Wrist waggling is not fun, it's annoying in my opinion and that would drag the game down. And it would be better being played with a GC controller. The only thing I disagree on is that Super Mario Sunshine was rubbish, I actually liked playing about with FLUDD (the water pistol thing for those that don't know), even though it occasionally (read: always) got frustrating after a while. That's just the way it is. But the best platformer of them all is some kind of hybrid between the Jak and Ratchet series, and nothing to do with Nintendo.
Zero Punctuation: Super Mario Galaxy
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Do I detect someone in the games industry bitter about an unfavourable review?Lucien21 said:
I agree with your point to an extent but please don't talk about developer's games like they're innocent victims being aimlessly slaughtered by critics. Games are created for profit by companies who only care about end-user experience because it enhances their brand value.
Works created within any type of media will always be criticised, if developers want good reviews then they should make better games!
heh i liked the part with water world and the kevin costner pic
well i also think that the mario franchise is overused, pitfully i dont think they would make a new franchise when the old ones still being succesfull.
at least would be nice to have a bit more of storyline but i dont see that happening, and i played mario galaxy and i liked.
well i also think that the mario franchise is overused, pitfully i dont think they would make a new franchise when the old ones still being succesfull.
at least would be nice to have a bit more of storyline but i dont see that happening, and i played mario galaxy and i liked.
You realize if you looked at everything in life with that perspective you'd find there's no originality in ANYTHING? go ahead, try it for youself. if, after one year, you can find something in any aspect of life that didn't come out of something else 25 or 50 or 100 years ago at least, i'll eat my words.Lucien21 said:
and btw, he's only been doing this for, i dunno, like 5 months? and you're going out of your say to essentially call him washed up? led zeppelin and queen made some shitty records from time to time but nobody called them tiresome, and they bounced back every time. so quit talking like a PR shithead from BMG.
You know, you brought up the same question thats bothered me about mario galaxy
what the fuck will they do to him next?
Maybe some people think it's time to put the pumber to sleep, but honestly, mario may have been going for...ever now, and they pritty much have the same plot and general gameplay every time, but I can say hand on heart that I've never played a bad mario game. you can't really go wrong when buying a mario game, if your not getting a great game atleast you know your not getting a shit one.
Anyway, from all the reviews i've read, I've come to the conclusion that if i ever get a Wii, Mario Galaxy is the first game im getting
Oh, and sorry Zero but this is honestly the shittest review you've done, I didn't laugh once *sad face*. Hope for a better one next week
what the fuck will they do to him next?
Maybe some people think it's time to put the pumber to sleep, but honestly, mario may have been going for...ever now, and they pritty much have the same plot and general gameplay every time, but I can say hand on heart that I've never played a bad mario game. you can't really go wrong when buying a mario game, if your not getting a great game atleast you know your not getting a shit one.
Anyway, from all the reviews i've read, I've come to the conclusion that if i ever get a Wii, Mario Galaxy is the first game im getting
Oh, and sorry Zero but this is honestly the shittest review you've done, I didn't laugh once *sad face*. Hope for a better one next week
Can never understand why people expect Shakespeare out of Mario. Do you ever get to see a gripping sex scene between Popeye and Olive Oyl, let alone see the dynamic change between him, Bluto, and the ditzy rubber-legged slag? Do you ever see Mr. Bean suddenly have a nervous breakdown and confess to Teddy his first name and that he's gay? No, and why? Because all of that, however interesting, is not the point of those characters. The point of those characters ARE their usual antics. Popeye's out to do absurd physical feats with his spinach. Mr. Bean is here to give us physical comedy. Mario exists to jump on colorful platforms/enemies. The rest is really incidental to this, pretty much proven so everytime, so why get angry when it's not there? Love it or hate it.
To be honest, when I hear the complaints and bashings about Mario not having some sort of epic storyline, it just makes me think "thou doth protest too much". If you really think Mario is a "git", then you really wouldn't care about him at all enough to complain. I'm sure you can tell a riveting story with Mario (he's a fat Italian plumber from Brooklyn living in Wonderland after defeating a giant gorilla, that's worlds of possibilities), or really anybody, and I'd actually wouldn't mind seeing it with Mario, but that's not what Miyamoto has in mind. The man enjoys his Disney and Depression-era cartoon characters, Mario is a giant homage to them, let him and us enjoy that or stop playing.
