School shooting at Texas Elementary school, several children reported dead

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YET ANOTHER shithead who wants to blame gaming


Though I have to wonder if he's serious about this or trying to say SOMETHING to prolong the ultimate blame?
 
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When I was searching for a job some people recommend me to get a security guard job. They said it would be easy I won't not have to worry about anything. I refused because I was worried that something would happen and people would die because of me...

apparently these cops didn't have that thought. because they weren't a small town they thought it would be easy job. They never thought they would actually do their jobs
 

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When I was searching for a job some people recommend me to get a security guard job. They said it would be easy I won't not have to worry about anything. I refused because I was worried that something would happen and people would die because of me...

apparently these cops didn't have that thought. because they weren't a small town they thought it would be easy job. They never thought they would actually do their jobs
Well it depends on what they think their job is. A lot of people join the police for the power and respect. You get to boss people around and cosplay a hero.
When actual danger presented itself, it wasn't fun anymore. The cosplay got too IRL.
I mean look at this. This is absurd. This is cringe and sad. All dressed up as badasses with full kit, full gear, looking tough, smirking and wanting to be seen as a killer. And then they all just shit their pants and wanted the children to deal with the mean man.
I guess they don't think its fair when the other team gets to shoot back.



One thing I always hate too is after these shootings you always hear some officer say the number one priority was the safety of the officers. NO ITS FUCKING NOT. The number one priority is the safety of the civilians you've taken a job to protect. As a SWAT officer in that situation your job is to get the shooter to shoot at you, because every bullet that goes for you isn't going for a kid. They did the same shit during the Austin city bombings, saying the priority of the police was the safety of the officers, NOT the safety of civilians or the city.
I hope every last officer is dismissed from the force, given no benefits, and are brought up on negligent homicide charges.
 
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When I was searching for a job some people recommend me to get a security guard job. They said it would be easy I won't not have to worry about anything. I refused because I was worried that something would happen and people would die because of me...

apparently these cops didn't have that thought. because they weren't a small town they thought it would be easy job. They never thought they would actually do their jobs
My friend was a night security guard at an old folks home. They didn't want them to carry weapons or anything since they were there just to be there, not to try and chase down or get into a fight with someone. If they saw something amiss then they were to call the cops. I think he only had one weird encounter the whole time he worked there and they took off when they saw him. Depending on the type of security it might just be physically being there so a place doesn't look abandoned, in which case you can pretty much do what you want as long as you occasionally check around the building/s and don't fall asleep outside of break.
 

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I was always a bit gunshy about the #ACAB thing but with all the shit we've seen at protests and how fucking tough these guys are against unarmed protesters and then wilt the second they actually get to fulfill the wet dream of being THE HERO, fuck'em all
 

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Can I file a false advertising lawsuit to force them to remove "To Protect and Serve" from their logo? They've proven that it's not in their mission statement.
Yeah, no. That's their motto and they sure fulfill on. You just didn't read the fine print about WHO they are protecting and serving. It sure isn't going to be anyone in that school
 

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YET ANOTHER shithead who wants to blame gaming


Though I have to wonder if he's serious about this or trying to say SOMETHING to prolong the ultimate blame?
What's cyber-gaming? Did the shooter have Elon's neuralink or what? Or is this fossil still using gaming to mean gambling at a casino? lol
 

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Yeah, no. That's their motto and they sure fulfill on. You just didn't read the fine print about WHO they are protecting and serving. It sure isn't going to be anyone in that school
Wasn't there some supreme court ruling saying the cop don't actually have to protect people?
 

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Wasn't there some supreme court ruling saying the cop don't actually have to protect people?
I'm pretty sure they were never design to protect people. They were designed by rich people to protect themselves from poor people
 

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I'm pretty sure they were never design to protect people. They were designed by rich people to protect themselves from poor people
There is an interpretation that the police protect society, rather than the individuals within it. I might speculate as a parallel the idea that when someone is prosecuted for criminal acts, they are prosecuted in the name of the state, not the victim.

One of the obvious downsides of protecting "society" is that, arguably, policing will therefore defend the existing power structures of society, and privilege high socioeconomic status individuals.
 

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Because a hostile narrative must never go un-pushed

Minutes after Tuesday's tragic shooting at the Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, false rumours began spreading about the identity of the gunman.

Images of three separate trans women were shared online purporting to be of the gunman, and leading to a barrage of abuse.

The inaccurate claims were also amplified by US politicians and political influencers, some of whom also more broadly linked transgenderism to violence.

Rumours begin
Almost immediately after the shooting, pictures of the gunman, Salvador Ramos, 18, appeared online.

Ramos didn't have a huge social media footprint - but one photo in particular was widely circulated. Taken from his Instagram and TikTok accounts, it showed him looking into a mirror wearing a dark grey hoodie.

