Zero Punctuation: SimCity

Recommended Videos

evilneko

Fall in line!
Jun 16, 2011
2,218
49
53
dharmaBum0 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
I haven't played a SimCity game in years...

Maybe I should get 4, since that's widely considered as one of the best?
You'll hear from a lot of old-school SimCity players that say 2/3000 was the pinnacle of the series, but I don't quite understand why. SC4 did everything those games did better and did it's own things well too.

SC4 still has an active modding community, and still manages to look pretty good (minus the silly portraits of the advisers). A big complaint is that it's pretty hard, which it is at first.
I'll explain why.

I don't recall zones refusing to populate unless a road was on a specific side of them in SimCity 2000, the best SimCity.

I do recall this happening in 4.

And you had no control over which side the the zone wanted its road on.

And if that fucked up your plan, well that's just too damn bad.

Fuck you, SimCity 4.

I hate you.

And your retarded arrows, too.
 

Inferus Eques

New member
Mar 30, 2013
17
0
0
GildaTheGriffin said:
Iron Criterion said:
GildaTheGriffin said:
Yahtzee Croshaw said:
SimCity

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews SimCity.

Watch Video
Wow. I like how you blame EA for the way the game is set up. Maxis made the game, they are the ones for the DRM stuff. EA just handled the funding. No reason to get mad at them.
And who do you think vehemently demanded the always on DRM be included?
EA did. But the multiplayer designed came from the people at Maxis. EA just doesn't want more pirates stealing from them. Would you like it if someone stole from you? Maybe DRM wouldn't happen if people in the community controlled themselves and just bought them. There's no reason to complain if your the one causing the problem.
Well yeah, but you have to consider the fact most if not all pirates I knew wouldn't have bought the game anyways. Heck I used to pirate back in high school when I didn't have much money to buy games, but even then if I liked the game I actually bought it when I could. I don't pirate now, but then again I don't buy a lot of new games either. A part of that is BS like this. I feel exactly the same as Yahtzee about merely installing Origin on my computer just because I've been so disgusted with EA's customer service. So, why should they continue to be jerks and punish the PAYING customers? All this does is give people an incentive to pirate because what extra benefit do they get for actually paying for it? I believe it's a matter of attitude. The company needs to accept there will be pirates and try to find ways to be more consumer friendly, not the other way around. In the end they will just alienate their consumer base and demonize themselves. Fault is a two way street.
 

GildaTheGriffin

New member
Jul 4, 2012
80
0
0
Inferus Eques said:
GildaTheGriffin said:
Iron Criterion said:
GildaTheGriffin said:
Yahtzee Croshaw said:
SimCity

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews SimCity.

Watch Video
Wow. I like how you blame EA for the way the game is set up. Maxis made the game, they are the ones for the DRM stuff. EA just handled the funding. No reason to get mad at them.
And who do you think vehemently demanded the always on DRM be included?
EA did. But the multiplayer designed came from the people at Maxis. EA just doesn't want more pirates stealing from them. Would you like it if someone stole from you? Maybe DRM wouldn't happen if people in the community controlled themselves and just bought them. There's no reason to complain if your the one causing the problem.
Well yeah, but you have to consider the fact most if not all pirates I knew wouldn't have bought the game anyways. Heck I used to pirate back in high school when I didn't have much money to buy games, but even then if I liked the game I actually bought it when I could. I don't pirate now, but then again I don't buy a lot of new games either. A part of that is BS like this. I feel exactly the same as Yahtzee about merely installing Origin on my computer just because I've been so disgusted with EA's customer service. So, why should they continue to be jerks and punish the PAYING customers? All this does is give people an incentive to pirate because what extra benefit do they get for actually paying for it? I believe it's a matter of attitude. The company needs to accept there will be pirates and try to find ways to be more consumer friendly, not the other way around. In the end they will just alienate their consumer base and demonize themselves. Fault is a two way street.
Punish paying customers? I got a free $40 dollar game because they accepted they did wrong from launch day. Also companies wouldn't put guidelines for anti-piracy if they wasn't none! As I said, back in the 1600s merchant ships had to carry less supplies and more guns because of pirates. Settlements starved and towns became abandoned or dried up because of the lack of food. Pirates are nothing but lazy jackasses that detriment the community and society.
 

duchaked

New member
Dec 25, 2008
4,450
0
0
a poo map...now that's innovation

all we need now is a minecraft sequel where we can build plumbing systems :p
 

FalloutJack

Bah weep grah nah neep ninny bom
Nov 20, 2008
15,485
0
0
major_chaos said:
Now that I've had a chance to look around, I think I'd better say something before somebody else does.

