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Speaking of MK, it looks like were getting another mature-rated animated movie, feat. the late Gilbert Godfrey
Yeah, I posted in the general movie news thread earlier this evening. I find these way more interesting and engaging than the recent live action movie and its upcoming sequel.
 
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I swear, Irem Collection Vol.3 better have Undercover Cops (Japanese)/Alpha Renewal and Ninja Baseball Batman. Putting these arcade collections out on volumes is stupid. Give audiences the whole thing and be done with it. Comes out Feb 24, 2024.

 

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And it looks like the movie isn't the only way BL is getting fucked over.
Sorry, I'm lost, what's the issue here? The Borderlands movie is coming in 2024, another game being announced...how is this an issue?

Oh like that expanse game that never really did anything and stop really quickly
You mean The Expanse game that hasn't been released yet? Or is there context I'm missing?


Oh man, homelander, peacemaker, and omni-man all look great. Hopefully they are voiced by the same guys from the shows
I'm sure Homelander will be able to do it, provided the liberal media gets off his back after protecting his son at that rally.

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Sorry, I'm lost, what's the issue here? The Borderlands movie is coming in 2024, another game being announced...how is this an issue?
ELI ROTH IS THE ISSUE AS FAR AS THE MOVIE IS CONCERNED!

As for the multiplayer game: it's another one of those "the players/viewers get to decide what happens in the streaming/TV series". It's sounds like another TV series tie-ins that goes nowhere and wastes everyone's time. Like Quantum Break's Live Action segments, the big failure that was Defiance (both the MMO and TV series), or the tragedy of multimedia tie-ins (books, prequel novels, all in the manual official web pages, movie, etc.) to understand anything in FFXV.

That is all. If you don't get it, than I have nothing else to say. You either see the problem or don't.
 
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ELI ROTH IS THE ISSUE AS FAR AS THE MOVIE IS CONCERNED!
Um, why?

Sorry, I had to look up who Roth even was. Far as his filmography goes, the only film of his I've seen is 'Clock in the Walls', that was pretty neat. Apart from that, don't know what the problem is. Sure, the film itself seems to have had a problematic production, but that doesn't seem to be inherent to Roth himself.

As for the multiplayer game: it's another one of those "the players/viewers get to decide what happens in the streaming/TV series". It's sounds like another TV series tie-ins that goes nowhere and wastes everyone's time. Like Quantum Break's Live Action segments, the big failure that was Defiance (both the MMO and TV series), or the tragedy of multimedia tie-ins (books, prequel novels, all in the manual official web pages, movie, etc.) to understand anything in FFXV.
Okay, and? Lots of IPs have had tie-in TV series, that isn't inherently bad or good in of itself. Even if EchoVision falls into "bad" end of the category, I'm not sure what harm that does in any specific way.

As for Defiance being a "big failure," really? The MMO was cancelled, the TV series concluded naturally as far as I'm aware. Only seen the first season, it was decent to good.

As for media tie-ins, well, yeah, I broadly agree that people shouldn't need to consume EU material to understand the core material, but that's different from saying there's a problem with EU material in of itself.

That is all. If you don't get it, than I have nothing else to say. You either see the problem or don't.
...I guess I don't?
 

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Um, why?

Sorry, I had to look up who Roth even was. Far as his filmography goes, the only film of his I've seen is 'Clock in the Walls', that was pretty neat. Apart from that, don't know what the problem is. Sure, the film itself seems to have had a problematic production, but that doesn't seem to be inherent to Roth himself.
Hostel I & II. Torture porn movies; neither are good and are horrible.Turistas sucked too, but not as much those two. Cabin Fever is whatever, but I'm never watching that again either. His films I don't find all that good and they were just about being as graphic as possible without much rhyme, reason, nor taste. I would never have him do a Borderlands movie. I'd sooner hire the Crank duo than him. They have some kinetic energy and spark that would make sense for that type of movie.

Okay, and? Lots of IPs have had tie-in TV series, that isn't inherently bad or good in of itself. Even if EchoVision falls into "bad" end of the category, I'm not sure what harm that does in any specific way.

