Zero Punctuation: Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

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Sephlock

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At 2:16 what does the cover of the book say?

And while we're at it, at 3:30 is there text on the envelope? I'm straining my eyes here!
 

Wyatt

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pinkgothic said:
In that case, I'd like to reveal to you a pivotal truth of debates, in honest hope it may help you on your way: insulting people does not tend to make them listen to your actual discussion points. With the exception of a handful of people (to which I may or may not belong - but aspire to), you might as well save your breath... you merely anger them, you won't get your point across, and so everyone loses.
close Pink but not close enough, THEE pivotal truth of debates isnt to change the mind of the 'enemy' its to help those on the side lines whome havent yet formed an opinion to form that opinion in agreement with what you are saying.

a debate needs at a minimum, 3 things, those being 2 (or possably more) 'sides' to a given topic and the third being a neutral croud that can be talked too. the GOAL of the debate is to sway the croud not to change the minds of your opponants. after all if someone chooses to make a stand their mind is generaly allready made up. my mind is made up about console's , so is yours, so is pretty much anyone else here whos got anything to actualy say about the subject, the 'debate' is for all the unwashed masses and ranks of the PC gaming master race whome havent commited to one side or another yet to get well infomed and at times funny conversation about the subject.

MY goal in debate is to get some of those console tards that dont know they are tards yet because they havent been educated to try PC gaming and relize that their dull misserable lives can become shining examples of intelligence and good breeding by choosing a PC over the peons consoles. my goal is NOT to convince hardened sinners that sloping through the mud of life tugging their flop and flail WII-mote behind them is a bad idea. some people just like living in the muck.

*takes a bow*

thank you and goodnight
 
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Wyatt said:
pinkgothic said:
In that case, I'd like to reveal to you a pivotal truth of debates, in honest hope it may help you on your way: insulting people does not tend to make them listen to your actual discussion points. With the exception of a handful of people (to which I may or may not belong - but aspire to), you might as well save your breath... you merely anger them, you won't get your point across, and so everyone loses.
close Pink but not close enough, THEE pivotal truth of debates isnt to change the mind of the 'enemy' its to help those on the side lines whome havent yet formed an opinion to form that opinion in agreement with what you are saying.

a debate needs at a minimum, 3 things, those being 2 (or possably more) 'sides' to a given topic and the third being a neutral croud that can be talked too. the GOAL of the debate is to sway the croud not to change the minds of your opponants. after all if someone chooses to make a stand their mind is generaly allready made up. my mind is made up about console's , so is yours, so is pretty much anyone else here whos got anything to actualy say about the subject, the 'debate' is for all the unwashed masses and ranks of the PC gaming master race whome havent commited to one side or another yet to get well infomed and at times funny conversation about the subject.

MY goal in debate is to get some of those console tards that dont know they are tards yet because they havent been educated to try PC gaming and relize that their dull misserable lives can become shining examples of intelligence and good breeding by choosing a PC over the peons consoles. my goal is NOT to convince hardened sinners that sloping through the mud of life tugging their flop and flail WII-mote behind them is a bad idea. some people just like living in the muck.

*takes a bow*

thank you and goodnight
*Applauds*
 
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Sephlock said:
At 2:16 what does the cover of the book say?

And while we're at it, at 3:30 is there text on the envelope? I'm straining my eyes here!
The book cover says "Sun Tzi" referring to the author of "The Art of War" and the envelope has no clear words on it.
 

Mstrswrd

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As always, great review, and very, very true. I played it, but now that he pointed the whole racism thing out, I cant stop laughing every time I pop the game back into the damn PS3.
 

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Ooh, He. Is. So. Yummy. WTF is this? I thought video gamers were sexually repressed fifteen year olds (well, actually I'm quite a bit older than that, but the sexually repressed bit still holds :( ). And instead we get all these girly commenst on Yahtzee's not altogether butt-ugly charms. Anyhoo, Uncharted seems a bit generic to me.
 

