Funny events in anti-woke world

[Hades]

The Trump-Russia collusion was a farce made-up by the Clinton campaign... It was not Trump's conduct or crimes catching up with him. Stop lying about the democrats trying to remove a democratically elected president of lies they created. Trump doesn't have the power to change a constitutional amendment. You see all this Trump fear porn and you think it's true. It's not true. Trump challenging the votes legally was not doing it "the legal way"? It all got laughed out of court yet I'm sure you've been told by your fear porn that Trump stacked all the courts yet he got laugh out of court with all his stacked courts?

Every covid policy was literally the republicans saying "let's not do that". And the corporations with tons of money that fund the campaigns donate to both, they get what they what no matter who wins. They don't even care who wins.

What are you talking about? Trump was impeached over blackmailing Ukraine to intervene in the election, and for doing the coup. He was not impeached over Russiagate. And in both of those cases Trump could easily have avoided the impeachment by just not doing it. Its as clear cut a case of Trump's behavior catching up with him. And in the scenario the Republicans did their duty and removed him then he'd still be succeeded by his 2016 running mate. Had Trump been removed he'd be succeeded by the one who through democratic mandate is next in line. Had Trump's coup against Biden succeeded then Biden would have been replaced by the guy who explicitly lost the election and who had no mandate to speak of. You see the difference?

And the idea Trump couldn't or wouldn't sideline democracy seems disingenuous. Every single one of his demagogue peers tried to dismantle democracy so why should Trump be any different? The very fact that he did a coup to try and remain in power shows that Trump very clearly is not different from the likes of Orban or Erdogan. That he followed their playbook to the letter years before even doing the coup also shows he's not any different. The days when we could pretend far right demagogues were just democratically responsible actors who just happened to be quirky has been over for decades now. I know Americans tend not to look very much at the rest of the world but come on. Its clear who Trump admires and models himself after. Its also clear that project 2025 is there exactly to go remove any checks and balances that would prevent Trump from illegitimately furthering his power over the objections of the nation.

You can say ''laugh out of court'' all you want but that doesn't change the fact that Trump still wanted to have Pence crown him and then send a mob on the capitol when Pence was unable(not even unwilling, just unable) to do so. And that the repeated shouts of the election being ''stolen'' and his frequent court cases likely having been designed to get his supporters so enraged they'd go do the coup for him.

You're right that corporations donate to Democrats too. That's what I said. That the most damning thing about Democrats is that they are pro corporate. Its just that the Republicans happen to be pro corporate to a far more fanatical extend.

 

[Silvanus]

Firstly, that is a lie. Using pronouns is not part of that bill.

Literally section A explicitly identifies pronouns. It's even visible in the screenshotted section.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

"Just because it's the law doesn't mean they'll actually do it"

There, I've summarized the next 5 pages

 

[Phoenixmgs]

So all you as usual. You're a projection addict. Learn to get help and live with it.

Literally no clue what you are going on about.

What are you talking about? Trump was impeached over blackmailing Ukraine to intervene in the election, and for doing the coup. He was not impeached over Russiagate. And in both of those cases Trump could easily have avoided the impeachment by just not doing it. Its as clear cut a case of Trump's behavior catching up with him. And in the scenario the Republicans did their duty and removed him then he'd still be succeeded by his 2016 running mate. Had Trump been removed he'd be succeeded by the one who through democratic mandate is next in line. Had Trump's coup against Biden succeeded then Biden would have been replaced by the guy who explicitly lost the election and who had no mandate to speak of. You see the difference?

And the idea Trump couldn't or wouldn't sideline democracy seems disingenuous. Every single one of his demagogue peers tried to dismantle democracy so why should Trump be any different? The very fact that he did a coup to try and remain in power shows that Trump very clearly is not different from the likes of Orban or Erdogan. That he followed their playbook to the letter years before even doing the coup also shows he's not any different. The days when we could pretend far right demagogues were just democratically responsible actors who just happened to be quirky has been over for decades now. I know Americans tend not to look very much at the rest of the world but come on. Its clear who Trump admires and models himself after. Its also clear that project 2025 is there exactly to go remove any checks and balances that would prevent Trump from illegitimately furthering his power over the objections of the nation.

You can say ''laugh out of court'' all you want but that doesn't change the fact that Trump still wanted to have Pence crown him and then send a mob on the capitol when Pence was unable(not even unwilling, just unable) to do so. And that the repeated shouts of the election being ''stolen'' and his frequent court cases likely having been designed to get his supporters so enraged they'd go do the coup for him.