As for Defiance being a "big failure," really? The MMO was cancelled, the TV series concluded naturally as far as I'm aware. Only seen the first season, it was decent to good.
Keep in mind, Defiance is supposed to have more than one season. They were expecting like three or four seasons. The MMO was supposed to last way longer than a year and a half. So yeah, a big failure. And that's to tge list of another MMO that didn't make it far, and became forgotten about in the anals of history.
As for media tie-ins, well, yeah, I broadly agree that people shouldn't need to consume EU material to understand the core material, but that's different from saying there's a problem with EU material in of itself.
Still something you don't downplay and is still a big problem with a lot of cross media that try this bull crap, constantly fails, and most of the AAA industry never learns from this.

.I guess I don't?
And that is on you. You have a habit of ignoring examples people give even when it's right in front of you or down playing them and not seeing them as a big deal. As you have just done. I'm not doing this back and forth so toodles on that. I'll let the results speak for themselves when they happen. If this does have any "success", it will become miniscule and just another gimmick at best. Hell, Konami is doing a similar thing on their Silent Hill titles. Take that into consideration. They whores out that franchise enough as it is. I don't trust it, and neither does @FakeSympathy.
 
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Keep in mind, Defiance is supposed to have more than one season. They were expecting like three or four seasons.
It got three seasons, what are you on about?

The MMO was supposed to last way longer than a year and a half. So yeah, a big failure. And that's to tge list of another MMO that didn't make it far, and became forgotten about in the anals of history.
Well, yes, the MMO was a failure, was Defiance as a whole a failure? Debateable.

Still something you don't downplay and is still a big problem with a lot of cross media that try this bull crap, constantly fails, and most of the AAA industry never learns from this.
I don't know where you're getting the idea of cross-media "constantly failing," there's a plethora of IPs that have extensive EUs that are going strong, heck, IPs where the lore is exclusively in EU material effectively (League of Legends is perhaps the premier example when it comes to this, and that was well before Arcane). Heck, there's even cases where the EU material becomes more popular than the core material (e.g. Sonic Boom).

And that is on you. You have a habit of ignoring examples people give even when it's right in front of you or down playing them and not seeing them as a big deal.
Bob: X is a problem.

Bill: I don't think X is a problem.

Bob: Why are you denying X is a problem?

That's pretty much the argument you're making. Cross-media stuff has been part and parcel since at least the 90s in games, and goes further back when you factor in stuff like films. Like anything, it runs the gamete of quality.
 

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It got three seasons, what are you on about?
My mistake then. Still forgotten about, with not too many people remembering it. I forgot it existed at one point. The only reason I remembered was a YouTube critic (Monty Zander, if I remember correctly) bringing the show/game up in his Quantum Break video.

Well, yes, the MMO was a failure, was Defiance as a whole a failure? Debateable.
Yes. It is when most people have forgotten about it, or bring up how most of its ideas failed to really make an impact.

I don't know where you're getting the idea of cross-media "constantly failing," there's a plethora of IPs that have extensive EUs that are going strong, heck, IPs where the lore is exclusively in EU material effectively (League of Legends is perhaps the premier example when it comes to this, and that was well before Arcane). Heck, there's even cases where the EU material becomes more popular than the core material (e.g. Sonic Boom).
Note how I said a lot, and not all. Read between the lines. I said a lot have messed up on this. I know not all stories like this are failures, but it still doesn't stop many of them fucking up someway or somehow. Sturgeon's Law and all that. As for Sonic Boom, it lucked out (not trying to downplay the show), because at least the TV writers knew what they were given and actually tried to make the best of it. They knew what kind of show they were making, and were lucky to be given a Season 2 with a better budget and action. The show still had its own issues with advertisement, because Cartoon Network barely promoted the show, and it got quietly cancelled. Still doesn't change the fact that Sega fucked up real hard to Sonic 06 levels with Rise of Lyric, and what else we got were two average platformers on the 3DS. So people messed up on both ends. In this case, it was the case of executives not caring enough to advertise or rushing a buggy game out for a quick profit.

