Zero Punctuation: Silent Hill Origins

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Ciarog

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hex1 said:
I don't know how you can diss Zim forums looking at your recent standards of writing. I mean come on, your humour's gone to hell, every other word is fag, shit, arse or cock. You spent too much time in America. Have a look at some of the old stuff on your site, or even the first two or so videos here. By comparison the recent stuff is pathetic. You can do better and I'd love to see it.
Very few people can consistently write reveiws of games that tend to be unique only in the manner in which they suck.
 

Midnight Voyager

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Um, let's see... *random criticism of reviews and how they suck* *offer to bear your children* *expression of undying love* etc, etc.

Eh, makes me laugh every week.

Anyway, I'd be thrilled if they decided simply to remake the older games to bloody well work better. I have never played more than a few minutes of the first and second Silent Hill games... which didn't really give me enough heart to go on. The camera and controls are frustrating to no end. If they remade them with updated graphics, better controls, and a better camera... that would be just ducky.

I know you don't like remakes, but that was Laura bloody Croft and this is something that could actually benefit from a remake. It'd bring Silent Hill to a new generation, so to speak.

Or to people like me, who didn't have the right system when the older ones came out and who can't adjust to the "What the hell is wrong with the mechanics here!?" curve.
 

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I kind of want them to remake the first Silent Hill, (just to update the graphics a little even though I still want to have grotesque pixelated sex with it) but I am afraid they're going to leave that to American companies who have no idea what the fuck they're doing... and then before you know it there is a worldwide mass suicide of fanatics thus rendering all intelligent life forms extinct.
And whoever said that "pre Kid-A" Radiohead sucked then may God have mercy on your drooling, fat and retarded soul.

"R.I.P. Silent Hill."
 

Demon Sultan

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I know that this is going to get me flack, but I have this discussion every time SH comes up. (I never played 4, so I'm not sure if this applies).

I understand the desire to have fear in a game, and that being Trenchcoat McBadass is going to detract from gameplay. I understand the need for 'normal' characters that are unable to simply wade through the remains of their slain enemies. But it seems that people want this taken too far, to the point where if the character has an idea what his/her arms are for, suddenly they are too combat capable and the game is no fun. SH goes beyond 'normal' and strays into an area where you wonder how difficult it might be for the character to eat with kitchen utensils. The combat system in SH made me think of trying to survive a scary situation as a paraplegic with down's syndrome. There's better ways of making a game hard than making a character suck miserably at life. Want that feeling of helplessness? Make the monsters more invincible or something. There's something sad about knowing that despite one's pasty flabbiness, one can still outperform the protagonist in basic physical tasks, to say nothing of combat. Once again, I'm not saying James Bond or Arnold Schwarzenegger need to be running around Silent Hill. I must also emphasize that the story more than makes up for it to the point where it is a better game than most that don't have this problem, and that I love the series (that I have played) to death. Just stop making excuses for the combat.

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GloatingSwine said:
Khakidoo said:
Haven't played Silent Hill in ages,...

That only applies to the movie. The town in the game isn't based on a single place, it's an amalgam of all the small towns in which horrific things happen in all the books of American horror authors.

Well, I'll be darned. I am apparently both pitifully out of touch with popular culture and semi-illiterate. I had no idea there was a Silent Hill Movie, even though right there in the wiki it says film. The shame... it burns...
 

Sylocat

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Demon Sultan said:
I understand the desire to have fear in a game, and that being Trenchcoat McBadass is going to detract from gameplay. I understand the need for 'normal' characters that are unable to simply wade through the remains of their slain enemies. But it seems that people want this taken too far, to the point where if the character has an idea what his/her arms are for, suddenly they are too combat capable and the game is no fun. SH goes beyond 'normal' and strays into an area where you wonder how difficult it might be for the character to eat with kitchen utensils. The combat system in SH made me think of trying to survive a scary situation as a paraplegic with down's syndrome. There's better ways of making a game hard than making a character suck miserably at life. Want that feeling of helplessness? Make the monsters more invincible or something. There's something sad about knowing that despite one's pasty flabbiness, one can still outperform the protagonist in basic physical tasks, to say nothing of combat. Once again, I'm not saying James Bond or Arnold Schwarzenegger need to be running around Silent Hill. I must also emphasize that the story more than makes up for it to the point where it is a better game than most that don't have this problem, and that I love the series (that I have played) to death. Just stop making excuses for the combat.
That's why I brought up the idea for having SH4 do away with all combat and just make it a Myst-style point-and-click discovery game.
In the Myst games, the protagonist has no combat skills, because he is an everyman, but it works because those games don't focus on killing baddies. Do the Myst games need baddies to make them interesting and atmospheric? No they do not. I think the SH games, SH4 in particular because of its unique story, could have compounded on that excellently by doing away with all combat and having it be all about the story.
 