The rumour that he was trans appears to have started on the fringe message board 4chan, and in particular the /pol/ or "Politically Incorrect" board, which has for years been associated with the far-right and mass shootings. A controversial hub of internet subculture, 4chan has been the birthplace of many harassment and trolling campaigns.

Users posted an image of a trans woman who slightly resembled Ramos, along with a link to her Reddit profile, and baselessly claimed she was the gunman.

It didn't take long for the claim to migrate to other, larger social platforms, and it began to be repeated by far-right and right-wing activists and politicians.

Conservative activist Candace Owens claimed there were photos of the gunman "cross-dressing", and claimed this was evidence that "there were plenty of signs that he was mentally disturbed".

Republican congressman Paul Gosar, of Arizona, repeated the trans claim in a tweet that he later deleted. Mr Gosar also called the gunman, who was born in the United States, an "illegal alien", although Texas governor Greg Abbott, also a Republican, stated that Ramos was a US citizen.

We contacted Ms Owens, and Mr Gosar's spokesperson, for comment.

Screenshot of Paul Gosar's post


Another congressman, Paul Sessions, claimed in an interview on the Today Programme on Thursday that Ramos "wore dresses".

Sam, the transgender woman targeted by the 4chan campaign, posted on Reddit saying that she didn't live in Texas and was alive after the shooting, even though Ramos was shot dead.

But Sam - not her real name - wasn't the only trans person targeted by false stories. Images of Sabrina, another trans woman, appeared in photo collages alongside the actual photo of the gunman, with similar false claims.

She posted an image of herself holding her phone with the time and date visible to prove she was alive after the shooting. And another trans person's image which also appeared on 4chan later popped up in far-right spaces, including conspiracy theorist Alex Jones's Infowars website.

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Common pattern
This is not the first time that trans and other LGBT individuals have been the targets of misinformation, says Mallory Moore, a researcher with the Trans Safety Network, a UK-based organisation.

She says the organisation advised Sabrina on how to put social media safeguards in place following the attack and online abuse - something she described as "pre-emptive".

"As things tend to spiral, people will pick through someone's social media and dump it online," she says. "Getting ahead of that is a sensible precaution."

As often happens after mass shootings, a number of other false rumours spread in the wake of the attack.

BBC News observed at least a dozen fake accounts claiming to belong to the gunman in the aftermath, most of which were attempts to copy his removed, genuine account on Instagram. Most have been removed.



If videogames weren't brought up as one of their scapegoats during that convention, I'd be surprised.
 
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(If these reports are true, every last one of those officers needs to, at the very least, lose their job and pension. I'd prefer to see them prosecuted for criminal neglect, but hey, no constitutional duty to protect, so on.)
If they lose their jobs, they'd move to another jurisdiction and become police there.

And, while I in no way want to downplay the seriousness of the police inaction, if it turns out to be true (hard to say just yet) that Border Patrol agents saw a situation that absolutely wasn't their responsibility, but took it upon themselves to act because the people who were supposed to refused to...I don't hold Border Patrol in high esteem, but well done for once.
 
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If videogames weren't brought up as one of their scapegoats during that convention, I'd be surprised.
Throw enough shit at the wall, some of it will stick. The shit to throw is that it's the fault of anything and everything that means guns should not be restricted in any way.
 
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that Border Patrol agents saw a situation that absolutely wasn't their responsibility, but took it upon themselves to act because the people who were supposed to refused to...I don't hold Border Patrol in high esteem, but well done for once.
At least they bothered to do their job and go above and beyond. I agree.

Well it depends on what they think their job is. A lot of people join the police for the power and respect. You get to boss people around and cosplay a hero.
When actual danger presented itself, it wasn't fun anymore. The cosplay got too IRL.
I mean look at this. This is absurd. This is cringe and sad. All dressed up as badasses with full kit, full gear, looking tough, smirking and wanting to be seen as a killer. And then they all just shit their pants and wanted the children to deal with the mean man.
I guess they don't think its fair when the other team gets to shoot back.



One thing I always hate too is after these shootings you always hear some officer say the number one priority was the safety of the officers. NO ITS FUCKING NOT. The number one priority is the safety of the civilians you've taken a job to protect. As a SWAT officer in that situation your job is to get the shooter to shoot at you, because every bullet that goes for you isn't going for a kid. They did the same shit during the Austin city bombings, saying the priority of the police was the safety of the officers, NOT the safety of civilians or the city.
I hope every last officer is dismissed from the force, given no benefits, and are brought up on negligent homicide charges.
So much for living by the gun, and dying by the gun. You are SWAT officers, it's your job! If not that, then why bother signing up?! I know protections of ones self is important, but if all you're doing is signing up to look "cool or bad ass", then stick to professional cosplay and fuck off. And if you're really that much of a coward, you might as well work Bison, Shang Tsung, or Shao Khan.
 
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