fffanatic06 said:
Debates are to inform the listeners about opposing sides of an issue. That's why each side must believe they are right and want to sway the crowd. Otherwise they would not be a good advocate. Adding multiple views to an issue almost always results in something being discovered by one of the parties. That's why Lawyers, Scientists and Military Leaders never work alone. Wanting to sway the crowd is a byproduct not the reason for debating.
you could have just said "i agree with Wyatt" and saved yourself all that typing. corse then again you wouldnt have had the chance to flip-flop and say the opposite in the last line of that quote
ive read, re-read, and read your post a 3rd time and i still cant figure out your point, do you agree with me that debates are about swaying the opinions of the crowd? or is it "Wanting to sway the crowd is a byproduct not the reason for debating"
see this is simple and easy to point out why your wrong about saying "Wanting to sway the crowd is a byproduct not the reason for debating" because if its a debate there is a crowd, and the point to debate is to sway that crowd, if there is no crowd to sway then it isnt a debate its an argument.
as far as all the insulting and name calling crap go's, if someone is such a wish-washy limpwristed pansy that they get offended by my (or my opponants for that matter) words then i dont want them on my 'side' anyhow. i tend to take a hard line, if a person isnt willing to come to that line with me then what do i care if they agree with me or not? when i man the trenches, prime the cannons, parade the Pipers, Raise the Flag, and scream CHARGE, the last thing i want is for those that agree with me to still be cowering in the mess tent upset because the other side called them a bad name.
if listening (or reading) a debate is so awful that you get upset by the mear sight of a written word, no matter how 'harsh' it seems, then you should perhaps retire to the North pole or something. then again perhaps not for in that case even the mear glimps of a snow shoe rabbit is apt to cause an instant stroke or possably a heart attack.
ill leave off with some words that may not be to some peoples likings but i find inspire me in almost everything i write.
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.
Winston Churchill
Eating words has never given me indigestion.
Winston Churchill
I like a man who grins when he fights.
Winston Churchill
I'm just preparing my impromptu remarks.
Winston Churchill
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time-a tremendous whack.
Winston Churchill
In the course of my life, I have often had to eat my words, and I must confess that I have always found it a wholesome diet.
Winston Churchill
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
Winston Churchill
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
Winston Churchill
AND finaly the greatest words of all
There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.
Winston Churchill
). And instead we get all these girly commenst on Yahtzee's not altogether butt-ugly charms.