Hey, buddy? I think that on here...you are the vocal minority. Can't say for sure about other places, 'cause I don't go there, but I would hazard a GUESS that there are alot of unhappy people who aren't just a hate crowd. They're the torches-and-pitchforks crowd with a burning effigy and some grenade launchers. They're not being 'smug'. They're getting ready to lynch some people hardcore for being assholes. And by assholes, I don't mean the REAL vocal minority, which are those who might defend the assholes for...whatever reason.

Your position...makes you sound like you just want to be disagreeable to screw around with 'em, not necessarily because you believe in the other side. I mean, honestly, what kind of reason is that? Because you thought people were smug. Does the irony of your actions here not strike you as funny even? Well, this may come as a big shock to you, but sometimes it doesn't matter what others think about the hammer's ability to hit the nail on the head. THEY GOT IT. The game is terrible, the developer's a handpuppet, the company has no legs to stand on, and you're arguing the point on a board that hates them.

This is the part where you just live and let live, not comment. It doesn't help to linger and debate in the Valley of Snark.
 

Inferus Eques

New member
Mar 30, 2013
17
0
0
GildaTheGriffin said:
Inferus Eques said:
GildaTheGriffin said:
Iron Criterion said:
GildaTheGriffin said:
Yahtzee Croshaw said:
SimCity

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews SimCity.

Watch Video
Wow. I like how you blame EA for the way the game is set up. Maxis made the game, they are the ones for the DRM stuff. EA just handled the funding. No reason to get mad at them.
And who do you think vehemently demanded the always on DRM be included?
EA did. But the multiplayer designed came from the people at Maxis. EA just doesn't want more pirates stealing from them. Would you like it if someone stole from you? Maybe DRM wouldn't happen if people in the community controlled themselves and just bought them. There's no reason to complain if your the one causing the problem.
Well yeah, but you have to consider the fact most if not all pirates I knew wouldn't have bought the game anyways. Heck I used to pirate back in high school when I didn't have much money to buy games, but even then if I liked the game I actually bought it when I could. I don't pirate now, but then again I don't buy a lot of new games either. A part of that is BS like this. I feel exactly the same as Yahtzee about merely installing Origin on my computer just because I've been so disgusted with EA's customer service. So, why should they continue to be jerks and punish the PAYING customers? All this does is give people an incentive to pirate because what extra benefit do they get for actually paying for it? I believe it's a matter of attitude. The company needs to accept there will be pirates and try to find ways to be more consumer friendly, not the other way around. In the end they will just alienate their consumer base and demonize themselves. Fault is a two way street.
Punish paying customers? I got a free $40 dollar game because they accepted they did wrong from launch day. Also companies wouldn't put guidelines for anti-piracy if they wasn't none! As I said, back in the 1600s merchant ships had to carry less supplies and more guns because of pirates. Settlements starved and towns became abandoned or dried up because of the lack of food. Pirates are nothing but lazy jackasses that detriment the community and society.
You're right, to a degree, but you can't really compare the pirates who torrent games to pirates who board ships shoot people and steal supplies and luxuries both. No lives are lost, no one loses vital life sustaining resources. Besides, my original point was that most pirates probably were not going to buy the game anyways. Unlike the old time pirates who were true parasitics and just lived off of stealing food and luxuries from others. These guys now don't live off of stealing video games. It isn't moral and people shouldn't do it all the same, but there are enough selfish pricks who will and that's something game companies need to realize. Considering that most the people (in my experience) who steal games wouldn't have even bought them in the first place, so where are the lost dollars? Not that huge of a percent, so it really isn't a problem worth nuking. Make it hard to steal but don't make your customers go through extra hoops as a result. I'm glad you were reimbursed, I hope lots of people were and EA's big wigs will learn from this whole thing. Plus, I hope they learn not everyone ogles online features...
 

JohnnyDelRay

New member
Jul 29, 2010
1,321
0
0
Extruding Arseholes, ahhhah oh man I can't breathe...

Best video in a while, but then I haven't watched any for awhile since I tend to wait till I've actually played the game before watching the corresponding ZP. I didn't mind the fact that Maxxis wanted more multiplayer interaction with the regions and stuff, but I still find it surprising the extent to which it's forced on. I mean I loved building a whole region of my own with neighboring cities, what if I don't want to link up with someone else. And terraforming to meet the different needs was excellent, why would they take that out, it's only the boundaries that need to match up.

