Zero Punctuation: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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I've watched the review a couple of times now, and he also makes a fairly clear point about the only thing that you have to do to qualify as a fanboy is -being good at the game.- Oops, sorry. I'm still cool if I play casually once every few days and make certain that I lose, but if I have the audacity to actually like the game enough to want to get good at it, I'm a fanboy twat now? Come on, give me a break.corronchilejano said:
And I am incapable of comprehending why people can be mad at games for making them unlock certain features. He wanted to play as Sonic and he wasn't available right out of the box. Oh what a tragedy. I think that's because he was supposed to be a reward, and when you look at most video games and what you have to do to unlock features, I think the designers are more often looking at it with the mindset that people are going to be playing the game because they enjoy it, not because it's a fucking chore, because if it's a chore, why are you playing it?
If I complained about a first-person shooter not giving me infinite ammo with all weapons and invulnarability right out of the box, or an RPG not giving me the ending movie cinematic off of the opening options menu, you would all think I was a moron, but a fighting game making you actually play the game in multiplayer mode with your friends for -an hour and a half- to unlock a character and suddenly the house is burning down? Please.
Wiser people than I have expressed the opinion that they feel sorry for people who's job is to be a professional game reviewer because rather than being able to enjoy a game for why it's fun, they're forced to play it on a deadline and, oftentimes, play games at all that ordinarily they wouldn't enjoy. I think this is a perfect example of that. I feel sorry that Yahtzee had to review a game that he wasn't interested in. Maybe next time, if he has the choice, he will stick to stuff that he isn't biased against.
You can like a game and not be biased. There are a few problems with Brawl even though I love the game. For example. Hold down the A button as most characters and they do the first punch of their combo attack over and over again every other frame. No idea why it happens and I'm pretty sure it's a bug. Another example is some of the stages make it hard for some characters to recover because it has a little overhang for an edge and you could get stuck in it.SolArc said:
But even with it's flaws it's a fun game. I'm not biased towards it by being a fanboy of Nintendo or the game itself. I just like the game and can recognize it's good qualities and how much they outweigh the bad.
Also everyone who's saying "It's just for comedy" and stuff: that may or may not be true. But if it is true, then people shouldn't be taking his reviews seriously at the start. I want a review for a game so I know if I should spend money on it or not. Reviews like this don't help. It's good for a laugh or two, even though his latest reviews haven't been as funny as his earlier ones. But for a review of a game, it doesn't stand up.
Look at how angry everyone is. Yahtzee knows we already know what Brawl is good for (I should hope), and is bringing its faults to the foreground. It's okay for people to like or dislike games. Geez.
Apparently it's not, 'cause look at all the pages and pages of comments o.o; But anywho...It's a review and one single review should not stop you from buying a game. It's up to you what you may or may not like. I like the Armored Core series and look at the reviews it normally gets...
You know, after looking at the whole Smash Bros. series through the eyes of Yahtzee, I can understand the frustration of playing the game. I have it at home and I just don't have the patience to sit in front of my televisionfor countless hours trying to unlock some character that probably suck anyway. I was thinking about buying it, but I was instantly reminded of what I couldn't stand about the previous games. It's not because of the review by Yahtzee, but it's because I just don't have the patience for it. Great review! Keep 'em coming!
Attention argument about unlocking Sonic: I got him, on multiplayer, before I got the "100 matches" announcement. I'm 100% sure of this (your announcements are recorded for you). It is possible that there is another way in multi to do it besides 300. Apparently. Whatever.
Also, 144, don't post that this does not matter. If it does not matter, DON'T F**KING POST, let the people who care get their messages read.
Also, 144, don't post that this does not matter. If it does not matter, DON'T F**KING POST, let the people who care get their messages read.
There is, spend 10 hours playing Brawls. I don't think that method will really help solve Yahtzee's problem, though.Joined to vote Valve said:
That was ten cut down to 2.5 thank to four of us playing, though. So it does help.Xenoveritas said:
I'm fairly certain that's not how it works. It's 10 hours in brawls, not 10 hours total per player. So no matter how many players you have going, it's still 10 hours.Joined to vote Valve said:
I could be wrong, but there's no way I'm going to try and check.
I just want to clear this up: I'm not starting an argument, I'm just correcting. The time in Brawls to unlock a character "thing" -is- based on number of players. So, time actually played times the number of people currently playing in the match. Almost all characters in Smash can be unlocked in this way, simply playing multiplayer, though there are usually easier ways to unlock most of them. This is how it has been since throughout the franchise.Xenoveritas said:
And, incidentally, because there's been such a big deal about it, I just looked it up on Smash Dojo, and an alternate way to unlock Sonic is simply to beat Classic mode with 10 or more characters, which is a hell of a lot easier than either of the other things, but since one of Yahtzee's points was that he didn't want to play the single player, I was trying to play devil's advocate.
Not in this one. In this game, the only consistent way to unlock characters is number of matches played. Note that's matches, so it doesn't divide per player.ArchmageDale said:
Sonic is the only character that can be unlocked based on time. Together with Ness, he's the only character that can be unlocked in multiplayer by any method other than number of matches played.
All the other methods involve single player modes.
I unlocked Sonic in definitely less time than 10 hours and way less than 300 matches. I had gone through single player (classic mode) with only 3 characters, and and only 4 times combined.
So you're all wrong in my eyes. >_<
EDIT: I read some threads, and it looks like I'm not alone. There's rumors that there may be more ways to unlock him such as running X distance, playing a 10 minute match, or that he just comes randomly. But I'm sure everyone has stopped caring.
So you're all wrong in my eyes. >_<
EDIT: I read some threads, and it looks like I'm not alone. There's rumors that there may be more ways to unlock him such as running X distance, playing a 10 minute match, or that he just comes randomly. But I'm sure everyone has stopped caring.
its actually takes about 120 or so brawls. plus, it took me less than an hour to get sonic.
all you have to do is go to special brawl, set stamina flower brawl, then set the 3 computer or human players to 1 hp (not yourself). then do random maps until you have to fight an unlockable. and they're easy.
all you have to do is go to special brawl, set stamina flower brawl, then set the 3 computer or human players to 1 hp (not yourself). then do random maps until you have to fight an unlockable. and they're easy.