Zero Punctuation: Next Gen Buyer's Guide

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WeepingAngels

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erttheking said:
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erttheking said:
I'm still willing to give the PS4 the benefit of the doubt, partially because it's not pulling all of the shit that the Xbone is, and partially because I actually like the concept of a share button, because I'm the type of person who wouldn't mind jumping into a friends game and talking to them while they play, maybe looking away a little to type something up on my lap top. Besides, even if you don't want to do it, it's not like the PS4 holds you hostage and forces you to do it.
PS4 is only looking better because Adam Orth didn't work for Sony. That guy single-handedly made MS talk about all the nasty stuff they were probably going to ignore. Sony has the luxury of staying quiet, and to go ahead and do the same things MS is.

Mind you I hope they don't, and think the whole spirit of competition should be trying to offer a product that is preferred by the consumers, rather than doing the same things that someone else is getting away with because "that's the way things are now, deal with it".
Yeah, but didn't Sony say that there wouldn't be any DRM or used game fees or any of the other stuff that made the Xbone so laughable?
I think they said they would leave it up to publishers.
 

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You know i was getting really depressed about all the bad news concerning this new console generation, then i remembered that i'm a member of the glorious pc gaming master race so none of this affects me and steam will have half way decent ports of all the exclusive games out and on sale by years end so what do i care?

Also i now really want to play a game of Texan Holdem where every turn people get more black mana. Imagine how much fun poker would be if you could summon zombies in the middle of it?
 

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Words cannot describe how much I agree with Yahtzee's position in this video. I'm not judging console gamers, but I'm personally quite glad that I invested in a good gaming PC
 

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ZZoMBiE13 said:
I try to avoid being pessimistic. But it is difficult to get excited for the coming generation as it stands now. Here's hoping E3 turns out fun!
yh E3 really needs to do wonders especiall for the Xbox, i know i will be getting Wii U at some point (next Zelda/Metroid most likely) but the Xbox is in bad shape. having said that Microsoft does have more IPs i like compared to the PS4
 

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A while ago, people said their console was great because it had X featured and Y games.

This time, even the fanboys fight the console wars by saying that their console doesn't have crappy feature XY. It's...fascinating.

Yeah, I have to go with "Don't" here. The only even remotely interesting console is the Wii U for me - but without games, that's useless. Especially since I won't play the next Metroid unless at least four friends have confirmed that this Metroid isn't a sexist pile of garbage that tries to murder my childhood with ideals that would have been laughed out of a 1960's men's club for being too sexist. Gosh, I hate OtherM. Very few games hate their protagonist so much that said protagonist isn't even the hero of their own story.
 

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I would very much like it if I could switch to PC gaming, but unfortunately any electronic device I cant use without physically touching it seems to die very quickly...keys stop working, software very quickly degrades and then they overheat and explode.

So I will probably hold out for as long as possible re-playing old games, then bite the bullet and buy whichever console has the least awful selection of games at the time.

What has console gaming come to?
 

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zefiris said:
A while ago, people said their console was great because it had X featured and Y games.
This time, even the fanboys fight the console wars by saying that their console doesn't have crappy feature XY. It's...fascinating.
This is so true, the best we can do this gen is say "well my soup doesn't have green shit in it and yours does". That's sad.
 

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Welcome back kids to another edition of "New Generation Hatred", a joyous occasion where the next generation is hated because it seems different than the old one. Then a bunch of people will buy it, it'll slowly faze out the majority of the old consoles, and everyone will get used to it and forget they hated it because there are other things to complain about. Then the next series will be announced and lo the cycle will start anew.
 

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I actually think the PS4 is looking pretty good. Got better hardware to make bigger games and its structure has changed to make it easier to develop for. Heck, sony is even putting there best effort to get more indie games on there and they seem to be really trying to do good this generation. Plus whats so wrong with an optional share button? Its related to gaming and its kinda cool
 

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irishda said:
Welcome back kids to another edition of "New Generation Hatred", a joyous occasion where the next generation is hated because it seems different than the old one. Then a bunch of people will buy it, it'll slowly faze out the majority of the old consoles, and everyone will get used to it and forget they hated it because there are other things to complain about. Then the next series will be announced and lo the cycle will start anew.
so so true. Why does this have to happen every gen
 

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I think he should have addressed the backwards compatibility issues in this (as not everyone reads Extra Punctuation or watches Rhymedown).

Eetinam said:
Sony shows some good games (Maybe a certain guardian, a guardian that's the last of his kind maybe) I'll buy one.
I swear, it's only gonna take one more year for that game to get vaporware status.

irishda said:
Welcome back kids to another edition of "New Generation Hatred", a joyous occasion where the next generation is hated because it seems different than the old one.
Nice strawman. In fact I dislike it because it's nothing, it's not too samey or too different, it's nothing.

Every console previously has offered something more, not less.
 

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Wake me after the crash. I figure after the video game industry finishes shitting its kidneys out from the massive enema it's desperate needing, we'll finally be able to get back to simplicity where we actually obtain the one thing we've always wanted most from the video game industry, decent games for a decent price without all the bullshit.
 

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I'll just do what I always do. Fold my arms and wait for something I'd actually play to come out, then make the choice based on what I know of the console by that point. I've never had any real console loyalty, I just go with whatever looks good at the time of buying. Right now I'm sort of edging away from the Xbox One and the WiiU is not something I have any interest in, so Sony will probably be back to taking my money after a long pause.

That being said, it'll be a good while before I even touch those things...mostly until I know what the next Dark Souls game will be on.
 