You're right that corporations donate to Democrats too. That's what I said. That the most damning thing about Democrats is that they are pro corporate. Its just that the Republicans happen to be pro corporate to a far more fanatical extend.

How was it not about Russiagate? The wiki literally links to the Russiagate wiki.

Trump's first impeachment took place after a formal House inquiry found that he had solicited foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election to help his re-election bid, and had then obstructed the inquiry itself by telling his administration officials to ignore subpoenas for documents and testimony.

First impeachment of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Russian interference in the 2020 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You think the democrats appeal to their voters based on rational arguments?

Literally section A explicitly identifies pronouns. It's even visible in the screenshotted section.

Yeah, just because it has the word "pronouns" in there doesn't mean a person can get charged with a felony by simply using a pronoun. This is what the key bill text says:

"the person is acting in his or her official capacity as a teacher or school counselor and the person provides support, regardless of whether the support is material, information, or other resources to a child regarding social transition"

How is a pronoun material, information, or other resources? Just because the word "pronoun" is used elsewhere (in the definitions part) doesn't mean using a pronoun is against the bill.

It is either a lie or someone just can't read that is saying a teacher can get a felony for merely using a pronoun.

 

[BrawlMan]

Literally no clue what you are going on about.

You've done that more than a million times already. Went off tangent or brought in things that have nothing to do with anything. So you really have no room to talk. Speaking more about yourself than anything really.

 

[Hades]

How was it not about Russiagate?

Because the foreign interference Trump hoped to get through Blackmail was Ukrainian. Not Russian. He was caught blackmailing Zelensky into intervening for him. Not Putin. You're confusing one scandal with another. Understandably given who we're talking about.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Not a funny event, but I might as well put it here, France apparently has constitutionalized (is that a word?) the right to abortion as the first country in the world. So yay, something not shit happening in politics today.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

You've done that more than a million times already. Went off tangent or brought in things that have nothing to do with anything. So you really have no room to talk. Speaking more about yourself than anything really.

No, you instantly goal posted when you replied to me and instantly went off point.

Because the foreign interference Trump hoped to get through Blackmail was Ukrainian. Not Russian. He was caught blackmailing Zelensky into intervening for him. Not Putin. You're confusing one scandal with another. Understandably given who we're talking about.

You're right, my fault.

 

[Hades]

So far right forces are trying to recreate a certain event by pretending gamers are ''rebelling'' against eeevil woke studios. I became vaguely aware of some controversy about sweet baby studio inc. I tried to find out what this was about by typing it in Youtube and I wouldn't recommend it. Pretty much all results are far right grifters with nonsensical titles in their videos.

Given who have all rallied against the studio I find it very hard to believe they did anything wrong, but since all the videos are useless I'm still not sure what exactly this is all about.

 

[Silvanus]

Yeah, just because it has the word "pronouns" in there doesn't mean a person can get charged with a felony by simply using a pronoun.

My god, this is pathetic. You said pronouns weren't involved. But it's right there in the first page.

 

[Trunkage]

So far right forces are trying to recreate a certain event by pretending gamers are ''rebelling'' against eeevil woke studios. I became vaguely aware of some controversy about sweet baby studio inc. I tried to find out what this was about by typing it in Youtube and I wouldn't recommend it. Pretty much all results are far right grifters with nonsensical titles in their videos.

Given who have all rallied against the studio I find it very hard to believe they did anything wrong, but since all the videos are useless I'm still not sure what exactly this is all about.

Just so you are aware, 'gamers' in South Korea absolutely took down a bunch of 'woke' studios and many game designers have been banned from working because they aren't making big enough boobs etc

They want to replicate this in other countries. Unfortunately for them, there is a reason why most Asian countries warn their daughters not to marry a Korean. They are so far right wing and patriarchal that they are 80% already i Handmaids Tale. This is nonsense doesn't fly even in Japan or China, who are called out for being Liberals

 

[Ag3ma]

So far right forces are trying to recreate a certain event by pretending gamers are ''rebelling'' against eeevil woke studios. I became vaguely aware of some controversy about sweet baby studio inc. I tried to find out what this was about by typing it in Youtube and I wouldn't recommend it. Pretty much all results are far right grifters with nonsensical titles in their videos.

