Zero Punctuation: Webcomics
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I found this review funny up until the miscarriage reference. While I like CAD and Penny Arcade the reason why I didn't find the comic particularly funny after that is that the article just sorta degenerated into a hatefilled attack on one comic in particular and ceased making valid points, oh sure they are valid if given the context of all second and third rate comics as a whole but Ctrl-Alt-Del is hardly crap, sure not everyone finds the same things funny but here's whats needed to be considered:
-People do find it funny.
-CAD has never been from the start a random collection of random funnies at games, about 70% of the comics do have a story line to them usually in the form of "story arcs".
I do find the current review "funny" but only really if I can convince myself that its not directly meant to bash one particular comic with only a flimsy reference to other comics to give the illusion of a fair and objective review.
So, people who don't like CAD *shrug*, and so Yahtzee doesn't like CAD also *shrug* as Tim said "everyone is entitled to their own opinions" and so it will.
But personally speaking, that CAD actually does have drama and a story line is why I like it it has more deph to it then the 90% of crud out there and to me in my entirely personal opinion if Yahtzee ever got a story line to go with his reviews I'ld be all over it like shit on Velcro.
-People do find it funny.
-CAD has never been from the start a random collection of random funnies at games, about 70% of the comics do have a story line to them usually in the form of "story arcs".
I do find the current review "funny" but only really if I can convince myself that its not directly meant to bash one particular comic with only a flimsy reference to other comics to give the illusion of a fair and objective review.
So, people who don't like CAD *shrug*, and so Yahtzee doesn't like CAD also *shrug* as Tim said "everyone is entitled to their own opinions" and so it will.
But personally speaking, that CAD actually does have drama and a story line is why I like it it has more deph to it then the 90% of crud out there and to me in my entirely personal opinion if Yahtzee ever got a story line to go with his reviews I'ld be all over it like shit on Velcro.
Hey, boyo, he apparently likes VG Cats. http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/features/goodcomics.htmSlacker2000 said:
As do I.
It's my favorite stupid-funny webcomic.
It is one thing to make a serious webcomic. There are several out there and some of them are actually quite brilliant. It is however a idiots stunt to suddenly switch your shallow, random humor comic into rape-mode. Especially in the style of "Oh my fiancee had a miscarriage, probably the worst thing that can happen to a woman. And instead of visiting her I pity myself cause I now have to play Halo with my robot again instead of my baby"Thaius said:
A gaming comic goes off topic with a miscarriage comic rather than the gaming references and humor, while a game review movie goes off topic grinding an axe against a webcomic artist rather than reviewing games with his usual humorous and hate filled insight.
*shrugs* whatever, slow week for the internet gamer who still actually plays games.
*shrugs* whatever, slow week for the internet gamer who still actually plays games.
If you think that webcomics just suck (I know most of them do, most of the web sucks, but that hasn't turned you off to the internet now has it?) then you probably aren't aware of the sheer vatriety of what's out there. Allow me to demonstrate:
boltcity.com - Copper: A boy and his dog discuss life and love while wandering lush and whimsical landscapes.
drmcninja.com - Dr. McNinja: a send-up of superhero comics that just keeps getting weirder. So far he's fought Ronald McDonald, banditos riding velociraptors, and a Danish action hero with an army of ninjas, to name a few.
gunnerkrigg.com - Gunnerkrigg Court: two girls explore the mysterious Gunnerkrigg Court, a school with many secrets where magic and technology collide.
xkcd.com - XKCD: stick figures having amazingly geeky conversations and graphs describing the effects of bacon on health.
seraph-inn.com - Inverloch and The Phoenix Requiem: not one but two high fantasy adventures with beautiful artwork. As an added bonus, Inverloch is finished so you could go read the whole thing from beginning to end now and never have to wait for an update.
shortpacked.com - Shortpacked: the tales of a dysfunctional toy store. This one's interesting because it touches on another kind of geekery altogether and because it sort of deconstructs the whole "drama in a comedy strip" conflict.
pbfcomics.com - The Perry Bible Fellowship: A mix of surreal and often macabre humor that plays with a variety of art styles.
I know video games and tech humor are where webcomics started, but the whole community has come a long way in the past 10 years and there are a lot of other things out there now too.
boltcity.com - Copper: A boy and his dog discuss life and love while wandering lush and whimsical landscapes.
drmcninja.com - Dr. McNinja: a send-up of superhero comics that just keeps getting weirder. So far he's fought Ronald McDonald, banditos riding velociraptors, and a Danish action hero with an army of ninjas, to name a few.
gunnerkrigg.com - Gunnerkrigg Court: two girls explore the mysterious Gunnerkrigg Court, a school with many secrets where magic and technology collide.
xkcd.com - XKCD: stick figures having amazingly geeky conversations and graphs describing the effects of bacon on health.
seraph-inn.com - Inverloch and The Phoenix Requiem: not one but two high fantasy adventures with beautiful artwork. As an added bonus, Inverloch is finished so you could go read the whole thing from beginning to end now and never have to wait for an update.
shortpacked.com - Shortpacked: the tales of a dysfunctional toy store. This one's interesting because it touches on another kind of geekery altogether and because it sort of deconstructs the whole "drama in a comedy strip" conflict.
pbfcomics.com - The Perry Bible Fellowship: A mix of surreal and often macabre humor that plays with a variety of art styles.
I know video games and tech humor are where webcomics started, but the whole community has come a long way in the past 10 years and there are a lot of other things out there now too.
This review made me go through my webcomics list, and I came to the realization that there are no good gaming based webcomics. There's a few nice ones with gaming refrences, but any webcomic about games or gaming (of the video kind) always seams to suck bullocks.
Penny Arcade is as someone said garbage humour with superfluous language, or more often than not these days not humour at all. Seriously, look at the current storyline; it's ping pong to save the world in bizarre situations... because.... somehow, that's funny? CAD I don't think really needs to be covered any more than it already has. VGCats is occasionally acceptable but updates effectively never. And I really can't be bothered talking about Little Gamers beyond "meh".
Now where does the tiff between Yatzee and Buckly come from? As this is the first of heard of it, or does Mr. Croshaw just dislike CAD; a lot!
Penny Arcade is as someone said garbage humour with superfluous language, or more often than not these days not humour at all. Seriously, look at the current storyline; it's ping pong to save the world in bizarre situations... because.... somehow, that's funny? CAD I don't think really needs to be covered any more than it already has. VGCats is occasionally acceptable but updates effectively never. And I really can't be bothered talking about Little Gamers beyond "meh".
Now where does the tiff between Yatzee and Buckly come from? As this is the first of heard of it, or does Mr. Croshaw just dislike CAD; a lot!
I find this entire argument sort of odd...
A friend of my brother's from highschool is good friends with Tim, and I've always heard good stuff from him. I think my brother met him at a party, along with Gabe and Tycho. What is this about him being an asshole?
And about the miscarraige thing... Sure it's depressing and an odd turn for a normally funny comic. But without intense drama, is the comedy even noticeable? I'm sure there was a Terry Pratchett book where a beloved character died, and I'm sure that some of the best comedies have their sad moments.
The whole video was a thinly veiled attack on CAD. Ethan is the first guy, Lucas is the second, and Lilah is the third. Yes Ethan is stupid, Lucas is the straight man, and yes Lilah is like a mother. But name me a sitcom in the last 20 years which doesn't contain a main male character infatuated with breasts/the promise of sex?
I'm not the world's biggest CAD fan, in fact I like Penny-Arcade much better. But criticizing a writer for writing what he want's because it's not what you expect? Seems kind of wrong.
A friend of my brother's from highschool is good friends with Tim, and I've always heard good stuff from him. I think my brother met him at a party, along with Gabe and Tycho. What is this about him being an asshole?
And about the miscarraige thing... Sure it's depressing and an odd turn for a normally funny comic. But without intense drama, is the comedy even noticeable? I'm sure there was a Terry Pratchett book where a beloved character died, and I'm sure that some of the best comedies have their sad moments.
The whole video was a thinly veiled attack on CAD. Ethan is the first guy, Lucas is the second, and Lilah is the third. Yes Ethan is stupid, Lucas is the straight man, and yes Lilah is like a mother. But name me a sitcom in the last 20 years which doesn't contain a main male character infatuated with breasts/the promise of sex?
I'm not the world's biggest CAD fan, in fact I like Penny-Arcade much better. But criticizing a writer for writing what he want's because it's not what you expect? Seems kind of wrong.
Amazing, I never thought I would laugh at a CAD-ish webcomic! You are a genius dude!Inriri said:Great vid. I stopped reading CAD a while ago, but it is a rule that if you remove all the text and splice the comic with other comics you can get something funny out of it.
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This whole thing is almost territorial. On the CAD forums they're all defending the comic, on here we're all giving Yahtzee virtual pats on the back, but none of the CAD defenders dare say anything on here for the sake of their own sanity
Really? Did you read all the posts?Vanguard_Ex said:This whole thing is almost territorial. On the CAD forums they're all defending the comic, on here we're all giving Yahtzee virtual pats on the back, but none of the CAD defenders dare say anything on here for the sake of their own sanity