Movie, TV, Web Series, and Music Hot Take(s).

[BrawlMan]

Double toasted review is solid but if you haven't watched it I might skip it they spoil a couple big reveals that were pretty awesome in theaters.

I watched their review after seeing the movie. I posted it during my review in the Last Film Thread. I kept myself complete in the dark for New Empire. No trailers, aside from the first two, no TV spots, no news, nada. The movie is a 10/10, S fucking-Rank movie! Korey likes the movie, Martin gave it a rental, and I am not shocked by either. Martin can be wishy-washy with his reviews and nitpick over the dumbest things at times.

 

[Piscian]

I watched their review after seeing the movie. I posted it during my review in the Last Film Thread. I kept myself complete in the dark for New Empire. No trailers, aside from the first two, no TV spots, no news, nada. The movie is a 10/10, S fucking-Rank movie! Korey likes the movie, Martin gave it a rental, and I am not shocked by other. Martin can be wishy-washy with his reviews and nitpick over the dumbest things at times.

oh I didn't see your review. Ill go read it yeah honestly as Im watching double toasted Im leaning towards a 10/10 I just really had a blast with this one. I have really bad ADHD and OCD and I was wonderfully invested in this one. So much "fun".

 

[BrawlMan]

Sterling has a big point there.

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[hanselthecaretaker2]

No, he wasn’t. After seeing all of Curb it’s clear Larry David was IMO responsible for most of Seinfeld’s success.

 

[Xprimentyl]

No, he wasn’t. After seeing all of Curb it’s clear Larry David was IMO responsible for most of Seinfeld’s success.

Jerry gets credit for being in the game long enough and has gained enough fame for it that he garners "respect" laughs if not "that was genuinely funny" ones. I've never found him to be an exceptional comedian (except his joke about the silver medal at the Olympics; it's fucking brilliant,) but all I've see is a few stand-ups; never seen an episode of his show, and I think I made it through the first 3-4 episodes of Curb 15 years ago before deciding it wasn't for me.

I've thought about trying Curb again more recently though. My sense of humor has evolved over the years; I've come to appreciate subtlety and nuance, and dry humor has grown on me as I've gotten more cynical.

 

[Gordon_4]

No, he wasn’t. After seeing all of Curb it’s clear Larry David was IMO responsible for most of Seinfeld’s success.

I’ve watched an episode or three of Seinfeld and Curb over the years and I’m wondering if I just lack some kind of comedy enzyme because both projects left me cold. Like I think I understand the underlying concept of both shows but I’m just not handshaking with them.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

The vast majority of the Godzilla movies are somewhere between mediocre and bad, and none of them live up to how sweet the art for them is.

This looks like the sickest shit ever:



but the movie is mid.

 

[hanselthecaretaker2]

I’ve watched an episode or three of Seinfeld and Curb over the years and I’m wondering if I just lack some kind of comedy enzyme because both projects left me cold. Like I think I understand the underlying concept of both shows but I’m just not handshaking with them.

I could never get into Seinfeld myself. It feels like it tries too hard and ends up feeling stressful listening to the characters (which are described as neurotic) blabber on. Curb has some of that for sure, but its structure is what helps separate it from pretty much anything else out there. No set, no loathsome laughtrack. It’s an often cringy and self-deprecating, cynical, mostly improv’d look into Larry David’s pseudo life. The best part about it imo is it invites the viewer for a front row seat inside his head, and while there’s an intended punchline at the end, how the show gets there is anyone’s guess because it feels like it plays out naturally.

 

[Kyrian007]

I’ve watched an episode or three of Seinfeld and Curb over the years and I’m wondering if I just lack some kind of comedy enzyme because both projects left me cold. Like I think I understand the underlying concept of both shows but I’m just not handshaking with them.

No, it's not just you. I never found either show that funny either. For me it seems to be the format. I also never liked most sitcoms. Never got into or liked The Office, Parks and Rec., Seinfeld, Friends, My Name is Earl, Big Bang Theory, Reno 911... most of them really. Kind of enjoyed Scrubs at one point, liked Cheers and Night Court back when I was a kid, but neither hold up as I aged. Really for sitcoms I liked, only M*A*S*H holds up. Guess I just prefer my comedy animated like The Simpsons or Archer, or blended into a drama or sci-fi show.

 

[BrawlMan]

Reno 911..

Reno is legit funny. I know it didn't work for some people, but that show was really straightforward its comedy. I'm not watching the revival series, but that's a show I enjoyed pretty much every season. The rest of the shows you mentioned, I either found boring or only saw the funniest parts through youtube and memes. Seinfeld could be funny at times, but it's a case of old hat. There are so many comedies that took its writing style and amplified it, or did it even better.