As much as I like the show, there are changes I still didn't like nor agree with. Many others as well, but I am not going to get into every single one of them. Removing Knuckles backstory and turning him into a dumb(er) muscle head did no favors, and is a big sticking point for me. Loveable memes or not. I don't care how lighter and softer this universe is supposed to be.


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    • Cartoon Network did little to advertise and promote the show, which already had an awkward time slot at 7 AM Eastern. In fact, there wasn't an advertisement for the show on the network until after the premiere. What's more, Sonic Boom's TV show only had one full trailer which could only be watched on YouTube.
    • The advertising for Season 2 was arguably worse. Much like Season 1, the most promotion it had two trailers that could only be seen on YouTube, the second of which came out a week after the season premiere. The show was also moved to Boomerang after the season premiere with little to no fanfare.

  • Quietly Cancelled: Despite the utter failure of "Rise of Lyric", the cartoon did well enough to get a second season as well as another game attempt with "Fire & Ice". However "Fire & Ice" didn't do well enough sales-wise and, combined with Cartoon Network's atrocious scheduling for the show (the first season was put in an early morning slot and the second got bounced to their "Boomerang" channel, a channel that very few have), once the second season finished its run, there had been no word for quite a while from Sega if the show would continue. Eventually it was confirmed that the second season was the last one.
That's pretty much the argument you're making. Cross-media stuff has been part and parcel since at least the 90s in games, and goes further back when you factor in stuff like films. Like anything, it runs the gamete of quality.
Still doesn't change the problem that most of them are shit, and doesn't do much of anything, but wastes the consumer's time, and adds nothing to the overall experience. Only the very few have succeeded around the perfect storm for it to happen. Most have failed trying to make lightning strike twice or force it upon most that don't want it. I rest my case. Not my fault, if you can't see and refuse to notice the problem. Like I said before, I am not doing a back and forth on this. Evidence speaks for itself and I will ignore anything you else respond that is not relevant to the situation. Not wasting my entire morning or day on this.


China can still get fucked.

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My mistake then. Still forgotten about, with not too many people remembering it.

Yes. It is when most people have forgotten about it, or bring up how most of its ideas failed to really make an impact.
We're clearly using different definitions of failed. There's any number of sci-fi shows (heck, fiction, period) that reached the end of their run on their own terms that have faded from memory over time. I don't consider that a failure ipso facto. If the definition of failure is to fade from memory, then practically every piece of fiction will inevitably fail over time.

Still doesn't change the problem that most of them are shit, and doesn't do much of anything, but wastes the consumer's time, and adds nothing to the overall experience. Only the very few have succeeded around the perfect storm for it to happen. Most have failed trying to make lightning strike twice or force it upon most that don't want it. I rest my case. Not my fault, if you can't see and refuse to notice the problem. Like I said before, I am not doing a back and forth on this. Evidence speaks for itself and I will ignore anything you else respond that is not relevant to the situation.
I'm happy to not engage in a back and forth, but you're doing the same thing again - you make a claim ("most of them are shit," "most have failed," "most add nothing," etc.) and don't provide any evidence to back it up. And if Sturgeon's Law applies, and 90% of all transmedia/tie-in media/EU is shit, then that's still a red herring because Sturgeon's Law states that 90% of everything is shit, not "some things" or "specific types of things."

Oh sorry was the defiance game, same concept different TV show

I'm not seeing the connection. All Defiance and The Expanse have in common is that they're sci-fi, and even then, they're very different types of sci-fi. And in terms of media content, the approaches are completely different. Defiance was pitched as a joint MMO/TV series simultaniously. The Expanse started out as a novel series, which got a TV series, which got its own sub-comic series, the books got a TTRPG, and now we have the Telltale game, which is a prequel to the TV series. The Expanse is, like any number of IPs, one that's grown out organically. Heck, it's probably got more in common with A Song of Ice and Fire, since they've both got a fairly well deliniated book/TV show divide, with other media falling into one of the two continuities.