Well some of the commentary here inspired me to look up a few webcomics and Yahtzee appears to be right.
They're all quite shit.
They're all quite shit.
Zero Punctuation: Webcomics
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Nice CAD reference.
I was one of those who thought "what the F?" when I heard that what he did on his comic was an actual real life event x.x
I was one of those who thought "what the F?" when I heard that what he did on his comic was an actual real life event x.x
"Cheese Monkey Ninja Pirate Monkey."
"Female character having a Miscarriage."
"Gets hypnotized by her breasts."
Wow, everything short of slapping a sticker on it.
"Female character having a Miscarriage."
"Gets hypnotized by her breasts."
Wow, everything short of slapping a sticker on it.
Having rewatched this ZP I wonder,
Say I am guilty of these things, creating crap I mean.
What should I do about that ?
What I've created might be crap but it's there online, should I delete the bad and try harder continueing to delete until I succeed in creating something decent ?
Is deleting the failure better or is that just removing the context for later work.
Should I acknowledge it's failure to prevent people from voicing there displeasure and criticism unnecessarily ? (as in, "I know, you don't have to remind me.")
Should I just give up accepting failure and move on to something else ?
There's no point in giving examples of the shit I do, just trust me it's no very good.
TL
R, what's better, delete bad content when judged bad so it doesn't pollute the internet.
Or leave it up as a frame of reference for future work however bad or good ?
Say I am guilty of these things, creating crap I mean.
What should I do about that ?
What I've created might be crap but it's there online, should I delete the bad and try harder continueing to delete until I succeed in creating something decent ?
Is deleting the failure better or is that just removing the context for later work.
Should I acknowledge it's failure to prevent people from voicing there displeasure and criticism unnecessarily ? (as in, "I know, you don't have to remind me.")
Should I just give up accepting failure and move on to something else ?
There's no point in giving examples of the shit I do, just trust me it's no very good.
TL
R, what's better, delete bad content when judged bad so it doesn't pollute the internet.Or leave it up as a frame of reference for future work however bad or good ?
magicmonkeybars said:Having rewatched this ZP I wonder,
Say I am guilty of these things, creating crap I mean.
What should I do about that ?
What I've created might be crap but it's there online, should I delete the bad and try harder continueing to delete until I succeed in creating something decent ?
Is deleting the failure better or is that just removing the context for later work.
Should I acknowledge it's failure to prevent people from voicing there displeasure and criticism unnecessarily ? (as in, "I know, you don't have to remind me.")
Should I just give up accepting failure and move on to something else ?
There's no point in giving examples of the shit I do, just trust me it's no very good.
TL
Or leave it up as a frame of reference for future work however bad or good ?
What you should do is try your best to produce something that you feel is adequate and keep trying your best to make it better. You don't have to delete anything; you are clearly to worried about what others think. I love to listen to the things that Yahtzee has to say, but he is just a critic like any other, and that doesn't mean he's always fair. If you worry about people always whole heartedly loving everything you do, you'll never create anything without fear of being rebuked. No matter what you do, I guarantee there is a large group of people who will hate it mercilessly. The greatest people how have ever lived had people who hated everything they did. You shouldn't just delete something because someone doesn't think it's good enough for them. Do stuff for you, not for other people to judge. If people like it, great. If they don;t, let them cry as much as they want. I'll bet Yahtzee faces a huge amount of criticism on a daily bases, but that doesn't mean he should delete all his videos.
I just realized this is the last episode where he uses music at the beginning instead of the generic rock lol.
Epic Wizard said:
For the love of God, stop. epic wizard, you have no right to call him an ass because you are clearly the biggest ass in the universe. My source for that is my own standards and the limit of basic human decency, since sources are so ridiculously important to you. You do not have the right to go through someones comments and make rude and sarcastic comments about thing they say because you don't approve of them. Yes, I agree that A FEW of the things that tempdude said where either uninformed or moronic, but what you did is incredibly narcissistic and you should really stop. Besides, the last two things he posted were completely reasonable. You're just making yourself look bad. and if you really want to make yourself look even worse you should do it yo me to, because you seem to have a thing of mocking people who disagree with you to any degree.
Here's two quotes to support my argument:
"There's no cure for stupid."
"Only a fool argues with a fool."
There's two ways you can look at anything you've done (protip: EXCEPT MURDER). You can view it as some kind of final submission to an uncaring universe and that your peers will use it to judge your very soul and worth as a human being. Or you can view it as a learning experience. The best thing about making a webcomic, in my experience, is the rhythmic practice it enforces on you. If you have a deadline to hit then you're going to produce someting, good or not, each time you produce somehting you get a little better at it. Before long you'll be looking at your earlier work and thinking "jesus, that was fucking awful" that's perfectly natural and is in fact, the best sign of a growing artist/writer.magicmonkeybars said:Having rewatched this ZP I wonder,
Say I am guilty of these things, creating crap I mean.
What should I do about that ?
What I've created might be crap but it's there online, should I delete the bad and try harder continueing to delete until I succeed in creating something decent ?
Is deleting the failure better or is that just removing the context for later work.
Should I acknowledge it's failure to prevent people from voicing there displeasure and criticism unnecessarily ? (as in, "I know, you don't have to remind me.")
Should I just give up accepting failure and move on to something else ?
There's no point in giving examples of the shit I do, just trust me it's no very good.
TL
Or leave it up as a frame of reference for future work however bad or good ?
The only real crime in webcomic creation, at least in my book, is deliberate stagnation. Being bad at it isn't a bad thing, not wanting to get better, or worse, getting just good enough to draw in the paypal donations and just resting there forever like some kind of donation gobbling spider.
So keep drawing/writing, keep hammering away at it, eventually it will click. Just don't turn into the next Buckley or Piro.
It'd be interesting to see what yahtzee says now that Duke Nuke forever may actually be released