DontHate

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Heh! Nice review yahtzee. Everyone has told me uncharted was this great game, but when I played it it was nothing extraordinary.
 

Nettacki

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Indeed, Uncharted IS a great game, but still I enjoyed the review. I can especially relate to the part about enemies shooting and hitting you from 900 yards away.

DontHate, I'm curious. What exactly did you expect from this game that made you think that way? I played it, simply expecting a great, engaging gaming experience and got what I asked for. How about you?
 

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JOE COOL said:
Million Dollar Question to Everyone: How much money do you spend on videogames? $_$
Too much. Just say that the million dollar bit of the question is not too far off. Buying Japanese games can be expensive, because you can't trade them in for new ones.
 

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Katana314 said:
I saw a bit of the game played, and I see what he means. I'm not too worried that it didn't push the envelope because not every game needs to. He's being a bit hypocritical, through the fact that he absolutely loved COD4, which revolutionized...what, exactly?

You could say Uncharted basically improved on all the games included in that mashup diagram; it added more free movement to Gears of War, it put better combat in Prince of Persia, and it ran far better than Far Cry.
CoD 4 revolutionized a franchise which was pigeon-holed in the tired World War 2 genre, has a class based multiplayer, and actually brought a lot of interesting guns to the table.
 

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IT IS THE FACE OF GOD, BOW DOWN BEFORE THE ALL POWERFUL YAHTZEE!!!!!!!!!!!

Other than that, great review. It iS ripping off Indiana Jones............a ton.
 

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Alphavillain said:
Ooh, He. Is. So. Yummy. WTF is this? I thought video gamers were sexually repressed fifteen year olds (well, actually I'm quite a bit older than that, but the sexually repressed bit still holds :( ). And instead we get all these girly commenst on Yahtzee's not altogether butt-ugly charms.
Alphavillain, you want to go HERE: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.55103?page=1 :D

Lord_Ascendant said:
IT IS THE FACE OF GOD, BOW DOWN BEFORE THE ALL POWERFUL YAHTZEE!!!!!!!!!!!
You too, Lord Ascendant!
 

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Wyatt said:
close Pink but not close enough, THEE pivotal truth of debates isnt to change the mind of the 'enemy' its to help those on the side lines whome havent yet formed an opinion to form that opinion in agreement with what you are saying.
Debates are to inform the listeners about opposing sides of an issue. That's why each side must believe they are right and want to sway the crowd. Otherwise they would not be a good advocate. Adding multiple views to an issue almost always results in something being discovered by one of the parties. That's why Lawyers, Scientists and Military Leaders never work alone. Wanting to sway the crowd is a byproduct not the reason for debating.

Insults undermine debates by potentially making the listener feel inadequate for not agreeing with the presented opinion and take it without any real knowledge of the topic. This also will have a polarizing affect which all logic cringes at the thought of. What you're talking about is politics. Now I know the way we do debates these days is exactly how you described them but I figure someone has to be the voice of reason. Especially when the media and Washington sure as hell won't do it.

Anyway, back onto games. I really don't play all that many games. Being dirt poor I usually wait until they've been reviewed by EGM or the like. So far all I've played with quick time events are RE4 and God of War I and II. Are quick time events really getting to the point where they almost ruin the gaming experience in other games?
 

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The thing that must always be remembered is that movie video games never sell well. So to make a movie video game and attempt to pull the wool over peoples eyes to make it seem it was not one. It makes me giggle.


Plus he showed his face!Spank bank is full.
 

