far I've only played the demo and it was... ok to say the least. Nothing really wrong or noticeably flawed but hardly anything to relish in either.

Then there's some really odd collectible mini game involving softcore pornography... erm, retro?

Random opinion no one cares about over.
 

Dexiro

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This one seemed to be more review than the usual jokefest but there's nothing wrong with that i suppose ^_^

Didn't get the ending joke at first ;D
 

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Calibanbutcher said:
Seems like "The Godfather" is till the best Mafia game.
Only that s has a better story and more variety
Nope, Mafia is the best Mafia game around. The Godfather isn't worthy of being a fart in it's general direction.

Anyway: *Insert comment about Mafia 1/2 being shit sandbox games because they're not trying to be sandbox games.*
 

Cowabungaa

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Kind-of expected it, but I'm surprised he didn't complain about some silly things that really would've spiced the game up if they weren't cut out, pretty much every one of them shown in this parody video:
But yeah it would've been nice if the game would embrace it's open nature a bit more. Give us as much to do we could do in Red Dead Redemption, but then mafia style! Maybe something for Mafia 3.
Onyx Oblivion said:
Even in Saint's Row 2, I find that the most entertaining part of the game...
Especially in Saints Row 2 that's the best thing there is. Putting on EZZZ FM and ploughing through hordes of civilians is so hilariously unfitting that I giggled so much that I didn't even need alcohol to feel drunk.

Not to mention the, as Yathzee wonderfully described it, the Team Rocket-style physics. Gods that was hilarious.
 

yourbeliefs

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It was nice to see someone finally call out how incredibly short and disappointing the ending was. The Shawshank analogy was a good way of describing it. I was so pissed afterward that I now have a hard time recommending the game to others. Not to spoil anything, but the only advice I'll give to people is after you beat the game don't run out to take a piss because the ending will probably be done by the time you get back.
 

Imbechile

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Calibanbutcher said:
Hooray Mafia 2
NIce game, love the review.
Yathzee's a psychic, now.
And that one seems a bit too GTA IV-ish...
Only worse.
And GTA IV is, in my opinion, BAD

Seems like "The Godfather" is till the best Mafia game.
Only that s has a better story and more variety
I thought that the godfather is only meh. The best mafia game is still Mafia 1
 

CyricZ

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Jedi Sasquatch said:
wooty said:
I'm still perched on the fence about whether to buy this one or not, and this review hasnt really helped me to jump to either side.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes Yahtzee tends to miss the good aspects of games.
Not so much *miss* them as "undersell" them. Of course, that's his schtick. That's why we keep coming back, and why you should listen to more than one reviewer if you're truly stressing over whether to buy it.
 

Kermi

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YES! I was hoping he'd do Mafia II this week because I personally loved it and wanted to be told why I'm stupid.

I don't think he was wrong about anything in the game, but if you approach the game as a linear one with some very broad boundaries rather than a true sandbox, it makes a lot more sense while playing it. I felt like this review focused a little bit too much on the non-sandboxyness and less on the other elements, but in all fairness I suppose there wasn't that much else to discuss.

I never did connect emotionally with Vito apart from the common understanding in games that his success is tied with my own. I play the game right, Vito is showered with wet money and big bags of vagina. I play the game wrong and I have to sit through another loading screen.

The ending was nevertheless still a blow, largely I suppose because despite responding eagerly to every tug of the puppet strings, ultimately riches and glory was taken away from me... no less than three fucking times if we're really honest about it. First I get sent to prison, though to be honest my accumulated wealth was barely noteworthy.
Then my house burns down and I lose everything - because apparently Vito stuffed all his money into a mattress instead of the slightly more traditional option of say, a secure building specialising in holding onto money for people in some sort of locked and guarded room. Somehow my pornography survived.

Ultimately the part where your best friend who just saved your life is taken away to (probably) be fitted for some new cement cross-trainers was the final of several brutal kicks to the metaphorical groin and by the time it rolled around I had secured enough emotional padding in my pants to protect me from the worst of it.

I did observe the striking similarities between Vito/Niko and Joe/Roman, but when I too went back and watched the end cutscene from Mafia 1 I... well you know there was no real need for the crossover, so no, I won't forgive that.

At least in this game we actually got to see some BEEG AMERICAN TEETEES.
 

phoenix352

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wooty said:
I'm still perched on the fence about whether to buy this one or not, and this review hasnt really helped me to jump to either side.
then let me make it easier for you, rent it. its not that long of a game and the sand box isnt a sand box its a city with nothing to do but steal cars and shoot people. the story is pretty immersive(i know its not a word) and fun to play through, tho i agree the ending sucked... anyway i suggest renting it.
 

geizr

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The way Yahtzee describes it, sounds like another game developed using the highly successful "Like Grand Theft Auto but..." design pattern that everyone, for whatever mysterious reason, fails to buy.
 

DSQ

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LoL sopranos refrence : >
I'm a little scared to post this now since the first two post got probation for mearly saying the review was good. Because the review was good.

On Topic, I think the reason most mafia game end up being about how crime doesn't pay is because socity wants to subimally stop people from joining up.