 

[BrawlMan]

I discovered and know why I love isekai like El Hazard: The Magnificent World, Monster Rancher, Digimon Adventure (even 02, Tamers [when they go to the digital world in the second half], and Frontiers) so much. They have something many modern isekai lack: a sense of actual wonder, discovery, and most importantly, the adventure itself. Many isekai today are just too corporate driven and copies of a copy, copying another copy that's ultra derivative. Nearly everything else feels flat, all glitter, no soul, or is just another lame and cardboard cut out harem with nothing else going on. I'm watching El Hazard: Wanderers right now on YouTube (I just ordered the blu ray on Crunchy roll for $25), and even it still carries those three important aspects I listed, even though the anime is on a cheaper budget.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Aliens and their robots need to stop blowing smoke up our arses, for crying out loud. Is like near enough every film, game - or book whatever the hell those are - with an alien/robot ally, or heel-turn to ally, has them delivering their philosophical justification with variations of the same message:

"We've/I've witnessed/colonised/killed so many other species across the universe, but there's something so vewy special weshhel about you humans. Yes, there's bad lots of bad no denying that, especially those, what you call 'commies' and 'athiests' ...yet....there's something good in you somewhere still, isn't there? - I/we can sense it!"

Now hold the fucking phone right there, intergalactic Casanova! Assuming you don't say that to all the species.is it too much to ask for a list of these other civilizations and where they differ from us so we can triangulate what the fuck you're yapping on about first?? Is it art? Has no other species done art? Is it late stage capitalism? Quit doming and show some bloody receipts, am going out of my mind here.

 

[Gordon_4]

Aliens and their robots need to stop blowing smoke up our arses, for crying out loud. Is like near enough every film, game - or book whatever the hell those are - with an alien/robot ally, or heel-turn to ally, has them delivering their philosophical justification with variations of the same message:

"We've/I've witnessed/colonised/killed so many other species across the universe, but there's something so vewy special weshhel about you humans. Yes, there's bad lots of bad no denying that, especially those, what you call 'commies' and 'athiests' ...yet....there's something good in you somewhere still, isn't there? - I/we can sense it!"

Now hold the fucking phone right there, intergalactic Casanova! Assuming you don't say that to all the species.is it too much to ask for a list of these other civilizations and where they differ from us so we can triangulate what the fuck you're yapping on about first?? Is it art? Has no other species done art? Is it late stage capitalism? Quit doming and show some bloody receipts, am going out of my mind here.

It’s called creator provincialism and it’s an almost inescapable trope in speculative fiction that involves aliens or non-human sapients.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

When are they going to make a movie about the Jan 6 riots and who's gonna play the shaman dude?

 

[BrawlMan]

When are they going to make a movie about the Jan 6 riots and who's gonna play the shaman dude?

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[Thaluikhain]

Not going to say this is the best alien invasion, but I'd say it's one of the best alien invasions when you've only got money for 4 extras with no lines and 6 or so monster costumes.

(Unfortunately the end of Star One from Blake's7 seems not to be on youtube, that's another good really low budget invasion)

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

Yes Jerry Seinfield was funny.

Look- I know he's a douchenozzle now. And maybe his style of comedy hasn't aged as well- I mean he was a stand-up in the 80's, and I can't explain to you younguns what it was like in those days, at the peak of the stand-up boom.

But this trend where folks go back to claim they never really liked someone who was great because they're now an asshole is really annoying. Someone tried to tell me that Kevin Spacey wasn't that good an actor and I was like lol shut-up. We don't wanna believe that someone can be good at something and also a jerk, a moron, or even a criminal?

I dunno maybe it's because the form of art/entertainment I'm most passionate about is music and like pretty much all of my musical heroes were, unfortunately, garbage human beings, that I'm sort of used to this dichotomy. Once I learned about the lives of James Brown, Miles Davis, and Charlie Parker, it became easy to reconcile these things.

Yes, Seinfield's stand-up was good. It's one of those things where "oh all he did was talk about mundane things" but he did it well, it was original enough, and it has broad appeal. It's the comedy equivalent of a Dua Lipa song- it's weird to HATE it, but it's not gonna be most people's most favorite music of all time. It's broadly nice and comfortable and if you sneer at that you're not as cool as you think it is.

Sure the sitcom doesn't hold so well now but honestly what sitcom does? Ok, I guess the Simpsons, and that is one reason it's the single greatest comedy show every made IMO. But all of the greats- Friends, All in the Family, I Love Lucy, the Honeymooners, heck even the Office- go back and watch some of those episodes, you will cringe sometimes.

Of course Larry David was a primary reason for this. No one denies this, including Seinfield! The show was a partnership. It's really dumb to take something that was wildly successful and declare it would still have been great without one of the main contributors. "Seinfield {the person) didn't have anything to do with Sienfield's (the show) success" is one of those things that now people say to sound clever but it's so fucking dumb based on just the obvious logic and how words work that it's infuriating.

And yes, he's become increasingly a dumbass and yes it's gross he started dating his current wife when he was 35 and she was 18 and yes he can shove his anti-woke garbage up his out-of-touch smug asshole. All these things can simultaneously be true.