Wyatt

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fffanatic06 said:
Debates are to inform the listeners about opposing sides of an issue. That's why each side must believe they are right and want to sway the crowd. Otherwise they would not be a good advocate. Adding multiple views to an issue almost always results in something being discovered by one of the parties. That's why Lawyers, Scientists and Military Leaders never work alone. Wanting to sway the crowd is a byproduct not the reason for debating.
you could have just said "i agree with Wyatt" and saved yourself all that typing. corse then again you wouldnt have had the chance to flip-flop and say the opposite in the last line of that quote

ive read, re-read, and read your post a 3rd time and i still cant figure out your point, do you agree with me that debates are about swaying the opinions of the crowd? or is it "Wanting to sway the crowd is a byproduct not the reason for debating"

see this is simple and easy to point out why your wrong about saying "Wanting to sway the crowd is a byproduct not the reason for debating" because if its a debate there is a crowd, and the point to debate is to sway that crowd, if there is no crowd to sway then it isnt a debate its an argument.

as far as all the insulting and name calling crap go's, if someone is such a wish-washy limpwristed pansy that they get offended by my (or my opponants for that matter) words then i dont want them on my 'side' anyhow. i tend to take a hard line, if a person isnt willing to come to that line with me then what do i care if they agree with me or not? when i man the trenches, prime the cannons, parade the Pipers, Raise the Flag, and scream CHARGE, the last thing i want is for those that agree with me to still be cowering in the mess tent upset because the other side called them a bad name.

if listening (or reading) a debate is so awful that you get upset by the mear sight of a written word, no matter how 'harsh' it seems, then you should perhaps retire to the North pole or something. then again perhaps not for in that case even the mear glimps of a snow shoe rabbit is apt to cause an instant stroke or possably a heart attack.

ill leave off with some words that may not be to some peoples likings but i find inspire me in almost everything i write.

Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.
Winston Churchill

Eating words has never given me indigestion.
Winston Churchill

I like a man who grins when he fights.
Winston Churchill

I'm just preparing my impromptu remarks.
Winston Churchill

If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time-a tremendous whack.
Winston Churchill

In the course of my life, I have often had to eat my words, and I must confess that I have always found it a wholesome diet.
Winston Churchill

Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
Winston Churchill

The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
Winston Churchill

AND finaly the greatest words of all

There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.
Winston Churchill
 
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Winston Churchill rules. Personally, my favorite quote of his:

"Sir, if you were my husband, I'd poison your wine!"-Lady Astor

"Ma'am, if you were my wife, I would drink it."-Winston Churchill
 

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Wyatt said:
pinkgothic said:
In that case, I'd like to reveal to you a pivotal truth of debates, in honest hope it may help you on your way: insulting people does not tend to make them listen to your actual discussion points. With the exception of a handful of people (to which I may or may not belong - but aspire to), you might as well save your breath... you merely anger them, you won't get your point across, and so everyone loses.
close Pink but not close enough, THEE pivotal truth of debates isnt to change the mind of the 'enemy' its to help those on the side lines whome havent yet formed an opinion to form that opinion in agreement with what you are saying.

a debate needs at a minimum, 3 things, those being 2 (or possably more) 'sides' to a given topic and the third being a neutral croud that can be talked too. the GOAL of the debate is to sway the croud not to change the minds of your opponants. after all if someone chooses to make a stand their mind is generaly allready made up. my mind is made up about console's , so is yours, so is pretty much anyone else here whos got anything to actualy say about the subject, the 'debate' is for all the unwashed masses and ranks of the PC gaming master race whome havent commited to one side or another yet to get well infomed and at times funny conversation about the subject.

MY goal in debate is to get some of those console tards that dont know they are tards yet because they havent been educated to try PC gaming and relize that their dull misserable lives can become shining examples of intelligence and good breeding by choosing a PC over the peons consoles. my goal is NOT to convince hardened sinners that sloping through the mud of life tugging their flop and flail WII-mote behind them is a bad idea. some people just like living in the muck.

*takes a bow*

thank you and goodnight
*worships and clings to your leg* =^0^=
 

Conqueror Kenny

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haha rasisum is fun. brilliant review made me crack up with laughter fingers crossed for DMC this week or next