One might argue that they are a) refusing to accept the artistic freedoms of studios and b) engaging in cancel culture by trying to attack a consultancy firm.

Because the reality is that almost no-one gives a shit about artistic freedoms and cancelling. They're just words vapidly hurled into the void whenever someone wants to attack what their opponents do despite being exactly the same tactics they'll employ themselves.

It's all part of the sad, wet, fart of performative political debate, where oh so many try to hide their grubby partisanship under dishonest appeals to values they either don't understand or respect.

 

[BrawlMan]

No, you instantly goal posted when you replied to me and instantly went off point.

Nope, you've been doing that schtick since forever ago. You really need to work on the projecting and goal posting. Talk to an actual professional instead of consulting your ego.

My god, this is pathetic. You said pronouns weren't involved. But it's right there in the first page.

Why are you surprised? It's all he ever does and forever more.

So far right forces are trying to recreate a certain event by pretending gamers are ''rebelling'' against eeevil woke studios. I became vaguely aware of some controversy about sweet baby studio inc. I tried to find out what this was about by typing it in Youtube and I wouldn't recommend it. Pretty much all results are far right grifters with nonsensical titles in their videos.

Given who have all rallied against the studio I find it very hard to believe they did anything wrong, but since all the videos are useless I'm still not sure what exactly this is all about.

Just so you are aware, 'gamers' in South Korea absolutely took down a bunch of 'woke' studios and many game designers have been banned from working because they aren't making big enough boobs etc

They want to replicate this in other countries. Unfortunately for them, there is a reason why most Asian countries warn their daughters not to marry a Korean. They are so far right wing and patriarchal that they are 80% already i Handmaids Tale. This is nonsense doesn't fly even in Japan or China, who are called out for being Liberals

One might argue that they are a) refusing to accept the artistic freedoms of studios and b) engaging in cancel culture by trying to attack a consultancy firm.

Because the reality is that almost no-one gives a shit about artistic freedoms and cancelling. They're just words vapidly hurled into the void whenever someone wants to attack what their opponents do despite being exactly the same tactics they'll employ themselves.

It's all part of the sad, wet, fart of performative political debate, where oh so many try to hide their grubby partisanship under dishonest appeals to values they either don't understand or respect.

This a video @FakeSympathy posted earlier today in the Game Articles Thread.

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My response:

I didn't know how deep this got. Granted, I vaguely heard a Sweet Baby Inc. last year. There is definitely some scumbaggery going on. I didn't even know they're involved with the second Alan Wake game, but they seem a little involved with that one, as it turned out great. Suicide Squad was doomed from the start, their involvement or not. I blame that one on mainly WB still. They're involvement just only made it more obvious. Regardless, it still doesn't excuse the people acting racist or sexist whenever someone non-white, female, or gay is a main character nor treated like a negative stereotype. That said, two wrongs don't make a right, and SBI I will keep a lookout. That said, if people enjoy these games, even though Sweet Baby is involved, it is their right to do so.

Something I noticed: other than Square enix, SB seems to only be involved with mostly big Western publishers. I didn't really see any Japanese ones on the list, aside from Square. Also, the idea of corporations going into diversity sake and not for the right thing; there's nothing new and I don't know why the guy in the video is acting like this is dome grand revelation. I know the difference between the ones that genuinely try, and those are just phoning it in for the sake of cash. It's not that hard to spot.

All said, I am playing things by ear. Skip to the 5 minute mark to hear some of the really shady shit going on over there.

 

[Cicada 5]

Black Trump Supporters Are Being AI-Generated

Trump supporters are creating and sharing photos of the former President with fake Black voters.

gizmodo.com

 

[Casual Shinji]

Black Trump Supporters Are Being AI-Generated

Trump supporters are creating and sharing photos of the former President with fake Black voters.

gizmodo.com

Are we talking actual fake black voters or just white Trump supporters in black face? I wouldn't be surprised by the latter.

 

[Ag3ma]

Black Trump Supporters Are Being AI-Generated

Trump supporters are creating and sharing photos of the former President with fake Black voters.

gizmodo.com

Welcome to the future, guys.

Just like the internet, another supposed great tool for humanity is mostly going to end up used for porn and lies.

 

[Cicada 5]

Are we talking actual fake black voters or just white Trump supporters in black face? I wouldn't be surprised by the latter.

It's fake images of Trump with black supporters.

