Zero Punctuation: Shadow of the Colossus
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It's popular... therefore you're not going to play it? That is terrible logic, and I hope you never get to play a good game ever again.Neino Ranatos said:
Anyway, while I don't care if Yahtzee reviews SCII or not (I mean, I already love the game, so it'd be nice to get a few laughs about it), it's really pathetic that he had to go back to a 2005 game just to avoid reviewing it. this is one of the most anticipated games ever, and he's just putting his fingers in his ears and shouting so he doesn't have to acknowledge it.
HEY, I think it's time Yahtzee reviewed some older games. that way we can comment on what game we want him to review next instead of picking the obvious new game that just came out. Plus I get a bit of that nostalgia feeling.Rogthgar said:
He didn't "rip it apart", he just said he didn't like strategy games. It's not like he insulted the story or the characters or the gameplay, he simply said he doesn't like strategy games. On a similar note, does that mean he only reviewed Halo Wars for another chance to say a Halo game wasn't good? I mean, why else would he play a Halo strategy game if he doesn't like Halo or Strategy games?oogabuga said:
I remember back when they had the beta for SC2 and some fag kid at the lunch table at school constantly bragged about having it while all his fag friends offered to suck his dick to play it. My friends watched and laughed.
Lately I've made a checklist of extra extraordinary games I missed playing out on for the past few years. I checked off Colossus about a year ago and went to MGS3 soon after. My friend let me borrow Resident Evil 4 so I should probably get started on that.
Lately I've made a checklist of extra extraordinary games I missed playing out on for the past few years. I checked off Colossus about a year ago and went to MGS3 soon after. My friend let me borrow Resident Evil 4 so I should probably get started on that.
I must have been sleeping under a rock or some shit because I never heard of this game getting rave reviews at the time of release, whenever that was. I tell you what; if they make a HD collection I'll pick it up when its in the bargain bin, otherwise I'm not arsed.
So you like it, fair enough, but there are current games that could be reviewed like, for example; Split/Second, Blur, Naughty Bear... pfft even the Toy Story 3 game! I do realise 2 of those are racers and the other 2 are abominations but a review of one of those would be more interesting than whatever the hell that vid was.
So you like it, fair enough, but there are current games that could be reviewed like, for example; Split/Second, Blur, Naughty Bear... pfft even the Toy Story 3 game! I do realise 2 of those are racers and the other 2 are abominations but a review of one of those would be more interesting than whatever the hell that vid was.
Nice review, I would like to play this game but I can't seem to find a copy of it.
I agree with him on the whole SC2 thing, it may be a good RTS but when you don't play that genre it that doesn't seem to matter.
Also, for the next review, may I suggest TimeSplitters 2?
I agree with him on the whole SC2 thing, it may be a good RTS but when you don't play that genre it that doesn't seem to matter.
Also, for the next review, may I suggest TimeSplitters 2?
Wow...ok this actually gets me hopeful that he might review Okami...I certainly hope he will, it will be interesting to hear Yahtzee's FULL partake on Okami. He did reference it in phantom of the hourglass LOZ review. (Don't pretend you don't see it)
Heck, I'm just happy to see Shadow of the Colossus getting an approving review that doesn't degenerate into "OMFG IS TEH MUST AWSUM THING EBER111". That was my biggest problem when I was trying to decide whether or not it was worth pursuing -- the reviews were extremely polarized between "OMFG IT SUX" and "OMFG IT ROX" and of the two, only the negative reviews seemed inclined to tell me why. The vague clues they gave seemed to imply that the game was a vast, empty and very boring wilderness where you wandered around for fifty hours and didn't do jack squat. Really, could a game truly feature sixteen enemies in total, almost no storyline whatsoever, no new weapons or special items until New Game + mode, and still be good?
