US 2024 Presidential Election

[gorfias]

If the GOP keeps the US House, should we do a 2024 US election post mortem thread?

The GOP took the White House, Senate, keep a majority of Governors' offices and may keep the House.

One really bad outcome of 2016 from a right wing perspective was that the left seemed to contemplate for a day, why it was that a political novice with relatively little campaign cash and the hostility of the MSM beat their establishment candidate with buckets of cash and an establishment propping her up. They seem to have decided they just didn't smear him enough, needed way more censorship, and authoritarianism rather than actually looking at how they were governing and the future they were offering the US.

In 2024, they found out even all of that didn't work (He raised about $350 mil., her, over a billion with some 97% negative MSM coverage of him, 97% positive of her).

 

[tstorm823]

In 2024, they found out even all of that didn't work (He raised about $350 mil., her, over a billion with some 97% negative MSM coverage of him, 97% positive of her).

This is my favorite aspect of the win by a mile. The mainstream media, social media, and all 3 branches of government all worked in concert to try to tell people to hate this man, and the majority of people said no. That is an actual victory for democracy.

 

[Seanchaidh]

This is my favorite aspect of the win by a mile. The mainstream media, social media, and all 3 branches of government all worked in concert to try to tell people to hate this man, and the majority of people said no. That is an actual victory for democracy.

72 million is nowhere near a majority. in fact, the election seemed to turn on disgust at Harris.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

This is my favorite aspect of the win by a mile. The mainstream media, social media, and all 3 branches of government all worked in concert to try to tell people to hate this man, and the majority of people said no. That is an actual victory for democracy.

And now the government can get down to its rightful business: Hating all the people you hate.

 

[Silvanus]

The mainstream media

The most widely-watched media corporation in America is not mainstream, apparently.

 

[Silvanus]

House speaker confirms the Alaskan wilderness reserve and other land currently under federal protection will be opened up for drilling.

 

[tstorm823]

72 million is nowhere near a majority. in fact, the election seemed to turn on disgust at Harris.

When you reference the majority in a poll, you are referring to those polled, not the entire population of the country.

The voting isn't finished, there are still like 10 million more votes to count.

The most widely-watched media corporation in America is not mainstream, apparently.

The most widely-watched cable news channel is not the trophy you think it is. Fox News can get a couple million viewers total across their primetime lineup. The View gets that many people on its own at 11 am. SNL can pull double that all at once. The NYT has 11 million paid subscribers. 30 million people listen to NPR weekly. The Daily Show's youtube channel gets millions of views per video posted...

Fox being the most watched cable news is just indicative that people don't watch cable news. Congratulations.

 

[Thaluikhain]

The most widely-watched media corporation in America is not mainstream, apparently.

Nothing more conventional than claiming to be maverick.

 

[Casual Shinji]

The most widely-watched media corporation in America is not mainstream, apparently.

And Trump and Musk are standing up for the working class and fighting against the Elite.

 

[Seanchaidh]

When you reference the majority in a poll, you are referring to those polled, not the entire population of the country.

The voting isn't finished, there are still like 10 million more votes to count.

is it actually a majority of votes cast or just a plurality? a lot of people left their ballots blank for President, after all.

 

[tstorm823]

is it actually a majority of votes cast or just a plurality? a lot of people left their ballots blank for President, after all.

Currently, by available numbers, a majority.

 

[Ezekiel]

Speaking more on the failure of Build Back Better, the idiocy of voting for the more corporate-friendly one without the other, which made me predict Trump's return three years ago, my mother could really use that dental expansion to Medicare that was in there now. Dental bridge broke down and it's 50,000 to repair. She's trying to work out the trip abroad for it. Of course, better than taking care of such a huge insurance bill would be to make the industry public and bring down prices. But trillion every year on the military? Israel? Ukraine? No problem. They probably didn't want to give people those programs anyway. Manchin and Sinema are just excuses, could have had their arms twisted. They don't want to give the peasants anything because then they will just want more. Better for people to be destitute. Sick. In dept. Struggling.

 

[Seanchaidh]

Currently, by available numbers, a majority.

wonder if that's including the blanks. doesn't matter too much either way, I suppose.

 

[Schadrach]

Manchin

Don't worry, we also replaced our shitty part-time Governor by promoting him to be a shitty part-time Senator. Give it a week before he tries to bring Babydog to the Senate floor.

 

[gorfias]

This is my favorite aspect of the win by a mile. The mainstream media, social media, and all 3 branches of government all worked in concert to try to tell people to hate this man, and the majority of people said no. That is an actual victory for democracy.

I really think we need a whole new fresh thread to do a lessons learned. Would it be inappropriate of me to start one?
I'd include videos like this:

 

[tippy2k2]

My God, Stein is looking to pull in less than 1 million votes nationwide.

This is the part of the election that has me the most disheartened. With all the noise about wanting to stick it to The Democrats for their role in the genocide, I was really hoping for a swell of support for Green. I'd never be so blind to think they'd actually win but that 5% number for Federal Funding felt like it might actually be in play for once with so many flat out rejecting The Democrats.

Unfortunately it seems like apathy was the name of the game for the vast majority of people yet again...

 

[Thaluikhain]

This is the part of the election that has me the most disheartened. With all the noise about wanting to stick it to The Democrats for their role in the genocide, I was really hoping for a swell of support for Green. I'd never be so blind to think they'd actually win but that 5% number for Federal Funding felt like it might actually be in play for once with so many flat out rejecting The Democrats.

Unfortunately it seems like apathy was the name of the game for the vast majority of people yet again...

In fairness, making it hard to vote also probably played a part. But yeah, if you aren't going to vote Dems, it's not much of a protest vote unless you vote for 3rd party.

 

[tippy2k2]

In fairness, making it hard to vote also probably played a part. But yeah, if you aren't going to vote Dems, it's not much of a protest vote unless you vote for 3rd party.

Agreed. This honestly felt like the best chance a Third Party was ever going to have to get even a fraction of a foot in the door to our fucked up shit hole country electoral setup and it was completely wasted.

It seems like the only potential hope there is for change is for Democrats to pull their heads out their asses and actually be the left wing of the country but I expect that's as likely as Tippy sprouting actual wings and flying around like an idiot for a few minutes before I inevitably collide with a power line.

 

[Thaluikhain]

It seems like the only potential hope there is for change is for Democrats to pull their heads out their asses and actually be the left wing of the country but I expect that's as likely as Tippy sprouting actual wings and flying around like an idiot for a few minutes before I inevitably collide with a power line.

And then to be free and fair elections next time around. Trump was talking about not having that last time, and his lot tried a coup when they lost, of course.

I mean, yeah, people have been saying "This election is the big one" for quite a few cycles, but I think this one (or maybe his first election) actually was.

 

[Silvanus]

And then to be free and fair elections next time around. Trump was talking about not having that last time, and his lot tried a coup when they lost, of course.

Ecologically speaking, there also has to be something left to protect. In four years it could be too late for those protected reserve lands (for example).

Last time, the Trump admin stated it wanted to expand the drilling area in the Arctic reserve from 2k to over a million acres. That would have made a lot of it utterly unrecoverable. They had to back down due to public and political opposition. This time?