So true, if you want a deep story line then drop that Mario game and get yourself a Metal Gear Solid or a Final Fantasy game. Just picture how pretentious a Mario game would be with an epic gripping story and deep dialog. Besides I personally couldn't care less for in game stories, my gaming career (if you can call it that) has gotten to a point where I really don't pay attention to stories (I keep skiping cut-scenes all the time and when I can't skip them I take the moment to stand up, stretch, get a glass of water or order some food) there are a lot of good books to read and great movies to watch so I really rely on a GOOD game (read game play) to be able to enjoy myself (I'm sure a lot of people my age feel the same way).viciousmaniac said:Can never understand why people expect Shakespeare out of Mario. Do you ever get to see a gripping sex scene between Popeye and Olive Oyl, let alone see the dynamic change between him, Bluto, and the ditzy rubber-legged slag? Do you ever see Mr. Bean suddenly have a nervous breakdown and confess to Teddy his first name and that he's gay? No, and why? Because all of that, however interesting, is not the point of those characters. The point of those characters ARE their usual antics. Popeye's out to do absurd physical feats with his spinach. Mr. Bean is here to give us physical comedy. Mario exists to jump on colorful platforms/enemies. The rest is really incidental to this, pretty much proven so everytime, so why get angry when it's not there? Love it or hate it.
To be honest, when I hear the complaints and bashings about Mario not having some sort of epic storyline, it just makes me think "thou doth protest too much". If you really think Mario is a "git", then you really wouldn't care about him at all enough to complain. I'm sure you can tell a riveting story with Mario (he's a fat Italian plumber from Brooklyn living in Wonderland after defeating a giant gorilla, that's worlds of possibilities), or really anybody, and I'd actually wouldn't mind seeing it with Mario, but that's not what Miyamoto has in mind. The man enjoys his Disney and Depression-era cartoon characters, Mario is a giant homage to them, let him and us enjoy that or stop playing.
Otherwise, excellent review. To the bashers, the point of criticism IS to foster debate and discussion, not gush over what you like as well (unless you are a critic from the MSM, whom 99% thereof feel their opinion is holy writ).
To be awarded "Game of the Year" the title doesn't only have to be good; it has to be recent. It is similar to the Oscar-effect, where christmas-launched movies seem fresher than others.TheTakenOne said:Edit: And personally I think the "Game Of the Year" title is frivolous anyway. A lot of my favorite games would never be considered Game Of the Year by any review site but it doesn't make me love the game any less. If you really need a whole community to agree with you on the greatness of a game for you to lend credibility to your argument that it's so great, then why even form your own opinion?
That's exactly what MG is ^^ innovative & fun, no story or (outstanding) graphics. So I wonder, if the exact game would be made but with non-mario graphics, I guess even Yathzee would find it indie enough to love itMalidictuim said:That, plus Portal being innovative and fun as opposed to all the games today stinking up the place with good graphics and gameplay as deep as a teaspoon.u2rocksbaby said:It makes sense that you couldn't find anything wrong with a game as short as Portal, actually. A shorter game has lower expectations.
indeedAnd Yahtzee complaining that a Mario game is lacking in the story department is like complaining a shoe store doesn't sell authentic iron greaves used in the Battle of Crécy, so we're both allowed to have our respective opinions.
Haha! Now THAT is comedy.laikenf said:So true, if you want a deep story line then drop that Mario game and get yourself a Metal Gear Solid or a Final Fantasy game.
And Bioshock, and he never said he didn't like Mass Effect either.Malidictuim said:He liked Psychonauts and Portal.Lucien21 said:Wow, this is getting seriously tiresome.
Is there anything this guy actually likes?
He's not paid for objective reviews, he's paid to rip games to pieces. He revels in the fun of dismantling years of development as he takes one of the games of the year and throws it to the lions, The fevered crowd wait for the carnage.
All hail Caeser.
just described the entire mario franchise right thereHence the reason it's tiresome. Same shit different game.
okaaay and what franchise isn't then?Asamof said:just described the entire mario franchise right thereHence the reason it's tiresome. Same shit different game.
zelda too
tobyornottoby said:So, it's not that it's not a review. It is that it is not /your/ review.I don't get the things I want from a review:
- I want a review to be more serious, because every joke is 1 informative line less: I get very little information about the game from ZP
- I want information about the game, not the context: When I read a review, I want to know what Zelda and Mario are like, not that N should try new things
- I want unbiased reviews, or maybe written by someone with my likes & dislikes
so yeah, it's 99% entertainment and 1% review for me
Though I personally am not sold on the "reviews r SEERIUS BIZNIS" idea. I kind of like context relevant jokes. And while I might concede that, on other games, I would like to know what the characters are like et al, I'm pretty certain that at this late date, I rather know what Mario and Zelda are like. Though you were probably referring to gameplay, and I think, rather, it covered that fairly well. No, you won't get all 100% of the information regarding every nuance of the game, but I have yet to see a review that does that well.
You might prefer gametrailers.com, for your "hmmm should I buy this game?" wonderment.