I wish I could go to Game Traders Robina... alas I live in the UK where the government shits all over you and expects you to pay money for the priviledge. Closest thing we have is Gamestation and that sucks a big fat hairy Donkey Face
Zero Punctuation: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
- Start date
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that SSBB is unbelievably retarded. I never was a fan of the franchise. It sucks, as far as I'm concerned.
My god i finally found someone who disagrees with this bloody game, I praise you now, your like god but i find Ronald mcdonald, George Carlin and my dick better than god of coarse so your like #3 on my list right behind George carlin and my dick. I don't even know why I'm writing this damn comment when the chances of you reading it is slim to none. But anyway everything you said in BOTH videos about brawl are 100% true. If theirs someone out their who disagrees with this, your one of the people that Yahtzee was talking about so you wouldn't understand a bloody thing cause someone is poking your brain to hard with a stick. The only reason why i wanted to try the game out was the non-nintendo characters but it still board me half to sleep with my pj's already on during lunch, but almost everything on this dull pointless planet boards me till the end of time until Emmet Brown comes along and changes time with entertainment.Life would be more fun if everyone lives on their own little planet and passes time thinking, and wacking off except making a bunch of colorful endless characters beat the tar out of each other,I still rather live on my own planet with nothing except my mind and dick. I still don't understand why Nintendo makes things like this, sure you get alot of money but they also start losing their will to live. Just like Disney adding all those girly teen crap to their lives, and not even remembering the names "Mickey Mouse" and "Walt Disney" before. Well anyway good video, keep telling the truth to the world even is she covers her ears and ignores you. At least you still got the people, like us who actually have a mind and listen.
I can't say I agree with the general diagnosis on this one. He certainly has more than enough valid criticisms, such as a repetitive story mode, and how unlockable characters are a terrible idea. In general, though, I think that Yahtzee falls into the audience defined as "the large group of people that Brawl just plain old isn't targeted towards", which includes most people in this thread. I find the mindlessness of it all rather engrossing, and what the core gameplay consists of is extremely well done if you're looking for that sort of thing.
What threw me was the comment about button mashing. No offense to many people here, but if you gather four people together who completely suck at Smash Bros, the best masher is definitely going to win. So far, though, I have never once seen a masher do well at all against a more experienced player.
As for being "that guy", that certainly applies to a two-player match (in all games), but I have data that proves otherwise in four-player matches. I went and gathered three other people who have never played Smash Bros before, or many games at all, really, and played against them in a Brawl. I won hands down, but this seemed to do extremely little to bother them, and they had a great time.
I think the key issue here is that Yahtzee just falls into a different crowd than what Smash Bros is aimed at, as I've said before. And it is this, of course, that makes a horde of delirious fanboys spam his mailbox with hatred, but in all honesty, anyone who flies into a rage over a Yahtzee review isn't worth that much to society.
What threw me was the comment about button mashing. No offense to many people here, but if you gather four people together who completely suck at Smash Bros, the best masher is definitely going to win. So far, though, I have never once seen a masher do well at all against a more experienced player.
As for being "that guy", that certainly applies to a two-player match (in all games), but I have data that proves otherwise in four-player matches. I went and gathered three other people who have never played Smash Bros before, or many games at all, really, and played against them in a Brawl. I won hands down, but this seemed to do extremely little to bother them, and they had a great time.
I think the key issue here is that Yahtzee just falls into a different crowd than what Smash Bros is aimed at, as I've said before. And it is this, of course, that makes a horde of delirious fanboys spam his mailbox with hatred, but in all honesty, anyone who flies into a rage over a Yahtzee review isn't worth that much to society.
I think addressing changes requires that you play the previous iterations first, which Yahtzee has not.liquidmetal said:
Also, if one more American/British fellow tells someone of the other nation how "color/colour" is correctly spelled, I'm going to rip off your head and shove it up your arse. Jesus. Who the fuck CARES.
Sorry about triple post, my individual thoughts happen on a time delay.
Sorry about triple post, my individual thoughts happen on a time delay.
The Sound Defense said:
I agree a bit.
Except your data of the "that guy" thing. It depends on the people your playing with and their personality. For an example i played with 3 people and their was always one guy complaining that he sucks while the other is telling him to screw off for saying that etc. while im stuck their in the middle sighing.While others just have fun cause they dont really give 3 shits about the game or if they win or not.Speaking of which those stars you get for winning really excite the "that guy" person, always saying "i got more stars than you haha etc" while everyone else is just going "atleast i have bigger balls"
And the random smashing button thing i disagree also. I seen it countless times hell it happens to me sometimes also that i hit random buttons while my mind is in the planet Uranus not noticing im actually winning the stupid game.
But i still agree with you, it depends what you like and don't like and this is defiantly one of those like good category or don't like category game.
If this comment doesnt make sense sorry to lazy to reread and its 1am here and im tired as hell...and please dont be one of the people who start arguments from comments its kinda pointless
I'm depressed cause I agree with what Yahtzee said in his review of ssbb, even though I would be classed under the nintendo fan boy ladder. The game was originally plugged as a launch game for the console and ended up being 2 years late and counting, its still not on Australia's shelves outside a game traders' store (yes, I'm a fellow aussie, who cares).
Controls where easy, and even if they weren't for you could easily change them to whatever you could think of with the custom control settings. - Honestly, they had more control choices then base characters!
The game unlocks pissed me off for this game for the exact opposite reason as any other game. FAR TOO EASY!! All you had to do was 1p story mode and they all came out of the woodwork. Which made Sonic the LAST character you unlock playing the game as he only appears on the last level, even though he is a prominent advertised character for the game. Great plan Nintendo.
At least in SSBM you had some characters that needed so many hours VS game play, making it so a group gameplay game had important things to unlock as a group.
The versus maps were way too small (AGAIN), making characters have needed big maps (yoshi, DK, sonic, etc.) sad choices for matches. You could use the level builder, but it was way too limiting which made it even more frustrating. The boss maps in the story mode were so much better than the scrolling maps you get stuck with in multiplayer.
They kept all the crap characters everyone hated from the last smash bros game, and the new surprise characters were a waste of time. Worst of all they all had the same attacks and supers! If I didn't want to play Fox, I'm not going to start using Falco, let alone Wolf!! Also they shouldn't have brought new characters into ssbb from games older than a super nintendo. Who the hell is this Pit Prat?!
I could go on and on like this but at the end of the day, I prefer playing SSBM on my Wii than this new version. At least it was rewarding.
Great review, keep it up!
Controls where easy, and even if they weren't for you could easily change them to whatever you could think of with the custom control settings. - Honestly, they had more control choices then base characters!
The game unlocks pissed me off for this game for the exact opposite reason as any other game. FAR TOO EASY!! All you had to do was 1p story mode and they all came out of the woodwork. Which made Sonic the LAST character you unlock playing the game as he only appears on the last level, even though he is a prominent advertised character for the game. Great plan Nintendo.
At least in SSBM you had some characters that needed so many hours VS game play, making it so a group gameplay game had important things to unlock as a group.
The versus maps were way too small (AGAIN), making characters have needed big maps (yoshi, DK, sonic, etc.) sad choices for matches. You could use the level builder, but it was way too limiting which made it even more frustrating. The boss maps in the story mode were so much better than the scrolling maps you get stuck with in multiplayer.
They kept all the crap characters everyone hated from the last smash bros game, and the new surprise characters were a waste of time. Worst of all they all had the same attacks and supers! If I didn't want to play Fox, I'm not going to start using Falco, let alone Wolf!! Also they shouldn't have brought new characters into ssbb from games older than a super nintendo. Who the hell is this Pit Prat?!
I could go on and on like this but at the end of the day, I prefer playing SSBM on my Wii than this new version. At least it was rewarding.
Great review, keep it up!
Kobushi said:
-Pit is from an NES game..
-the fox/falco/wolf argument is true
-Melee had some good maps (I put my concentration on the word some in this sentence)
Ok I completly disagree with this guys review after watching a few of reviews I liked them they were good funny and had alot there. But oh my god when I got to this one I couldn't believe it. First of all this guy dosn't have a right to review the game not because he dosn't like fighting games or hates nintendo. What drives me is that he wasn't willing to put all that much time into the game to really understand it. I can understand why he didn't understand that you didn't have to play through story to unlock characters and that the levels repeat themselves once at the end. How ever the fact of smashing buttons make you think wtf and those that disagree you can customize your controller suck that. Another thing I notice that the only reason he was willing to play was of sonic and snake. And of course you have to unlock them it make the player go longer however if that the only reason why your playing is for those characters. You obviosly are nintendo hater that for some reason decided that nintendo was evil probly because your parents killed themselves right before you. Having no place to take your blame you blamed it on the only thing in your life video games and since sony system died you saw nintendo as the killer so decided to spend your time playing video games instead of going around looking for your parents killers. And acourse microsoft comes out shortly latter and in a leap of hope you see it a becon when what your actually doing is going around killing people with a chainsaw whyle watching the blood of your victims. And since nintendo started go down with gamecube it was like justice was served then all of a sudden the wii is shown and for you it like the come of the anti criss you go home cry and when ssb is shown you spit on it in hopes that it won' come out good. However when you hear reviewers raving about it you automaticly call them fan boys and take your hatred of nintendo out on condemed 2. Acourse you don't plan to play the game but when your audiece beggs you to your forced to play since you snake is in it so you have some hope of blood. As you put the game you see the flashy images of nintendo charactes as your hatred comeing back makeing it impossible to have any fun. On top of that you are a poor host not unlocking at least a few characters for your friends so they can play as who they like. In the end you explore no real features of the game and never get a real chance to see what it has to offer.
You sir are a nintendo hater I respect your opion but it a preaty poor opion.
You sir are a nintendo hater I respect your opion but it a preaty poor opion.
I read your whole post and I decided to cut half of your argument because the other last half didn't made any sense to me; it seemed like a kid's rant.Sorahero said:
I hope you read it again to see how stupid it sounded.
I agree with respecting opinions, though.
The reason I brought the question of who Pit was, was the fact that he is a character from a Nintendo game that is over 20 years forgotten. I realise that alot of Nintendo's character's like Donkey Kong, Mario, and Kirby started their release on the original Nintendo, but if they didn't have a sequel made or haven't been followed up since their initial game, don't make them out to be a great classic game character.Random argument man said:
I didn't say the maps were not good, I said they were too small. Though I can't believe how many of their maps are side scrollers, or change halfway into the fight. Who the hell came up with the idea of a side scrolling fighting map anyway!? If you were in the middle of a fight and the earth started shaking under your feet, YOU WOULD STOP! The fight would stop, and you'd worry more about getting out of the area, then when the disaster finished, you'd resume the fight. I've been playing the smash bros series since 64 and if friends come over for a game, we never go on a side scroll map. It distracts from the fight itself.
On a new note, why are so many of the new characters micro-managers? In Melee, the Ice-climber and zelda were the only real duel character players. They were ok, but never favourites (not due to who they were but how you played them). Now they added Pikmin, Poke'mon Trainer, and even Samus - Metroid suit to zero-suit switch in fight. How much did they really want to annoy us with novelty characters like this? Poke'mon trainer was ok... but the others were crap. I thought they were going to bring in King K.Rool among other good characters. oh well...
I don't give a damn. Yeah it's not bulletproof, but all that matters is that the one playing it likes it and I do.
Super Smash Bros is actually a pretty good game, but it's not something you want to play hours on end. It's one of those games you pick up, play, and put down after an hour. It's not something you should put your time into to unlock about damn near EVERYTHING. Yes, I've been a FANBOY of the whole series. But this fanboy actually has balls to say "Just cause I'm a fan of the series, doesn't mean I won't point out the things that suck ass." The fact you unlock all your characters hours into the damn game is tedious. And if your going to put in characters people want to recognize, then quit putting in crap like Wolf or Rob. (Rob actually turns out to be an ok fighter, while Wolf is cheap.)The fact that you play with a Wii remote would only make you cringe, but thank the lord you can use a gamecube controller.It just didn't appeal to you Yahtzee. But that doesn't mean you are wrong either. Games are something that very with user all the time. What might suck for one person, can be great for another. Like you said, you don't enjoy memorizing all those damn combos just to figure out how to kill someone, than just have your ass handed to you by some 4 year old pressing buttons randomly. Though with SS series, I thought they got rid of that problem. But still, good review, and good points.
I've decided to post a handy little guide for anyone who intends to watch/read a review.
BEHOLD! COPTER400'S REVIEW BROWSING FOR PROS!
So a much loved game of yours has been badly reviewed by someone on that raving psychopath, the Internet. Remember:
1. There is no need to argue.
2. This is a game. It's not like the reviewer stabbed your mother or anything.
3. The reviewer has most likely wrote the review after playing the game long enough to get a good feel for its content. Saying that he hadn't done something or other properly or thoroughly enough is just stupid.
4. Unless he has completely missed the point of the game (like, "SSBB is the worst FPS ever") or made a comment on something that did not appear/should not have been an issue in the game, do not say he is wrong.
5. This is an opinion. If people let the opinions of others get to them all the time, those poor Insane Clown Posse lads wouldn't have any business. And that would be terrible.
So there it is, folks! Read the guide over and over until your eyes dry out and fall out of your skull like a pair of wooden marbles. Stay safe.
BEHOLD! COPTER400'S REVIEW BROWSING FOR PROS!
So a much loved game of yours has been badly reviewed by someone on that raving psychopath, the Internet. Remember:
1. There is no need to argue.
2. This is a game. It's not like the reviewer stabbed your mother or anything.
3. The reviewer has most likely wrote the review after playing the game long enough to get a good feel for its content. Saying that he hadn't done something or other properly or thoroughly enough is just stupid.
4. Unless he has completely missed the point of the game (like, "SSBB is the worst FPS ever") or made a comment on something that did not appear/should not have been an issue in the game, do not say he is wrong.
5. This is an opinion. If people let the opinions of others get to them all the time, those poor Insane Clown Posse lads wouldn't have any business. And that would be terrible.
So there it is, folks! Read the guide over and over until your eyes dry out and fall out of your skull like a pair of wooden marbles. Stay safe.
Protip: Stupidity is stupid.
I've yet to see an intelligent argument criticizing Yahtzee's excellent review. My advice to those who wish to whine about Yahtzee's review - don't.
In other news, I found the review to be hilarious, and very true. I played SSBB at a friends house the other day - we had more fun with two nerf guns that were lying about then actually playing the game. That's kinda sad, if you think about it.
I've yet to see an intelligent argument criticizing Yahtzee's excellent review. My advice to those who wish to whine about Yahtzee's review - don't.
In other news, I found the review to be hilarious, and very true. I played SSBB at a friends house the other day - we had more fun with two nerf guns that were lying about then actually playing the game. That's kinda sad, if you think about it.