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ladypyramidhead said:
And whoever said that "pre Kid-A" Radiohead sucked then may God have mercy on your drooling, fat and retarded soul.
I just had a word with him. He says you and the rest of the emos can go first. Call it natural selection. Hell, I'll be sure to mention you all at the next Darwin Awards. :p

RPJesus said:
I kinda hated the protagonist in SH3. Granted I never played that far, but I figured she wanted to die, so who am I to stand in her way?
Be honest, you're a chauvinist.

Anyway, Silent Hill 3 had a magnificently creepy moment near the end of the game, which I believe took place in the hospital? This is a minor spoiler if you haven't completed it: when entering one of the toilets (the room, not the cubicles), the door would lock behind you. Gradually the screen would erode, your vision becomes blurred, and everything around you gets covered with "noise". A dark red crawls along, staining the walls and floors. It moves towards you and eventually "grows" all over you, depleting your health. By this time you can run out the door again, and it's all a bit pointless. But completely, and utterly chilling.

It seemed that Silent Hill 4 would be full of little moments like this, but I just stopped playing after a few hours because I'd suddenly decided I just could not find any enjoyment in the combat any more. Interest killed completely. Shame, I'm sure I missed out on some more moments like the one above.
 

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hex1 said:
I don't know how you can diss Zim forums looking at your recent standards of writing. I mean come on, your humour's gone to hell, every other word is fag, shit, arse or cock. You spent too much time in America. Have a look at some of the old stuff on your site, or even the first two or so videos here. By comparison the recent stuff is pathetic. You can do better and I'd love to see it.
Whoo! Good one! Keep up the funny.
 

Bahakitty

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I always loved the silent hill series and I wanted to play origins just because I'm a rabid fan. But I don't have a PSP so I borrowed my friend's game in hopes that some dude would throw me a PSP but that hasn't happened yet. From the sound of it the game would only be good if you are a fan. Also hoping SH5 doesn't fail. There's also the house-of-the-dead spinoff I wanna try for the same rabid-fan reason. awesome review!
 

moromete

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Well, I haven't played any of the Silent Hill games yet this made me laugh... especially yhe press pause dig and the deleting bit at the end... Yes, I pause a lot while watching Yahtzee...
 
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hex1 said:
I don't know how you can diss Zim forums looking at your recent standards of writing. I mean come on, your humour's gone to hell, every other word is fag, shit, arse or cock. You spent too much time in America. Have a look at some of the old stuff on your site, or even the first two or so videos here. By comparison the recent stuff is pathetic. You can do better and I'd love to see it.
Honestly, I really can't say the older videos contain any less cursing, or anything much different from the recent reviews. The difference I noticed was the sound quality. Granted, this review isn't as good as any of the stuff before it.
 

abyssion1337

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The Summon Night series has the best weapon degradation ever, you're weapons' durabilities go back to full in between battles and breaking enimies' weapons is a good way to defeat them, if you defeat them using this tactic you can then get their weapon.
 

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Exodus74 said:
Ok..Yahtzee, but did you like the game? LOL Can't wait for your review on CoD4. Love your work!
If you listen to what he says your answer shall be receved. You don't have to actually say "I like this game," or, "I dilike this game," to actually say those things.
 

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PurpleRain said:
Exodus74 said:
Ok..Yahtzee, but did you like the game? LOL Can't wait for your review on CoD4. Love your work!
If you listen to what he says your answer shall be receved. You don't have to actually say "I like this game," or, "I dilike this game," to actually say those things.
I think you missed the sarcasm.
 

samuraixyz

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Er... didn't Silent Hill 2 take place in Silent Hill still? SH4 was the one that didn't take place in that town.