Yeah. When you reach level 99 in Dragon's Crown, your characters should be drafted and put to good use on the kingdom's border, guarding a toll bridge, playing Papers, pleaseMagog1 said:
That would be fun.
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That would be fun.
This thread is hilarious from top to bottom. Apparently, my generation is going to run the world until we die. You younger folk are going to get steamrolled by life. Yahtzee's jokes weren't funny before the caricatures showed up in the comments and made them hilarious. Nobody cares how you feel; especially Yahtzee.
I'd like to see more games like Papers Please. I want to see a game where you're an adviser to a dictator (or a president, it doesn't matter) and you have to decide whether to help the leader's plans, or sabotage everything. You could decide to be a strongman and crush the leader's enemies, or get the military's support and overthrow the leader in a coup.
I'd like to see more games like Papers Please. I want to see a game where you're an adviser to a dictator (or a president, it doesn't matter) and you have to decide whether to help the leader's plans, or sabotage everything. You could decide to be a strongman and crush the leader's enemies, or get the military's support and overthrow the leader in a coup.
You all seem to be forgetting that there is no actual consensus in any of these matters (unless you count Tumblr as an expert in sexuality), only opinion. In my opinion, it is gay to suck dick (nothing wrong with that, though). And you can disagree as much as you want with me, but no one would be "right" or "wrong".
You keep repeating this as if it was fact. Which is not. Actually, I'm pretty sure this could just be classified as "an outright lie".Zombie Badger said:
Oh boy here we go.Reeve said:Isn't it a bit homophobic to even care whether sex with a transexual makes you gay or not? What's so bad about being gay, eh?
I did, and I don't think you understood his joke at all, the joke was that a regular man didn't consider himself gay because the person he was having sexual relations with would some day be a woman (even if he would never pursue them as a woman), that's not playground humour.JudgeGame said:
Incidentally I don't recall WWII Jews deserving public ridicule either, yet you are fine with that joke.
Even if you are a woman then?It is gay bro said:
My question to you then is that if a man were to lose his genitals in horrible accident, and then had sex with his girlfriend, what would that be classed as?Warachia said:
I would disagree with you on that point. As far as I can see he would be gay. I also think that if we continue this conversation we will simply be repeating the same points back to each other over and over, and it would be rather futile.Warachia said:
Okay, just to clear some stuff up...
-Why is the joke offensive?
Whether you agree with me or not, the joke is in bad taste because it's saying that sleeping with a pre op transsexual makes you gay, the implication (intentional or not) being that pre op transsexuals are men.
-Why don't you care about the jokes about jews and nazis, or any other group?
Because transsexuals are THE MOST at risk minority group for suicide, bullying, and a range of other really bad things. The transsexual youth suicide rate is around 25% at last counting, and by age 20, 50% of transsexual people will have made at least one suicide attempt. In the US, the it's estimated that 20-40% of the homeless youth are LGBT people (after parental rejection) with a particularly high percentage of those lgbt people being trans people. The Jewish population no longer suffers from such a high death rate, which makes the trans joke worse, but in reality, jokes about the holocaust arn't really okay either. Just this is MORE not okay.
-Nothing should be above ridiculue! Get a sense of humour!
It's not about being above ridicule, or being too precious to laugh at a joke at your own expense. The fact is that suicide rates, homelessness, etc etc are hugely influenced by rejection (by parents and society) and jokes of this kind popularise misconceptions about trans people, and create a social zeitgeist where trans people are freaks, to be shunned and rejected. This continues to drive up the suicide rates and the numbers of trans people being kicked out of their homes by their own parents for coming out. It's not about whether an individual person is offended, it's about the message that it sends to society as a whole. In hundreds of years time it may be okay to make such jokes, when it's 100% accepted that trans people arn't freaks and that these misconceptions no longer exist, in the same way that it's okay (though still maybe in bad taste) to make jokes about how left handed people were once burned as witches.
And this will be the last zero punctuation I ever watch. There's a difference between risqué humour, and promoting misconceptions that can harm a group that is killing itself left right and center. And before you say that things like that don't make a difference, just look at silence of the lambs. That movie on it's own set public perception of trans people back by 10 years, just because it promoted a misconception about trans people.
-Why is the joke offensive?
Whether you agree with me or not, the joke is in bad taste because it's saying that sleeping with a pre op transsexual makes you gay, the implication (intentional or not) being that pre op transsexuals are men.