Anyways, last sim game I tried (Sim City Societies) was also a train wreck, I'm quite sad to see this franchise go into the ground, for me at least.
 

Doboromon

New member
Dec 16, 2012
1
0
0
I wonder how yahtzee decides when to use an imp as a representation of a woman and when to draw a zero punctuation type woman.
 

ResonanceSD

Elite Member
Legacy
Dec 14, 2009
4,536
5
43
Actually Origin is fairly inoffensive. SimCity on the other hand, is absolutely horrible.

Although I did get a free copy of Mass Effect 3 from EA, so not all bad.
 

KiKiweaky

New member
Aug 29, 2008
970
0
0
not letting any of ea's filth any where near my pc, you can keep your games and I'll keep my money guys cheers <3
 

13

New member
Nov 24, 2012
4
0
0
I'm just happy of the universal consensus that EA is evil and deserving of an enema.
 

duchaked

New member
Dec 25, 2008
4,450
0
0
hahahahaha
"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY GAYS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"
gosh I was dying by that point xD

this one was just too good. and of course made all the points we've been thinking
 

Extragorey

New member
Dec 24, 2010
566
0
0
My favourite ZP in a while. Well done, Yahtzee!
Because everyone loves hating on EA. Though I still remember their glory days (around the time that all their logos whispered "challenge everything" at the end) or even earlier, when their logo was just a square, circle, and triangle.
But I loved the whole depiction of Origin in the first minute of the video. Bravo indeed.
 

Apostate

New member
Apr 25, 2013
2
0
0
duchaked said:
hahahahaha
"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY GAYS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"
gosh I was dying by that point xD

this one was just too good. and of course made all the points we've been thinking
Its a joke made in bad taste, would you find....

"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY BLACKS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"

Just as funny? Still love the show, but you went a bit far with this one Yahtzee Croshaw.
 

duchaked

New member
Dec 25, 2008
4,450
0
0
Apostate said:
duchaked said:
hahahahaha
"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY GAYS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"
gosh I was dying by that point xD

this one was just too good. and of course made all the points we've been thinking
Its a joke made in bad taste, would you find....

"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY BLACKS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"

Just as funny? Still love the show, but you went a bit far with this one Yahtzee Croshaw.
well I'm not white so sooner or later (sooner) there will be jokes coming in at my racial expense.

I could be offended by it, but I really don't have the time for it...
 

Apostate

New member
Apr 25, 2013
2
0
0
duchaked said:
Apostate said:
duchaked said:
hahahahaha
"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY GAYS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"
gosh I was dying by that point xD

this one was just too good. and of course made all the points we've been thinking
Its a joke made in bad taste, would you find....

"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY BLACKS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"

Just as funny? Still love the show, but you went a bit far with this one Yahtzee Croshaw.
well I'm not white so sooner or later (sooner) there will be jokes coming in at my racial expense.

I could be offended by it, but I really don't have the time for it...
The joke in question wasnt made at your "racial expense" in the video. I was merely using it as an example of how homophobic jokes or comments are more acceptable in media than racist ones. If the joke in question was about a city being assaulted by the hand of God because it had too many Blacks, Asians, Jews or whatever. There would be an out cry to have the video removed or altered. I know Yahtzee Croshaw isnt some gaybashing maniac, but the joke was made in bad taste.
 

duchaked

New member
Dec 25, 2008
4,450
0
0
Apostate said:
duchaked said:
Apostate said:
duchaked said:
hahahahaha
"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY GAYS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"
gosh I was dying by that point xD

this one was just too good. and of course made all the points we've been thinking
Its a joke made in bad taste, would you find....

"THY TOWN HATH TOO MANY BLACKS
GONNA BURN THY HONKY ASS"

Just as funny? Still love the show, but you went a bit far with this one Yahtzee Croshaw.
well I'm not white so sooner or later (sooner) there will be jokes coming in at my racial expense.

I could be offended by it, but I really don't have the time for it...
The joke in question wasnt made at your "racial expense" in the video. I was merely using it as an example of how homophobic jokes or comments are more acceptable in media than racist ones. If the joke in question was about a city being assaulted by the hand of God because it had too many Blacks, Asians, Jews or whatever. There would be an out cry to have the video removed or altered. I know Yahtzee Croshaw isnt some gaybashing maniac, but the joke was made in bad taste.
Would there be an outcry?