I directly addressed the studies provided directly, like the NIH one that didn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. The only thing here I'm consciously not engaging with is YouTube guff, because I'm trying to drag you away from that terrible practice.
No, I fucking didn't ignore that, I said that in 15 years athletes are past their primes (which she fucking said in the video as well). Also there's like no data on long-term effect of transitioning. The study you are referencing is like the only one and it only had 8 participants. I guess we should base our vaccine policy on that one autism study that only had 12 participants then...
Money has a lot less to do with being good at sports (outside of the expensive sports like figure skating) than being financially successful in life.
You we're the one who brought up growing up in a well off family, my dude. Regardless, trans people aren't exactly dominating jack and/or squat with regards to sports, so logic dictates we're in the ballpark fairness wise
They are literally about the effects of hormone replacement therapy on trans people.
It's the exact same logic, you just reject the premise of the former and accept the premise of the latter
Who cares if they are or are not dominating something? Use the actual scientific data we have.
The actual scientific data and real world examples we have show that they aren't dominating women's sports. So who cares?
Uhh, yeah, there's actually a fair bit of overlap. We aren't nearly as sexually dimorphic as other species.
See, I already posted times, showed some of the many instances trans people lost, and generally did the napkin math showing that it seems fair. Life isn't your white-room math simulations and you're wrong about those anyway. What evidence would you accept, rules such that a trans women could never actually win? I honestly do not believe it would be possible to convince you specifically of fairness short of literal divine intervention
No
The data says they will have advantage and dominate.
I can't use terms the way they are defined?
Except they verifiably do not do that. So the data is wrong
Not a thing that's happening, and sport dependent
"A handful of examples" is literally all we have
Yeah. White room math isn't matching reality.
If you are comparing trans women to women, then you are partially comparing trans women to themselves.
Well, at least you're now being explicit that your position is just grounded in old-fashioned prejudice.
The topic is still about including trans women in women's sports, and clearly that can't be similarly written off.
I honestly think that if there was literal divine intervention, Phoenix would argue with whatever deity was involved, and walk away feeling they had won.
And if someone like LeBron transitioned, they would dominate the WNBA. The gap between men and women isn't that great that any man transitioning will dominate women.
I'm using the term as defined. Women is based on sex not gender.
Not my fault you all don't like science.
Given that the WNBA doesn't ban trans women from playing, wake me up if it ever starts happening.
There are zero dominant trans women in sports
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Hilarious semantic argument given that you haven't defined terms and are objecting to defined terms for "unkown" reasons
You're thinking of Female, and really only when talking about non-human animals. Please don't turn this into yet more "how dare you call women people!"
You're demanding proof that science cannot show. Not because the science say something else, but because science is incapable of ever showing proof like that
So now that we've eliminated the profit motive, how's that "there's zero dominant trans women in women's sports" thing?
No, because demographic surveys don't work like that. Same way as you can't claim somebody is smart just because their general peer group is smart. Matter of fact, your insistence that trans women who're shorter than their opponents have a height advantage regardless is exactly the thing. Men generally being taller than women doesn't give Mugsy Bogues a height advantage, but that's the sort of logic you want to use
"We have scientific proof!" Posts a screenshot of a definition of woman that doesn't differentiate between sex and gender, purely because he objects to the adjective cis
It's going to blow Phoenixings mind when they hear transwomen say they have their own period
