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It's like the 4th release date....

Todd: "We are serious now guys, the release date is set for September!"

Us: "Ok cool, are you sure?"

Todd: "Totally. At least 76% sure!"

Us: "Can we get a gameplay trailer then?"

Todd: "uh....It's coming in September!"
Why did it seem like Phil was pointing a gun at Todd just off camera.
 
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Speaking of delays https://kotaku.com/dc-suicide-squad-delay-kill-the-justice-league-batman-1850208924

This looks like ultimately another Marvel's Avenger's situation. Where they are trying to make a live service game without really any understand of how to do it and not having enough of a framework to make a game like that work. Instead you have a game that really should play like that Guardians of the Galaxy game, a character driven story action game that's light hearted super hero action. No big deal.

But these companies think that everything can be an infinite money generator and that shit just aint going to happen. Especially as people are starting to actively ignore and avoid games that do this because they've realized it's too much.
 

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Speaking of delays https://kotaku.com/dc-suicide-squad-delay-kill-the-justice-league-batman-1850208924

This looks like ultimately another Marvel's Avenger's situation. Where they are trying to make a live service game without really any understand of how to do it and not having enough of a framework to make a game like that work. Instead you have a game that really should play like that Guardians of the Galaxy game, a character driven story action game that's light hearted super hero action. No big deal.

But these companies think that everything can be an infinite money generator and that shit just aint going to happen. Especially as people are starting to actively ignore and avoid games that do this because they've realized it's too much.
Yahtzee just talking about this earlier today. I would have preferred Suicide Squads gameplay be in the style Anarchy Reigns, but that other idea works better than the live service model.

 
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Yahtzee just talking about this earlier today. I would have preferred Suicide Squads gameplay be in the style Anarchy Reigns, but that other idea works better than the live service model.

What's weird is that when I saw the big presentation at that State of Play, I thought that a GoG type of story and game was what the plan was. Maybe some co-op with friends online. But to make it a live service just seems like a total lost cause and incredibly bad idea, there isn't enough there to make it some continuous game, and the gameplay looks way too repetitive in order to hold attention of people beyond a 12-15hour campaign.
 
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Speaking of delays https://kotaku.com/dc-suicide-squad-delay-kill-the-justice-league-batman-1850208924

This looks like ultimately another Marvel's Avenger's situation. Where they are trying to make a live service game without really any understand of how to do it and not having enough of a framework to make a game like that work. Instead you have a game that really should play like that Guardians of the Galaxy game, a character driven story action game that's light hearted super hero action. No big deal.

But these companies think that everything can be an infinite money generator and that shit just aint going to happen. Especially as people are starting to actively ignore and avoid games that do this because they've realized it's too much.
What I don’t understand is the whole “10 year commitment” idea behind these live service games. Who wants to play the same game for 10 fucking years? No matter how acclaimed and great the game is, I would hate tokeep coming back for more.

I like for game to give me a sense of closure and complition. Yeah, I will probably come back every now and then, but not every few weeks or so just to see what items are avialable on the shop.

Kinda feel bad for the inviduals working on these games; I'd imagine they would love to be part of exciting new projects, not hammering away at the same game for 10 years
 

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Certainly not me and World of Warcraft, no sir. uh..ha ha...
At the very least, they are trying with major expansions. I guess that’s expected from a subscription-based system

I don’t think i ever saw content update of the same quality from any of the live-service games, especially f2p
 

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Another game delayed to September. That makes three now!

 

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It's like the 4th release date....

Todd: "We are serious now guys, the release date is set for September!"

Us: "Ok cool, are you sure?"

Todd: "Totally. At least 76% sure!"

Us: "Can we get a gameplay trailer then?"

Todd: "uh....It's coming in September!"
"We had a trailer but it kept crashing. Now if you excuse I need to get something out of my car"
*Sounds of frantic running footsteps followed by a door slamming, a car peeling out in the parking lot before driving away*


Now you can get a heart attack while getting loots in the the game!
This looks like an ad I would expect to see from an Evangelical group trying to smear KFC as being Satanic or something.

But apparently this a real fucking ad because.....I don't fucking know?

Also it took me a moment to realize that was two pieces of chicken with bacon and cheese in the middle and that's also a real thing.

I'm gonna go lie down for a bit. The world is getting too wierd, even for me.
 
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This isn't going to go well. I don't think people had much of a problem with the actual gameplay shown, people are shitting on it because of the live service nature. They can't polish that shit unless they are going to restructure the game to get rid of it entirely, but then you'll end up with a shell of a game and it'll be like Gotham Knights. I say the should just finish up the game, release it and cut their loses.
 

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I say the should just finish up the game, release it and cut their loses.
I vote for them to scrap and rebuild it completely. A Doom 2016 scenario. There's no way such a dull gameplay loop (at least judging from the gameplay demo) can hold anyone's attention. It's a real shame that K. Conroy got dragged into this... What is Rocksteady thinking? They broke the mold with Arkham Asylum, but now, after harnessing so much success - they're looking for ways to follow the latest trends?! Everything I've seen of the game so far makes me think that there isn't a single creative bone left in that team...
 

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What is Rocksteady thinking? They broke the mold with Arkham Asylum, but now, after harnessing so much success - they're looking for ways to follow the latest trends?! Everything I've seen of the game so far makes me think that there isn't a single creative bone left in that team...
Warner Bros. It always bounces back to Warner Bros. Rocksteady still shares some blame of course, but they can only do what they're told. It's the usual: publishers getting involved where they don't belong, and trying to get infinite money and infinite growth.
 
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