-Why don't you care about the jokes about jews and nazis, or any other group?
Because transsexuals are THE MOST at risk minority group for suicide, bullying, and a range of other really bad things. The transsexual youth suicide rate is around 25% at last counting, and by age 20, 50% of transsexual people will have made at least one suicide attempt. In the US, the it's estimated that 20-40% of the homeless youth are LGBT people (after parental rejection) with a particularly high percentage of those lgbt people being trans people. The Jewish population no longer suffers from such a high death rate, which makes the trans joke worse, but in reality, jokes about the holocaust arn't really okay either. Just this is MORE not okay.
-Nothing should be above ridiculue! Get a sense of humour!
It's not about being above ridicule, or being too precious to laugh at a joke at your own expense. The fact is that suicide rates, homelessness, etc etc are hugely influenced by rejection (by parents and society) and jokes of this kind popularise misconceptions about trans people, and create a social zeitgeist where trans people are freaks, to be shunned and rejected. This continues to drive up the suicide rates and the numbers of trans people being kicked out of their homes by their own parents for coming out. It's not about whether an individual person is offended, it's about the message that it sends to society as a whole. In hundreds of years time it may be okay to make such jokes, when it's 100% accepted that trans people arn't freaks and that these misconceptions no longer exist, in the same way that it's okay (though still maybe in bad taste) to make jokes about how left handed people were once burned as witches.
And this will be the last zero punctuation I ever watch. There's a difference between risqué humour, and promoting misconceptions that can harm a group that is killing itself left right and center. And before you say that things like that don't make a difference, just look at silence of the lambs. That movie on it's own set public perception of trans people back by 10 years, just because it promoted a misconception about trans people.
Foreplay, at least that's what I'd say it would be because he has no genitals with which to have intercourse with, now if you were asking what the former man would be called, in most forms he would still be called a man, because he was born a man, and does not have any female genitals, they would ignore the fact that he no longer has male genitals, though on medical forms I'm pretty sure they'd clarify a little more and would have another term for it, but I could be wrong because I did not look up any cases where this has happened.Zombie Badger said:
Then let's try to end this, he's attracted to a person for their physical body and their mindset while they're in that gender, he's not attracted to the same person when they are a different gender, so if he only cares about the mentally men, but doesn't care for the same people when they are physically men, now, the majority of the world only cares about the physical attraction, meaning he's straight, but what would you call it? And if you call it gay, then why wouldn't he be attracted to the same person if they were the same gender as him?Zombie Badger said:
They are not guys though. They are transsexual women, regardless of the status of their genitalia. Do research before you go off spouting uneducated opinions.Reeve said:
Yeah. Tranny is a slur. You know that right? It's as bad as calling a gay man a "fag." I assume you didn't know this, unless of course you throw off the word fag all the time as well.Melion said:This is so amusing, you people are "offended" because of his tranny joke but not his other borderline racist jokes? Dear lord.
Alright, I'll say that the defining characteristic of a person's gender is their gender identity, which in the case of transgender people is as clearly defined as that of their desired gender as non-trans people's is of their physical gender, and that you cannot call a man who only sleeps with transwomen gay because of it.Warachia said:
Well, it's good we got this out of the way quickly.
Genetics be damned according to you. At what point does a Y chromosome factor in to your purportedly "educated" analysis? Subjective analysis = making shit up. STANDARDS - they're important. If "status of their genitalia" and Y chromosomes don't factor in at all, then there isn't a determining factor for gender. If that's the case, I'm going to claim I'm a black woman and take advantage of affirmative action right now. If anyone points out my light skin and penis, I'm going to chastise them for spouting off uneducated opinions.emmyisnotcool said:
And just to clear some things up:
I will NEVER commit suicide on another person. Also, I won't take responsibility for the actions of others. If transsexual people want to kill themselves that's their business. I will do nothing to stand in the way of people's rights of self-determination; whether that be their right to determine for themselves what gender/sexuality they will exhibit or whether or not they should be alive.
capcha: wild goose chase -- we're getting there
It'd be their fault for taking everything so fucking seriously. Me and my friends constantly shit on each other all the time and have a good laugh about it. It's only a hostile environment if you make it one.ErinBeee said:
Except you and your friends are friends. You understand it's all in good fun. A parent throwing their child out of their home at age 16 is not all in good fun. It's neglect. And it happens regularly because as long as people make jokes that deny what trans people are and treat them as freaks, it will continue to happen.CaptainChip said: