You pretty much sum up how it is to play Diablo 2, (With few expections) but unlike you, I enjoyed it.
Zero Punctuation: Torchlight
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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cost me £4 in Steams Jan sale.... money will spent, kept my godson quiet for hours better than any dvd lol
I actually found the netbook and the low spec thing really good considering but then Yat has lost his edge, he's more console than anything. Shame really i'm sure he was brought up on games that needed rewinding by pens when they came loose.
As much as i love my consoles (wii and 360 gathering dust or melting eggs to crispness) and my ps3 (most played recently). My PC [desktop and laptop] will always be my favourites when it comes to games... they aren't just about how many FPS's you can fit on the market before said market starts being morons or making poorly made puns and pretending to be more british than he actually is...
*waves at Yat* you're not british... deal with it... enjoy your australian fun with mmo's.. i hear you get.. "great" connections... lol
I actually found the netbook and the low spec thing really good considering but then Yat has lost his edge, he's more console than anything. Shame really i'm sure he was brought up on games that needed rewinding by pens when they came loose.
As much as i love my consoles (wii and 360 gathering dust or melting eggs to crispness) and my ps3 (most played recently). My PC [desktop and laptop] will always be my favourites when it comes to games... they aren't just about how many FPS's you can fit on the market before said market starts being morons or making poorly made puns and pretending to be more british than he actually is...
*waves at Yat* you're not british... deal with it... enjoy your australian fun with mmo's.. i hear you get.. "great" connections... lol
This is one of those areas where Yahtzee really shows his ignorance toward certain genres. When it comes to shooters, he's some sort of mad savant on a mission, a superhero of refining that particular genre, but given just about any other type of game, his wit tends to falter from my perspective because Yahtzee is at his best when he's in his own element.
It's sort of like being a Professor of geology, and encouraging a lay-person to speak on the topic when they don't have a clue, the effort is endearing, and it can be entertaining for a half hour if you can get past your own empathy, and feeling for them in regards to all the painfully obvious mistakes they're making, mistakes which they quickly compound with errors of even greater magnitudes. The humour value of this increases exponentially if the lay-person happens to be drunk, or at least sounds like they're drunk, or failing that--very angry.
That's sort of what this review of Torchlight was like. Funny in its own way, and it's going to get yuks out of anyone who doesn't understand the genre, but anyone who's familiar with even a small amount of Western action RPGs is probably going to have their face planted in their hands, laughing raucously for all the wrong reasons.
I think that next Yahtzee should review Borderlands, get the man talking on something that he's familiar with, so we can all be entertained again without having to feel heinously guilty for it after (well, except for the clueless ones, who'll be earnestly entertained anyway, Q.E.D., ignorance may very well be bliss).
That or we could have him review Solium Infernum, but I think the screens of numbers and complex tactics in that would have his head impacting his desk with such force and unrestrained anger that Murphy's Law would probably see his brain quantum tunnelling it's way to freedom, so that it might never have to experience something like that ever again.
So yes, let's see him review more shooters!
It's sort of like being a Professor of geology, and encouraging a lay-person to speak on the topic when they don't have a clue, the effort is endearing, and it can be entertaining for a half hour if you can get past your own empathy, and feeling for them in regards to all the painfully obvious mistakes they're making, mistakes which they quickly compound with errors of even greater magnitudes. The humour value of this increases exponentially if the lay-person happens to be drunk, or at least sounds like they're drunk, or failing that--very angry.
That's sort of what this review of Torchlight was like. Funny in its own way, and it's going to get yuks out of anyone who doesn't understand the genre, but anyone who's familiar with even a small amount of Western action RPGs is probably going to have their face planted in their hands, laughing raucously for all the wrong reasons.
I think that next Yahtzee should review Borderlands, get the man talking on something that he's familiar with, so we can all be entertained again without having to feel heinously guilty for it after (well, except for the clueless ones, who'll be earnestly entertained anyway, Q.E.D., ignorance may very well be bliss).
That or we could have him review Solium Infernum, but I think the screens of numbers and complex tactics in that would have his head impacting his desk with such force and unrestrained anger that Murphy's Law would probably see his brain quantum tunnelling it's way to freedom, so that it might never have to experience something like that ever again.
So yes, let's see him review more shooters!
I kind of thought that being a privately-held company meant you were less beholden to shareholders and "the board," which is what makes corporations particularly asshole-y. At least, in a cyber-punk kind of we-own-people-damn-consequences-only-the-bottom-line way. Being big isn't necessarily bad, it's acting big that's the problem, and I think that Valve does a good job of only falling into that trap on a few occasions.Noelveiga said:
Anyway, your other points are all well-made, and well-taken, though I thought I could use Steam in "offline" mode if my internet connection was down? Regardless, good points.
It sounds similar to Diablo 2's music because the same person that did D2's music made Torchlight's.Chasmodius said:
On another note, I disagree with pretty much everything Yahtzee said. Yeah, it's a clone of D2, but it's a well-polished one. Although it suffers from the same ailment pretty much every Diablo clone does: the more I play Torchlight, the more I want to play Diablo II, simply because as good as Torchlight is, D2 just does most things better. Let's hope Diablo III lives up, yeah?
It doesn't sound "similar," it uses exactly the same music and sound effects. At least in that first whole section, which is as far as I got before having too many Diablo II flashbacks and decided that I really didn't want to play it again.Skweebl said:
Russian_Assassin said:
It definitely wasn't cause I missed the Dog in Fallout 3 an had beaten the entire game before I decided to check out a FAQ an was like "WHAT there was a dog? Aww man".
As for Torchlight its a good cheap Diablo clone. If you like Diablo you will like Torchlight if not then you wont. An if you never played Diablo you might as well go back to hugging your console since your probably don't own any PC games anyway.
The idea started with Nethack an old rpg/rougelike that use text symbols to represent everything ingame purely because there were no graphics to use, or no way to make them. besides that tangent though they started off with a back story, your character, and your constant companion forever your dog, this was one of the first videogame rpgs. Since then giving your character a dog or cat companion has been seen as a nod toward the first really successful rpg.Aleate said:
You know if it is only $3 then I might play just for the hell of it. Or I could buy a couple slices of pizza, tough choice.
Fixed your post.Russian_Assassin said:
I dislike all RPGs, they are all like this. looking at your Final Fantasy. It's like taking Neverending Story 5 and making a series of games of them.
Girl likes boy, Girl gets kidnapped. Or town is built on Satan.[exception being ICO]
torch light is made by the makers of fate and by wild tangent(fuck! they ripped of 75$ of me!)
I think that fate had some better stuf than torchlight!
I think that fate had some better stuf than torchlight!