Answer: Yup, shockingly, it really could. And did. I played Shadow of the Colossus from morning to night for a couple of days until I finished it. What explains how it could succeed is the fact that the developers made this glorified boss run a suitably epic experience. Bringing one down feels like an epic feat, and it should. With a sparse storyline filled with more innuendo than substance, Shadow of the Colossus evokes emotion by the sheer scale of what you do. Whether it's leading a colossus shaped like a yeti through an obstacle course of stone pillars that it smashes through with ease or climbing the gigantic sword of another in order to climb up its arm to its head, the game repeatedly recreates the staggering accomplishment seen in The Return of the King when Legolas climbs the mûmak and brings it down. Even the few small colossi are fierce and powerful enough to make you scramble to keep out of their way, and yet you know you'll have to somehow kill them as well.
What I loved about Shadow of the Colossus was how few cinemas there were in battle. At no point will you push a button and watch as your character leaps and flips and stabs automatically. This enhances the evocation of those emotions because it always feels like your task and your accomplishment, never something you're merely watching as an observer. Likewise, if you can't do it, the computer won't be doing it for you either.
I do have to admit that I never picked up on the fact that you can increase your grip gauge by killing lizards (you don't automatically get stronger by dint of killing them; you actually have to kill them and eat the tail) or raise your health meter by eating fruit (I've still yet to even find any). If you can do the time trial version of the bosses in a New Game +, you obtain items which allow you to better track down and find these, but some of those challenges feel more like a luck based mission.
I can definitely see why the average player wouldn't really like it -- it's very different from the average game. Short of epically missing the point about what kind of game it is, though, I find it difficult to understand how doing something like the shot below fails to evoke the proper response of "Holy crap awesome."
http://ps2.ign.com/dor/objects/490849/ico-ii/images/shadow-of-the-colossus-20050419055232107.html
Answer: Yup, shockingly, it really could. And did. I played Shadow of the Colossus from morning to night for a couple of days until I finished it. What explains how it could succeed is the fact that the developers made this glorified boss run a suitably epic experience. Bringing one down feels like an epic feat, and it should. With a sparse storyline filled with more innuendo than substance, Shadow of the Colossus evokes emotion by the sheer scale of what you do. Whether it's leading a colossus shaped like a yeti through an obstacle course of stone pillars that it smashes through with ease or climbing the gigantic sword of another in order to climb up its arm to its head, the game repeatedly recreates the staggering accomplishment seen in The Return of the King when Legolas climbs the mûmak and brings it down. Even the few small colossi are fierce and powerful enough to make you scramble to keep out of their way, and yet you know you'll have to somehow kill them as well.
What I loved about Shadow of the Colossus was how few cinemas there were in battle. At no point will you push a button and watch as your character leaps and flips and stabs automatically. This enhances the evocation of those emotions because it always feels like your task and your accomplishment, never something you're merely watching as an observer. Likewise, if you can't do it, the computer won't be doing it for you either.
I do have to admit that I never picked up on the fact that you can increase your grip gauge by killing lizards (you don't automatically get stronger by dint of killing them; you actually have to kill them and eat the tail) or raise your health meter by eating fruit (I've still yet to even find any). If you can do the time trial version of the bosses in a New Game +, you obtain items which allow you to better track down and find these, but some of those challenges feel more like a luck based mission.
I can definitely see why the average player wouldn't really like it -- it's very different from the average game. Short of epically missing the point about what kind of game it is, though, I find it difficult to understand how doing something like the shot below fails to evoke the proper response of "Holy crap awesome."
http://ps2.ign.com/dor/objects/490849/ico-ii/images/shadow-of-the-colossus-20050419055232107.html
Sooo wanna play this!!!
I actuly passed on thhis game when i was 10... I would slap my ten-year-old-self if I could-.-
I'm waiting for the collection.
I actuly passed on thhis game when i was 10... I would slap my ten-year-old-self if I could-.-
I'm waiting for the collection.
now if only they'd port the damn game to my PS3 since I don't want to replace the one I once had (before it took the last train to Bricked-Ville, and was traded in for an original xbox, refurb'd no less, which still works...!) I've heard rumors that this may actually happen, that'd be pretty great.
Feels he shouldn't have to watch a 18 second video before watching a free weekly news/review segment...feels the escapist owes him suddenly much?Sabbad said: