Are you sure about that? This guy’s talent warrants merit in the same exalted company as Freddie Mercury or Bruce Dickinson or Nana Mouskouri or Luciano Pavarotti? Are we fucking certain about that?Yes he is probably a once in a life time talent
Are you sure about that? This guy’s talent warrants merit in the same exalted company as Freddie Mercury or Bruce Dickinson or Nana Mouskouri or Luciano Pavarotti? Are we fucking certain about that?Yes he is probably a once in a life time talent
On the contrary, the list of talented but terrible people I know of is long enough that I'm convinced the odds of "With great talent comes great dickery" is like 50%.The only thing that is good about this is that is challenges the Halo effect that is strong within the average person. Yes he is probably a once in a life time talent and yes he is also a huge piece a shit at the same time. Those two things can exist together.
Talented people may often be cocky, because they are "better" (at certain things) than other people. Fame and success are also of course forms of power, and with power comes ability to exploit and abuse. Many of them are ambitious, and this can come with a mindset to get ahead, kicking people out of the way where necessary. Finally, for some at least, if success comes as a major change to their life, it can be something they are unprepared for and do not know how to cope with, destabilising them and leading to unpleasant and often self-destructive behaviour.On the contrary, the list of talented but terrible people I know of is long enough that I'm convinced the odds of "With great talent comes great dickery" is like 50%.
For the RnB genre through the 90s and 2000s with his music and production and songs he has written on his resume I would say yes. But if you are not into the genre it can be missed like I only knew two people out of the 4 you mentioned but I will take your word for it that they are exalted talents.Are you sure about that? This guy’s talent warrants merit in the same exalted company as Freddie Mercury or Bruce Dickinson or Nana Mouskouri or Luciano Pavarotti? Are we fucking certain about that?
Here's the problem I have with '90s R&B (and most R&B today and most popular music period: ) because someone can sing, and the songs they sing are generally regarded as "good," very little of it stood out as unique, like, AT ALL. Everyone was singing the same song to or about their "baby" or "making love," and the shit was so overwhelmingly generic across the board, NONE of it stands out to me. Do I recall many of the songs? Yeah, when I hear them, I can say I heard them before, but formative to my youth or the industry? The former, absolutely not. The latter? Unfortunately yes, because it was so lazily copy-pasted, valuing fame over actual talent, it's its own genre: Pop(ular) music. It's entertainment; it's not anything you couldn't find during karaoke night at a dive bar. Is R. Kelly a "once in a lifetime talent?" No, he's a dime a dozen.For the RnB genre through the 90s and 2000s with his music and production and songs he has written on his resume I would say yes. But if you are not into the genre it can be missed like I only knew two people out of the 4 you mentioned but I will take your word for it that they are exalted talents.
So what you're saying is: You're pissed off and you hope he gets pissed on?OT, hope he goes to prison and gets peed on.
Pretty much. Having never been to prison, not sure if the rumors are true, but "honor amongst thieves" n'all, I hear inmates in for their various, run-of-the-mill crimes like murder and robbery collectively don't take kindly to kiddie-diddlers, and I'm sure there's some clout to be had "having one's way" with an iconic R&B criminal who fancies peeing on underaged girls...So what you're saying is: You're pissed off and you hope he gets pissed on?
That defense lawyer can get multiple knee bashes to the face for all I'm concerned. That is got to be one of the dumbest closing arguments I've ever heard. What the hell is even trying to prove? I should cut out his tongue for that statement alone.R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
Regardless of the outcome in the New York trial, Kelly still faces additional charges in Illinois and Minnesota.www.theroot.com
Oh my god, that little blurb for the article is amazing.R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
Regardless of the outcome in the New York trial, Kelly still faces additional charges in Illinois and Minnesota.www.theroot.com
I think a substantial part of this is that when someone makes it big, what you get are a mass of copycats - the industry either selects artists very similar or manufactures them. In the end, everything blurs into a mass. In the end, it will all blur into a big mass of similar stuff. There are normally some stand-out artists a cut above who still manage to sound distinctive, but...Here's the problem I have with '90s R&B (and most R&B today and most popular music period: ) because someone can sing, and the songs they sing are generally regarded as "good," very little of it stood out as unique, like, AT ALL.
What you'll also get are cons who see someone famous and (presumably still relatively) rich who will protect him because they'll expect something in return.Pretty much. Having never been to prison, not sure if the rumors are true, but "honor amongst thieves" n'all, I hear inmates in for their various, run-of-the-mill crimes like murder and robbery collectively don't take kindly to kiddie-diddlers, and I'm sure there's some clout to be had "having one's way" with an iconic R&B criminal who fancies peeing on underaged girls...
Never cared for him or his works.The more I learn about R. Kelly the less I like him.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAR. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
Regardless of the outcome in the New York trial, Kelly still faces additional charges in Illinois and Minnesota.www.theroot.com
Only thing to make my life completeSo what you're saying is: You're pissed off and you hope he gets pissed on?
First The Onion gets too real to be funny, now The Boondocks...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA
Lucky you unfortunately Mr. Kells is associated with numerous nostalgic moments of my life from backseat car rides, school time dances and singing and lots and lots of family bbqs especially being from his home city. Consider yourself lucky.Never cared for him or his works.
I need a really really hard drink after reading that. That literally played out like the Boondocks episode and it was played straight. And someoone out there probably thinks the same way. They must be hunted down.R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
Regardless of the outcome in the New York trial, Kelly still faces additional charges in Illinois and Minnesota.www.theroot.com
Okay, the first one is an absolute insult to a truly great man, and the other two are not exactly what I'd consider to be compliments.R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
R. Kelly’s Defense Presents Closing Arguments Comparing Him to Martin Luther King Jr., Hugh Hefner and Mike Pence
Regardless of the outcome in the New York trial, Kelly still faces additional charges in Illinois and Minnesota.www.theroot.com
Bill Cosby reportedly got along great with his fellow inmates because of how famous he was.I think a substantial part of this is that when someone makes it big, what you get are a mass of copycats - the industry either selects artists very similar or manufactures them. In the end, everything blurs into a mass. In the end, it will all blur into a big mass of similar stuff. There are normally some stand-out artists a cut above who still manage to sound distinctive, but...
One thing that's inevitably funny is listening to an interview with an artist who is painfully obviously ripping off the sound of a major artist, and then conspicuously omitting that major artist when they're asked who their inspirations are.
What you'll also get are cons who see someone famous and (presumably still relatively) rich who will protect him because they'll expect something in return.
I grew up with I believe I can fly, but only because of Space JamLucky you unfortunately Mr. Kells is associated with numerous nostalgic moments of my life from backseat car rides, school time dances and singing and lots and lots of family bbqs especially being from his home city. Consider yourself lucky.
I need a really really hard drink after reading that. That literally played out like the Boondocks episode and it was played straight. And someoone out there probably thinks the same way. They must be hunted down.
It seems like he's trying to appeal emotionally to the jury by playing "strong", which sadly is something that works on a lot of people.That defense lawyer can get multiple knee bashes to the face for all I'm concerned. That is got to be one of the dumbest closing arguments I've ever heard. What the hell is even trying to prove?