In the leadup to the 2024 Presidential Election, several of these AI-generated dupes of Black Trump supporters have popped up on social media. One image is a holiday photo depicting Trump embracing several Black people. However, it’s an AI dupe created by The Mark Kaye Show, a conservative talk show, and distributed on Facebook to over one million of Kaye’s Facebook followers. The post from November, first reported by the BBC, was not labeled as being AI-generated in any way.

The image is obviously an AI fake. Trump’s hands look deformed, and the person on the far left is missing a ring finger. AI is notoriously bad with hands. Not to mention the gentleman’s hat in the back left is gibberish. AI-generated misinformation is a growing problem in the 2024 Presidential Election.

This is certainly not the first AI dupe of Trump’s Black supporters. One image of a Black man picketing for Donald Trump went viral on X in January, shared by a conservative pollster. However, it was quickly revealed as an AI deepfake when users noticed the man had three arms.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Well that at least provided an answer to whether they'd acknowledge the absence of paid minorities usually placed strategically behind trump's podium in recent speech.



Gaze upon the many shades of dehydrated ham you could ever imagine here, stranger. White flight white landed back at white nest with orange mother.


Though admittedly impressive for beardy face to squeeze a bit of catch-up sleep in the midst of a renaissance painting tbf.

"Just because it's the law doesn't mean they'll actually do it"



There, I've summarized the next 5 pages

last 8 or so years been same --



"Just cos they said it, dont mean they'll do it"



"hey just cos they did it, don't mean they'll make it law"



"look just cos they made it law, don't mean it'll be enforced"



"k just cos it being enforced, don't mean anyone's getting hurt"



"yeah but just cos they getting hurt don't mean they didn't deserve it"



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"ok just cos, uh..."



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"Uhh.."



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"Pedophiles and groomers, the lot of you!"

 

[Phoenixmgs]

My god, this is pathetic. You said pronouns weren't involved. But it's right there in the first page.

You can't get a felony for merely using a pronoun, which is what the Twitter post said. That is a lie.

So far right forces are trying to recreate a certain event by pretending gamers are ''rebelling'' against eeevil woke studios. I became vaguely aware of some controversy about sweet baby studio inc. I tried to find out what this was about by typing it in Youtube and I wouldn't recommend it. Pretty much all results are far right grifters with nonsensical titles in their videos.

Given who have all rallied against the studio I find it very hard to believe they did anything wrong, but since all the videos are useless I'm still not sure what exactly this is all about.

I don't really care about that part. However, why is the company trying to get the user that just created a list on Steam banned?

Nope, you've been doing that schtick since forever ago. You really need to work on the projecting and goal posting. Talk to an actual professional instead of consulting your ego.

Again, you don't know what those terms mean.

 

[Schadrach]

One might argue that they are a) refusing to accept the artistic freedoms of studios and b) engaging in cancel culture by trying to attack a consultancy firm.

Because the reality is that almost no-one gives a shit about artistic freedoms and cancelling. They're just words vapidly hurled into the void whenever someone wants to attack what their opponents do despite being exactly the same tactics they'll employ themselves.

It's all part of the sad, wet, fart of performative political debate, where oh so many try to hide their grubby partisanship under dishonest appeals to values they either don't understand or respect.

I mean in this case you have two sides:

One side wants to boycott works that employ Sweet Baby Inc and created a Steam Curator that tags games as Not Recommended and notes that they used Sweet Baby Inc. It currently lists a total of 16 games.

The other side is Sweet Baby Inc, who wants the Steam curator and the Steam account of it's creator both banned for daring to catalog games they were involved with and is apparently unaware of the Streisand effect.

It's hard to argue the first group is refusing to accept the artistic freedoms of studios, when what they're doing is informing interested consumers which works use a certain consulting firm. Not buying products made by studios that hire a specific consulting firm is not refusing to accept studios freedom to hire them. No one is owed you being their customer.

I think the big distinction is that the folks on "the other side" accused of refusing to accept the artistic freedoms of studios have a tendency to build harassment campaigns to demand that the work be changed instead of just deciding it's not for them and voting with their wallet, or even informing others as to why. I'll point to Divinity: Original Sin as an example, where the original promo art featured an exposed midriff on the female character and led to threats against the studio until they changed it. That's an entirely different sort of thing than creating a list of "exposed midriff games" that people can choose to subscribe to (or not) to inform their choices.