 

[BrawlMan]

Yes Jerry Seinfield was funny.

Look- I know he's a douchenozzle now. And maybe his style of comedy hasn't aged as well- I mean he was a stand-up in the 80's, and I can't explain to you younguns what it was like in those days, at the peak of the stand-up boom.

But this trend where folks go back to claim they never really liked someone who was great because they're now an asshole is really annoying. Someone tried to tell me that Kevin Spacey wasn't that good an actor and I was like lol shut-up. We don't wanna believe that someone can be good at something and also a jerk, a moron, or even a criminal?

I dunno maybe it's because the form of art/entertainment I'm most passionate about is music and like pretty much all of my musical heroes were, unfortunately, garbage human beings, that I'm sort of used to this dichotomy. Once I learned about the lives of James Brown, Miles Davis, and Charlie Parker, it became easy to reconcile these things.

Yes, Seinfield's stand-up was good. It's one of those things where "oh all he did was talk about mundane things" but he did it well, it was original enough, and it has broad appeal. It's the comedy equivalent of a Dua Lipa song- it's weird to HATE it, but it's not gonna be most people's most favorite music of all time. It's broadly nice and comfortable and if you sneer at that you're not as cool as you think it is.

Sure the sitcom doesn't hold so well now but honestly what sitcom does? Ok, I guess the Simpsons, and that is one reason it's the single greatest comedy show every made IMO. But all of the greats- Friends, All in the Family, I Love Lucy, the Honeymooners, heck even the Office- go back and watch some of those episodes, you will cringe sometimes.

Of course Larry David was a primary reason for this. No one denies this, including Seinfield! The show was a partnership. It's really dumb to take something that was wildly successful and declare it would still have been great without one of the main contributors. "Seinfield {the person) didn't have anything to do with Sienfield's (the show) success" is one of those things that now people say to sound clever but it's so fucking dumb based on just the obvious logic and how words work that it's infuriating.

And yes, he's become increasingly a dumbass and yes it's gross he started dating his current wife when he was 35 and she was 18 and yes he can shove his anti-woke garbage up his out-of-touch smug asshole. All these things can simultaneously be true.

I don't deny Seinfeld was and is funny, but his humor didn't do it for me much. I admit I watched and cared more sitcoms such as Family Matters, Fresh Prince, Living Single, Boy Meets World, Save by the Bell, Step by Step, and Married with Children than Seinfeld.

And yes, he's become increasingly a dumbass and yes it's gross he started dating his current wife when he was 35 and she was 18 and yes he can shove his anti-woke garbage up his out-of-touch smug asshole. All these things can simultaneously be true.

Agreed.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

I don't deny Seinfeld was and is funny, but his humor didn't do it for me much. I admit I watched and cared more sitcoms such as Family Matters, Fresh Prince, Living Single, Boy Meets World, Save by the Bell, Step by Step, and Married with Children than Seinfeld.

Just to clarify a minor point- I don't think Seinfield IS funny, I think he WAS funny. This is answering the question earlier of "was he ever funny?"

Here's my maybe not-so-hot take: there are no famous comedians over 40 who are funny. They're all so sensitive about criticism and being out of touch that it's impacted their ability to discern humor from privilege. All of my favorite comedians from years ago have become insufferable. This list includes, besides Jerry Seinfield:

Chris Rock, Bill Maher, Dave Chappelle, Bill Burr, Louis C.K, and Ricky Gervais. I used to idolize these people. I still think in their glory days they were amazing (Gervais less his stand-up and more his scripted shows).

Chris Rock may have been the comedy thing my friends and I quoted to each other almost as much as the Simpsons. I considered Louis C.K. as important as artist to me as Christopher Nolan, Rush, or Hideteak Miyazaki. I literally stayed up all night to audition for Bill Maher's first talk show "citizen panel" (I made it to the last round and met him!)

But now? Fuck these guys. They announce a special and I'm like UGH SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.

 

[BrawlMan]

Chris Rock,

At least Chris Rock and Katt Williams still try and can handle criticism. Chris Rock especially.

Bill Maher, Dave Chappelle, Bill Burr, Louis C.K, and Ricky Gervais.

They're all bitches in box stands; especially Maher. Bill Maher I always disliked and he's the guy willing to do anything for quick paycheck, then insult all under the same breathe. You shit on Stan Lee and all comic book fans as soon as the man dies, but was more than happy to appear in at least two different MCU movies back in the late 2000s. Fuck you Maher! Fuck you and let Fleming consume your flesh in hell!

I used to idolize these people.

That was your first mistake. As much as I like Chris Rock and a very few other comedians, I never treated them as infallible nor gods that blessed all the grass they walked on.

But now? Fuck these guys. They announce a special and I'm like UGH SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.

Rock doesn't announce that many specials. Chappelle ad Netflix on the other hand? Yes, but I put them all on ignore and avoid them for something better.