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kenu12345 said:
irishda said:
Welcome back kids to another edition of "New Generation Hatred", a joyous occasion where the next generation is hated because it seems different than the old one. Then a bunch of people will buy it, it'll slowly faze out the majority of the old consoles, and everyone will get used to it and forget they hated it because there are other things to complain about. Then the next series will be announced and lo the cycle will start anew.
so so true. Why does this have to happen every gen
Believe it or not, there was once a time when people were looking forward to the next generation. It's just that lately, far too much BS has been added to the mix.
 

Silentpony_v1legacy

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This is kinda where I'm at. I still only have one current gen console- a 360. I have no reason to get a xbox one or PS4. Maybe im in the minority on this one, but I don't think the current gen is done with. I see no reason for a whole new gen of consoles!
 

Silentpony_v1legacy

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This is kinda where I'm at. I still only have one current gen console- a 360. I have no reason to get a xbox one or PS4. Maybe im in the minority on this one, but I don't think the current gen is done with. I see no reason for a whole new gen of consoles!
 

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Honestly, none of the newer consoles appeal to me in the same way that the PS2 originally did (I did not even buy a PS3 until nearly 3 years after its release). The WiiU is, as Yahtzee said, unimpressive in the game line up. PS4, knowing SONY's tradition, will likely suck at launch and will take at least a year or two before the really good games start coming out. And the Xbox One? Yeah, I'm sorry Microsoft but you really dropped the ball at that presentation.

I'll give SONY some credit, in that they're also trying to ensure the PS Vita doesn't die out by making sure most of their PS4 games can be remote played with it. But, that assumes people actually want to buy the Vita in the first place.
 

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I agree with everything in the video, and I think the odds of this console generation causing another industry crash are pretty high.

I've loved console gaming since the 8-bit era, and have usually had more than one machine per generation, but with the way things look for the next gen I've decided to build a dedicated games pc and attach it to my tv. With the console architecture aligning with PCs, ports should be better than during the current gen, and the specs are much closer to an average rig than in previous generations.

Consoles have lost pretty much all the advantages they once had: they're expensive (especially when adding in extra costs like subscriptions and peripherals, and overall higher price of games), they're almost as much hassle (I have to enter a code for almost every game I play, install it to the HD, (re-)download updates, etc.), and are likely to restrict what I do with my games (used game restrictions/can't lend).

With both the PS4 and XBox One lacking backwards compatibility, there's literally no incentive for me to stick with them on account of my existing library. I'll miss out on a few exclusives but they are mostly going to be sequels to long in the tooth franchises like Halo and Gears anyway.
 

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Strain42 said:
I know it's not really fair to say this since the PS4 and XBO were only recently announced and haven't had the time to show off some of their games, but I think if I'm gonna buy any next gen consoles at all, it would be the Wii U.

I always hear people going "But it doesn't have any games!" and that may be true...but I know it's got a lot of stuff coming out that I'm going to want.

Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem, Yarn Yoshi, Super Luigi U, Super Smash Bros. 4, Rayman Legends, Game & Wario and that's just off the top of my head.

Honestly, I know it varies from person to person, but the Wii U has been announcing more games I have any interest in playing than we've gotten from the 360 in the past few years now.

But my rules for buying ANY console is that it has to have at least 10 titles I want before I consider buying it (and at least 5 must be console exclusive)

So I'm not really in any rush to buy any of the consoles right now.

Just that if I was to get any, the Wii U is currently the most likely.
Yeah, Nintendo will solve that problem by the end of the year and suddenly we'll all be wondering why people were ever demanding for Iwata's head on a silver platter. People said the same crap with the DS, the Wii, and the 3DS and every time they had to eat their words when sales picked up and titles kept coming. 3rd parties never get to fact that Nintendo's titles are indeed the system sellers for growing an install base...but even diehard Nintendo fans want something between 1st party titles. It's why stuff like RE: Revelations can succeed if the devs and pubs actually put some EFFORT into it. Heck, one of the most hotly anticipated titles for the 3DS right now is SMTIV. By end of the year the Wii U will be getting a bigger install base and suddenly third parties might want to be eyeing other avenues
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
Are you ready?
Yeah, you think you can tell us what to do (with a console)?
You think you can tell us what to play?
You think that your better (then what we have now)?
Well you better get ready
To bow to the master (race)
Break it down!
'CONSOLE DISGRACE'
lug ft, 'dvs'


it's a disgrace in the face of the master race!
outta pace outta space in the console race
'insert obnoxious techno bebop nonsense'

Chorous:
Are you ready?
Yeah, you think you can tell us what to do (with a console)?
You think you can tell us what to play?
You think that your better (then what we have now)?
Well you better get ready
To bow to the master (race)
Break it down!


sony's playing the safety dance, step left, step right
we got ram and a stick suckkas! that's right.
stick your social media innn the fight
beep, beep, split screen! ya'll got friends, er right?


Chorous:
Are you ready?
Yeah, you think you can tell us what to do (with a console)?
You think you can tell us what to play?
You think that your better (then what we have now)?
Well you better get ready
To bow to the master (race)
Break it down!

nintendon't know, what to do, they forgot the games
'whopety doo' it's got touch and sound,
gyro's 'n' stuff.. NFC what the reader's for?
sounds ( to me ) like a pile of fluff.

bloop blip, flippty trip.

Chorus:
Are you ready?
Yeah, you think you can tell us what to do (with a console)?
You think you can tell us what to play?
You think that your better (then what we have now)?
Well you better get ready
To bow to the master (race)
Break it down!

Micro, soft in the brain fliped out locked down
your money in the drain! boo hoo f%^$ you
we got hal 9000 stuck in the cloud, just..
DEAL WITH IT!

you did... red ring... oh, 'sigh' well s%^*



Yep, it's pretty terrible and with great effort it might be as bad as this generation..
( with allot of effort ).