So how did anyone enjoy playing the last of us if they weren't a 14 year old girl named Ellie or a 40-year old man who lost a daughter in tragic circumstances?
For political brownie points. For activism. Because that's what you, as an artist, want to do. There are many reasons.
Because "manly man protects child" is a popular trope, and has been for some time. It's like "Damsel in distress", but instead the damsel isn't locked away in another castle, she or he is by your side the whole time.
Which does not really matter when it comes to definitions. The fact will still be that it is not normal no matter how much you say it makes people feel bad so the only logical course of action, in my eyes at any rate, is still to own up to it being weird and say, "So what?"
Except I didn't say that at all. I dont want characters to be gay because of tolken homosexuality. If you had read my other posts about making Ellie go on a journey to save a girl shes likes while discovering her true sexuality (gay) on the way, that would have been great.
But why does it have to be that way? Why can't she just be gay, and not a big deal made out of it?
Yeah, I'm sure Ellie chose to be gay during the apocalypse.
Yes, you could do that, but if you're criticizing a work for something it doesn't do, then that can potentially stretch ad infinitum.
Because they are purposefully highlighting it. I've said for a long time that characters being or not being gay doesn't really matter unless their is relationship choices within a game (ala mass effect, dragon age, etc.)
If your argument is 'pandering to minorities is a huge turn off to the majority' then it kind of does disprove it. Because people, all people, went to go see it. It didn't turn them off from seeing the next Marvel movie just because most of the cast was black. And if what you say is true, it should have regardless of the Marvel brand.
As well, no. Well in general, yes. It's Black Panther; you'd have the Marvel fans already. Remember Blade? It was a huge hit before Marvel movies were even a thing, and it starred a black dude. Brides Maids was a huge hit despite being all women. And with both of those cases it wasn't just black people/women that went to go see it.
Yeah, that's a bit of an extreme example, don't you think? Tyler Perry is kind of one of those weird fringe cases, like Christian hallmark movies.
And yet, most of these will have a lot of people from outside of that target audience consuming and enjoying it. You have adults loving cartoons, girls loving action movies and games, and guys loving rom-coms. And not just a small percentage.
Yes, one single trailer out of who knows how many. Oh, the horror.
It actually would, because Peach clearly has the hots for Mario, and Mario seems reciprocal to them.
Except that's not how things actually work.
OR, you could write your story where your character is gay, and have that be part of their character, but not the definition of it.
This has been the year of major disappointments. If TLoU2 ends up being shit, which judging from it's obxious tone might very well be the case, it'll complete the trifecta along with RE3 Remake and the ending to FF7 Remake.
'Pandering', or "targeting" doesn't have to be done to one group at a time. You can 'target' multiple demographics at once, or you can just target one. Black Panther targets multiple demographics at once. Tyler Perry movies... not so much.
Yep. That's not a problem, nor does it disprove the existence of targeted demographics.
It's not about 'not relating', some people just don't like homosexuality. It doesn't appeal to them. These people aren't necessarily bigots anymore than a white person isn't necessarily a bigot for not being interested in a Jordan Peele movie (Get Out, specifically).
Skillup said he could only use footage from 3 specific sections of the game as per the embargo. There were certain key things I was looking for in the reviews. I wanted to know how long the game is because playing a 20+ hour long TLOU game does not sound very enticing to me, and TLOU2 seems to be in the 25 hour neighborhood. I also wanted to know how "open world" the game was as I didn't want an open world TLOU, which from the reviews it's still linear level design but in bigger sized levels. I also wanted to know their opinions on the story and whether it's something great or not.
If it's specifically because it stars a black person, then yes, that is extremely bigoted.
You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.
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Isn't that just a normal thing though? Like how people who like BDSM or are furries are closeted oftentimes as well? Are people supposed to not express that something disgusts them or repels them because someone else who is into that thing whatever it is is closeted?
You know how British comedy is it's own unique thing? African-American comedy is too. They each draw from what that culture finds funny, and may involve situations that are more likely to occur in that culture. Sometimes I'll watch a British comedy sketch and not get a joke or two because I'm unfamiliar with what they reference. It doesn't make me racist against British people to say "this doesn't appeal to me". Same thing with African-American comedy.
How?
Wait, are we disagreeing, or not? Because I more or less agree that the point to strive for is for no-one to blink an eye, that celebrating a gay character would be like celebrating a female character.
Yeah, that's still bigoted. That's judging someone on the colour of their skin and deciding you're not going to like what they have to say.
I liken that to vegetarians eating a tomato sauce they like in vegetarian-seeming pasta and then finding out there was beef bones in the stock that went into the sauce. Learning you enjoyed something you dislike on a fundamental level can feel like you were tricked in some sense.
I think we mostly agree. I just don't think naughty dog's previous statements and the multitudes of leaks they had indicate that they're just neutrally making a game that happens to be that way. If not patting themselves, they're definitely presenting their back in a very inviting way to the woke crowds lol.
If Naughty Dog HAS been patting themselves on the back, then I would agree that should be called out, or a "yeah, whatever mate." That said, I can criticize both.