Otherwise, excellent review. To the bashers, the point of criticism IS to foster debate and discussion, not gush over what you like as well (unless you are a critic from the MSM, whom 99% thereof feel their opinion is holy writ).
To be honest, when I hear the complaints and bashings about Mario not having some sort of epic storyline, it just makes me think "thou doth protest too much". If you really think Mario is a "git", then you really wouldn't care about him at all enough to complain. I'm sure you can tell a riveting story with Mario (he's a fat Italian plumber from Brooklyn living in Wonderland after defeating a giant gorilla, that's worlds of possibilities), or really anybody, and I'd actually wouldn't mind seeing it with Mario, but that's not what Miyamoto has in mind. The man enjoys his Disney and Depression-era cartoon characters, Mario is a giant homage to them, let him and us enjoy that or stop playing.
Otherwise, excellent review. To the bashers, the point of criticism IS to foster debate and discussion, not gush over what you like as well (unless you are a critic from the MSM, whom 99% thereof feel their opinion is holy writ).
That, plus Portal being innovative and fun as opposed to all the games today stinking up the place with good graphics and gameplay as deep as a teaspoon.u2rocksbaby said:
Kwil said:
And Yahtzee complaining that a Mario game is lacking in the story department is like complaining a shoe store doesn't sell authentic iron greaves used in the Battle of Crécy, so we're both allowed to have our respective opinions.
Nice ironic use of "Fly me to the Moon" since Super Mario Galaxy does a last minute Evangelion complete with "Congratulations!"
I wonder why Yahtzee never went more over the issue that Princess Peach really is just a cockteasing ***** or why Luigi likes to crossdress despite having an ending with Rosetta/Rosalina.
And I wouldn't worry about Nintendo having new franchises to whore: Pikmin looks very well on its way to becoming a Mario replacement.
I wonder why Yahtzee never went more over the issue that Princess Peach really is just a cockteasing ***** or why Luigi likes to crossdress despite having an ending with Rosetta/Rosalina.
And I wouldn't worry about Nintendo having new franchises to whore: Pikmin looks very well on its way to becoming a Mario replacement.
Mario Games "proper" ones, I don?t buy any of the other ones continue to sell because they are consistently good and always introduce a new element that is the essence of that particular game. Mario 3 introduced flying, Mario World introduced Yoshi, Mario 64 was in 3d etc etc, so each game is original in its own way. The last thing Mario needs is a story or personality look what happened Sonic, the series brought nothing new to the table so therefore died. I don?t know why people refer to the Wii's capabilities as gimmicks every game and console has a gimmick, Blu Ray is a gimmick, the system in Portal is a gimmick, you could take that argument to infinity+1. In a market that's now populated with generic gangster games and EA games (they require their own classification) I for one am glad that you can rely on a Mario game to come out every few years, except Mario 2 that was shit.
So true, if you want a deep story line then drop that Mario game and get yourself a Metal Gear Solid or a Final Fantasy game. Just picture how pretentious a Mario game would be with an epic gripping story and deep dialog. Besides I personally couldn't care less for in game stories, my gaming career (if you can call it that) has gotten to a point where I really don't pay attention to stories (I keep skiping cut-scenes all the time and when I can't skip them I take the moment to stand up, stretch, get a glass of water or order some food) there are a lot of good books to read and great movies to watch so I really rely on a GOOD game (read game play) to be able to enjoy myself (I'm sure a lot of people my age feel the same way).viciousmaniac said:
I'm not too sure about this one. It had everything I should like, but Yahtzee sounded kinda beaten and tired. There was something lacking in the Glee department. I don't know why exactly.
Oh well. Keep it up old boy anyway. Looking forward to more meta-gaming and/or gaming culture commentary. Yahtzee's year in games would be awesome.
Oh well. Keep it up old boy anyway. Looking forward to more meta-gaming and/or gaming culture commentary. Yahtzee's year in games would be awesome.